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BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
May 25 2012 10:14 GMT
#661
imo losing the first 2 banshee was enough damage to make the 1-1-1 fail
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
May 25 2012 10:14 GMT
#662
Also on a side note, can't wait for the GSTL to start
The curse is real
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 10:15:21
May 25 2012 10:14 GMT
#663
On May 25 2012 19:13 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:11 avilo wrote:
I don't think people realize even with the tanks sieged ACE would have crushed that. 1/1/1 is terrible nowadays.


Tell that to MVP :D

All we can really take from this game is that MMA is still trash against Protoss compared to his vZ and vT


The only 1/1/1 I can remember that Mvp used recently was in the semi-finals against parting. And while it well executed Parting defended it horribly, Ohana is also way better than Dual Sight for it with the one choke leading into the nat and no real ability to flank without killing the rocks.

On May 25 2012 19:14 Tobblish wrote:
Also on a side note, can't wait for the GSTL to start


Same I can't wait for GSTL, first time buying the pass for the team league for me. Whirlwind looks like an awesome map and hopefully we get epic games on it.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
May 25 2012 10:15 GMT
#664
On May 25 2012 19:14 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:10 Serinox wrote:
Ugh, MMA why do u donate a win to AcE? Oh god, the thought of AcE getting to Code S....frightening....


AcE is pretty underrated imo. He does well in many tournaments but is just overlooked because so many other Koreans also do well. He's been a consistent GSL player, just not at a Code S level, since the early seasons. Maybe he's put a lot of work into his play


What he showed this season was pathetic. He shouldn't even have won the series against JookTo, but somehow the zerg managed to screw up even more.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
May 25 2012 10:15 GMT
#665
This abusive play on timings is so goooooood RTS.

So looking fwd to some more RTS being released to get my hands on. Dont get me wrong Sc2 is ok, but it is no-where near what I would call a complete RTS.

User was warned for this post
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
May 25 2012 10:15 GMT
#666
On May 25 2012 19:13 Waxangel wrote:
even if MMA loses here, Iron Squid gives GSL a very conveninent way to seed him


Am I the only one that thinks you shouldn't be able to get a Code S seed after losing in Code A and the Up and Downs of the same season?
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
May 25 2012 10:15 GMT
#667
On May 25 2012 19:09 Neelia wrote:
have fun in Code A MMA

he's not in code a

do you not know format?
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
May 25 2012 10:15 GMT
#668
On May 25 2012 19:13 Waxangel wrote:
even if MMA loses here, Iron Squid gives GSL a very conveninent way to seed him


I also think, that MMA and MKP might have their Code S spot secured, due to their foreign tournament results lately (MKP getting 1st,1st and 2nd @ MLG, MMA with Iron Squid Stars Wars Qualifier win), not speaking, that they are both very popular players. But I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the seeds go to thorzain and stephano. So only time will tell...
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#669
On May 25 2012 19:15 Parcelleus wrote:
This abusive play on timings is so goooooood RTS.

So looking fwd to some more RTS being released to get my hands on. Dont get me wrong Sc2 is ok, but it is no-where near what I would call a complete RTS.

i would call it the most complete after bw
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#670
On May 25 2012 19:13 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:11 avilo wrote:
I don't think people realize even with the tanks sieged ACE would have crushed that. 1/1/1 is terrible nowadays.


Tell that to MVP :D

All we can really take from this game is that MMA is still trash against Protoss compared to his vZ and vT


His vT isn't that great anymore either. It can be good, but he also has terrible games vT as well.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#671
On May 25 2012 19:15 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:13 Waxangel wrote:
even if MMA loses here, Iron Squid gives GSL a very conveninent way to seed him


Am I the only one that thinks you shouldn't be able to get a Code S seed after losing in Code A and the Up and Downs of the same season?

i think polt got it last time? except he was wholly knocked out
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Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 10:16:44
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#672
On May 25 2012 19:14 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:13 Figgy wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:11 avilo wrote:
I don't think people realize even with the tanks sieged ACE would have crushed that. 1/1/1 is terrible nowadays.


Tell that to MVP :D

All we can really take from this game is that MMA is still trash against Protoss compared to his vZ and vT


The only 1/1/1 I can remember that Mvp used recently was in the semi-finals against parting. And while it well executed Parting defended it horribly, Ohana is also way better than Dual Sight for it with the one choke leading into the nat and no real ability to flank without killing the rocks.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:14 Tobblish wrote:
Also on a side note, can't wait for the GSTL to start


Same I can't wait for GSTL, first time buying the pass for the team league for me. Whirlwind looks like an awesome map and hopefully we get epic games on it.



