EPT[Up/Down] Group B 2012 GSL Season 3 - Page 39
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
Today is a good day to be a revolutionary. | ||
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Thobrik
Sweden1120 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:49 roymarthyup wrote: I said it the moment i saw seeker missile buffed to move faster the vikings/corrupters that its pretty overpowered and will lead to stupid gameplay seeker missiles do too much damage and actually RUN FASTER than vikings and once launched its actually impossible for the viking to avoid it and it does massive damage in a aoe to all the clumped air the seeker missiles didnt have an effect on that game and maru woulda won regarldess, but we saw how retarded that is.1spellcasted kills like 10 vikings a piece. just too good the real imba of seeker missile is once terrans start getting it against zerg trust me its going to be BRUTAL. seeker missiles are like stronger versions of storm and outrun corrupters/broodlords and are undodgable Pfft, Seeker missiles aint shit compared to irradiate and pro's in bw handled that fine. People just arent used to cloning their vikings properly and picking out the one that's being followed. | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:48 BlindKill wrote: What I dont get is, marines could of shut that down so many times..... should make some rather than the hellions The only marines he would've been able to transition into were non-stim, non-shield, 0/0 marines. Without medivac support. That is not enough against the battlecruisers (not even enough against 3/3 vikings). Maru reacted to a mech build, against bio this doesn't work. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:48 1ManArmy wrote: I remember someone did this in MLG once.. i believe it was the same MLG where rain/boxer played that amazing air-battle. It's not as though they specifically have to find the viking that's targeted, just box the top and bottom half of the cluster and move them away. More difficult in practice of course with other stuff going on but they are progamers. | ||
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trwkling
658 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:49 roymarthyup wrote: I said it the moment i saw seeker missile buffed to move faster the vikings/corrupters that its pretty overpowered and will lead to stupid gameplay seeker missiles do too much damage and actually RUN FASTER than vikings and once launched its actually impossible for the viking to avoid it and it does massive damage in a aoe to all the clumped air the seeker missiles didnt have an effect on that game and maru woulda won regarldess, but we saw how retarded that is.1spellcasted kills like 10 vikings a piece. just too good the real imba of seeker missile is once terrans start getting it against zerg trust me its going to be BRUTAL. seeker missiles are like stronger versions of storm and outrun corrupters/broodlords and are undodgable but he could've split though yeah? i mean its just like fungal? if you split against it its fine? and it has such a short cast range you can snipe it before it gets casted | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:49 roymarthyup wrote: I said it the moment i saw seeker missile buffed to move faster the vikings/corrupters that its pretty overpowered and will lead to stupid gameplay seeker missiles do too much damage and actually RUN FASTER than vikings and once launched its actually impossible for the viking to avoid it and it does massive damage in a aoe to all the clumped air the seeker missiles didnt have an effect on that game and maru woulda won regarldess, but we saw how retarded that is.1spellcasted kills like 10 vikings a piece. just too good the real imba of seeker missile is once terrans start getting it against zerg trust me its going to be BRUTAL. seeker missiles are like stronger versions of storm and outrun corrupters/broodlords and are undodgable split the targeted viking away from the rest, you do it with irradiate in sc1 so why not here? | ||
KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
I remember multiple games in MLGs last year, in particular TvT, where sky Terran was used. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:49 roymarthyup wrote: I said it the moment i saw seeker missile buffed to move faster the vikings/corrupters that its pretty overpowered and will lead to stupid gameplay seeker missiles do too much damage and actually RUN FASTER than vikings and once launched its actually impossible for the viking to avoid it and it does massive damage in a aoe to all the clumped air the seeker missiles didnt have an effect on that game and maru woulda won regarldess, but we saw how retarded that is.1spellcasted kills like 10 vikings a piece. just too good the real imba of seeker missile is once terrans start getting it against zerg trust me its going to be BRUTAL. seeker missiles are like stronger versions of storm and outrun corrupters/broodlords and are undodgable You can see which units it targeted and just split that unit from your group, doesn't sound imba to me. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
Just because MVP tried to save the game from the 5 sec GG battles it doesn't mean that it's the norm, it takes metropolis and being an artist for TvP to look good ( or MKP/Jjakji's micro, still pretty rare) | ||
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Season
United States301 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:49 roymarthyup wrote: I said it the moment i saw seeker missile buffed to move faster the vikings/corrupters that its pretty overpowered and will lead to stupid gameplay seeker missiles do too much damage and actually RUN FASTER than vikings and once launched its actually impossible for the viking to avoid it and it does massive damage in a aoe to all the clumped air the seeker missiles didnt have an effect on that game and maru woulda won regarldess, but we saw how retarded that is.1spellcasted kills like 10 vikings a piece. just too good the real imba of seeker missile is once terrans start getting it against zerg trust me its going to be BRUTAL. seeker missiles are like stronger versions of storm and outrun corrupters/broodlords and are undodgable Yes but it's DODGEABLE! If there was a problem with SC2 it would be people complaining about things like this and Blizz just removing them altogether.. Instead of having to figure out ways to micro against it in battle | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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qazadex