IMO, the most important part in that game was that MVP managed to gain control of the watchtower, which gives a way stronger position than anywhere on Dual Sight for a 1/1/1.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#673
On May 25 2012 19:11 rushian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:10 Dwelf wrote:
How many slayers players are in code S? Somehow I can't think of anyone.

ryung, yugioh

There was a time where they had so many players in Code S! Thanks EG curse
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 10:17:11
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#674
On May 25 2012 19:14 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:10 Serinox wrote:
Ugh, MMA why do u donate a win to AcE? Oh god, the thought of AcE getting to Code S....frightening....


AcE is pretty underrated imo. He does well in many tournaments but is just overlooked because so many other Koreans also do well. He's been a consistent GSL player, just not at a Code S level, since the early seasons. Maybe he's put a lot of work into his play


2 unknown players named parting and squirtle are most likely helping him as well.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#675
On May 25 2012 19:14 Ange777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:13 Logros wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:11 marcesr wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:08 Nibbler89 wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:07 Logros wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:06 Fabozi wrote:
i thought 1/1/1 was not effective anymore. guess i was wrong

It still wins almost every time but it's not used very often.

Yeah as ace just showed you need top notch control and multitask to hold 1-1-1.


Not really, Ace is leagues below MMA in multitasking and micro and he still holds. Do you really think Koreans wouldnt use 1-1-1 more often if it would still work most of the times in tournaments and practice? It can still sometimes work because it has become so rare but as a Protoss you really have to screw up or be really unlucky to NOT hold a 1-1-1.

MMA played it out pretty badly. Just look at Hearts 1-1-1's to see how dangerous it can be.


Well you have to admit that Killer defended Heart's 1-1-1 poorly compared to Ace ...

Heart has used it a ton in the last few MLGs he played as well against better players than Ace.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#676
On May 25 2012 19:15 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:13 Waxangel wrote:
even if MMA loses here, Iron Squid gives GSL a very conveninent way to seed him


Am I the only one that thinks you shouldn't be able to get a Code S seed after losing in Code A and the Up and Downs of the same season?


U&D are not even finished yet. Let's wait for the remaining games to see MMA's performance.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#677
On May 25 2012 19:10 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 18:53 Porcelina wrote:
Is it wrong that, as a Protoss player myself, I do enjoy seeing Protoss players who cannot defeat a 1/1/1 at this point lose miserably to it?


Also, when Terran players go for a 1/1/1, pull ahead and fail miserably, I enjoy watching them lose.

Players playing bad losing? I am alright with that. Well, really want MMA to advance, but having to earn it is fine.

Actually, I'm with you on both counts... I'm especially shocked, when it is THE MOST PREDICTABLE THING. When was the last time we didn't see a 1/1/1 in TvP on Dual Sight? What could the meaning of a bunker on top of the main base ramp mean?

Newsflash Killer: It means DO NOT take a 3rd.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#678
On May 25 2012 19:15 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:13 Waxangel wrote:
even if MMA loses here, Iron Squid gives GSL a very conveninent way to seed him


Am I the only one that thinks you shouldn't be able to get a Code S seed after losing in Code A and the Up and Downs of the same season?


Has the GSL ever seeded someone into Code S while they were still in Code A? I cannot think of that happening, though without actually checking it I cannot be 100% sure.

Seems very unlikely indeed however.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
May 25 2012 10:16 GMT
#679
On May 25 2012 19:13 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:11 marcesr wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:08 Nibbler89 wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:07 Logros wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:06 Fabozi wrote:
i thought 1/1/1 was not effective anymore. guess i was wrong

It still wins almost every time but it's not used very often.

Yeah as ace just showed you need top notch control and multitask to hold 1-1-1.


Not really, Ace is leagues below MMA in multitasking and micro and he still holds. Do you really think Koreans wouldnt use 1-1-1 more often if it would still work most of the times in tournaments and practice? It can still sometimes work because it has become so rare but as a Protoss you really have to screw up or be really unlucky to NOT hold a 1-1-1.

MMA played it out pretty badly. Just look at Hearts 1-1-1's to see how dangerous it can be.

Yeah just force toss to make third nexus, cancel then put up 3gates late and be floating600 minerals when push comes, not target fire tanks with immortals, trade stalkers for a few scvs and it can be incredibly deadly.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 25 2012 10:17 GMT
#680
On May 25 2012 19:16 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:15 Parcelleus wrote:
This abusive play on timings is so goooooood RTS.

So looking fwd to some more RTS being released to get my hands on. Dont get me wrong Sc2 is ok, but it is no-where near what I would call a complete RTS.

i would call it the most complete after bw


Even though SC2 is flawed in a lot of ways, it's a masterpiece of competitive play compared to every single other RTS that has been released in the last 5 years.
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