Australia473 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:49 roymarthyup wrote: I said it the moment i saw seeker missile buffed to move faster the vikings/corrupters that its pretty overpowered and will lead to stupid gameplay seeker missiles do too much damage and actually RUN FASTER than vikings and once launched its actually impossible for the viking to avoid it and it does massive damage in a aoe to all the clumped air the seeker missiles didnt have an effect on that game and maru woulda won regarldess, but we saw how retarded that is.1spellcasted kills like 10 vikings a piece. just too good the real imba of seeker missile is once terrans start getting it against zerg trust me its going to be BRUTAL. seeker missiles are like stronger versions of storm and outrun corrupters/broodlords and are undodgable Seeker missile did damage in a game! HSM imba! | ||
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:51 NasD wrote: Yes but it's DODGEABLE! If there was a problem with SC2 it would be people complaining about things like this and Blizz just removing them altogether.. Instead of having to figure out ways to micro against it in battle On May 22 2012 19:49 Asha` wrote: Just a weakness on aLive's part, it's pretty common for other players to split things up on the rare occasions where seeker missiles really get involved. splitting vikings against seeker missile is almost a bad idea because the missile moves SO FAST and if you split your vikings (like splitting marines against banelings) what happens if your vikings TURN and when the vikings TURN SLIGHTLY it causes them to move slower than the seeker missile for a split second and in that split second your clump of vikings all die try to go into a unit tester and micro clumped vikings vs seeker missile its pretty impossible and just stupid. no spell should be that strong is really is an imbalance but thank god terrans havent discovered it yet against zerg.. protoss however destroys HSM with feedback thank god TvT's end before super lategame because if they didnt you would essentially see mass raven vs mass raven every game and pretty much stupid engagements where whoever is lucky and had the first HSM go off wins you cannot "dodge" hsm now that it flys faster than vikings and corrupters PRE-NERF hsm that didnt outrun corrupters/vikings was balanced because it still countered and did heavy damage to slow moving units (broodlords, tanks) and was fine as a big aoe damage to endgame armies with lots of tanks or broodlords. but now its too good on paper but thank god no game ever gets to the point where we see HSM | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:50 trwkling wrote: but he could've split though yeah? i mean its just like fungal? if you split against it its fine? and it has such a short cast range you can snipe it before it gets casted Not to mention the seeker missile AOE is actually terrible and the damage drops very fast within the AOE. Unlike storm and fungal, which do 100% damage within the entire AOE. | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
.47: Overlord .94: Queen 1.41: Mothership, Broodlord 1.88: Fast Overlord, Slow Overseer, Carrier, High Templar, Slow Observer, Thor, Battlecruiser 2.25: Colossus, Immortal, Voidray, Sentry, Slow Zealot, Marine, Marauder, Ghost, Tank, Raven, Viking-Ground, Infestor, Slow Roach, Hydra 2.5: Slow Warp Prism, Medivac, Slow Baneling, Queen-Creep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Need Head Start: 2.75: Viking-Air, Banshee, Fast Overseer, Fast Zealot 2.81: Workers, Fast Observer, Archon, Dark Templar 2.92: Infestor-Creep, Slow Roach-Creep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can Outrun (Note: Seeker Missile Speed is 2.95): 2.95: Ultralisk, Corruptor, Slow Lings, Fast Banelings, Stalker, Slow Reaper 3.00: Fast Roach 3.25: Slow Baneling-Creep 3.375: Hydra-Creep, Fast Warp Prism, Stimmed Marines & Marauders 3.75: Mutalisk 3.83: Fast Baneling-Creep, Ultralisk-Creep, Fast Reaper 3.90: Fast Roach-Creep 4.25: Phoenix, Hellion 4.70: Speedling 6.11: Speedling-Creep So Vikings could outrun the seeker missle, they just need enough space to get away | ||
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herbie
140 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:49 roymarthyup wrote: I said it the moment i saw seeker missile buffed to move faster the vikings/corrupters that its pretty overpowered and will lead to stupid gameplay seeker missiles do too much damage and actually RUN FASTER than vikings and once launched its actually impossible for the viking to avoid it and it does massive damage in a aoe to all the clumped air the seeker missiles didnt have an effect on that game and maru woulda won regarldess, but we saw how retarded that is.1spellcasted kills like 10 vikings a piece. just too good the real imba of seeker missile is once terrans start getting it against zerg trust me its going to be BRUTAL. seeker missiles are like stronger versions of storm and outrun corrupters/broodlords and are undodgable #1 HSM don't outrun corrupters at all, they only outrun vikings by the tiniest margin. #2 Its not imposible to avoid, its quite easy, split up viking find out which one is being tracked and stear it in a different direction. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 22 2012 19:50 KristofferAG wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ludcwejZJk I remember multiple games in MLGs last year, in particular TvT, where sky Terran was used. not as a rush build though | ||
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