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whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
May 21 2012 06:36 GMT
#261
lol gary is a gamer
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
May 21 2012 06:36 GMT
#262
I personally can't wait to see how good these guys are in a couple more months.
eSports for life.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 06:37:02
May 21 2012 06:36 GMT
#263
On May 21 2012 15:36 Ksquared wrote:
I personally can't wait to see how good these guys are in a couple more months.

This is why I don't like them splitting their attention. Let the BW players hold the fort, and let the SC2 players lab that shit. Switching is going to look bad for both games.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
May 21 2012 06:36 GMT
#264
Banshee openings are really common in TvT...I missed that game, but if it's what I'm thinking it's not an all-in by any stretch of the imaginations.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 21 2012 06:36 GMT
#265
On May 21 2012 15:32 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 15:21 Falconblade wrote:
Not too impressed with the level of SC2 play I've seen so far. It just seems like Korean Masters level, except for Effort who looked pretty good vs. Flash. He might be a touch under what I may see from a mid-class foreigner. The others look a fair bit below mid-tier foreigner. Still lots of time to improve though.


Some of them are high masters and grandmasters which actually makes them better than "mid-tier foreigners."

ToD, desRow, MajOr, etc are all in Korean GM, and probably lots more. Just from what I know personally, there are quite a few SEA players in high masters KR etc. I don't think it makes them better than "mid-tier foreigners", but combo that with their experience, I suppose so if it was on stage.
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
May 21 2012 06:37 GMT
#266
On May 21 2012 15:33 Swords wrote:
I don't know how to describe it exactly, but the thing that's impressed me most about the BW players is how crisp everything is. The decision making and game knowledge isn't quite there, but there are never situations where drops are sitting behind mineral lines massacring scvs, Protoss kill drops instantly once hts hit the field, there's almost never any supply blocks. These guys just have insane awareness and reaction time - if they can get the decision making process down/some metagame knowledge then they'll be really really good.

It's not amazing my any means, but the raw mechanics are just so smooth!

Ya its the game sense that kind of transfers over I imagine. Basically they know what to do, just not the best way to go about doing it.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
UTL_Unlimited
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)353 Posts
May 21 2012 06:37 GMT
#267
On May 21 2012 15:32 Nibbler89 wrote:
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On May 21 2012 15:28 UTL_Unlimited wrote:
Skyhigh with the "what? I failed 1-1-1? Zero fucks given".
Still steamrolls.

Sea T.T Please get out of your slumpp

It wasn't really a failed 1-1-1. It's a pretty common build to go fast banshee to kill some scv / marine while getting your own expo up. If you noticed he cut marine / hellion to get cc not that much later and moved rax to banshee for stim, pretty sure it was planned to be that way. Skyhigh played pretty well the only real questionable decision making being to base trade with his marines as if sea had been ready with siege tank / repair it wouldn't have done as much damage but it still worked out pretty well. He never really missed a beat with his macro, red terrans build was a bit all over the place with really late upgrades for his bio, I think he went 1-1-1 because he saw skyhigh was going banshee as opposed to the more standard 1 rax fe into 3 rax and wasn't used to the transition back into bio.


This isn't my opinion for a response (it was the commentators)
Skyhigh apparently got 3 scvs with the banshees and the hellion run in was to weaken the marines so that the banshee could do the actual damage after scaring the marines away. But the way that the hellions ran in and the way that the marines were split made it so that the marines wouldn't get the most optimal splash damage from the hellions so the banshee was repelled. This let Sea get that timing off where he would siege from the lower ground and elevator up.

I feel like instead Skyhigh made a pretty solid decision to counter attack with a group of marines. Of course in the in game situation, I think it took REAL balls to do it especially since his tech structures were so far into the ledge and Sea's tanks and marines were next to eh production building, but we saw that Skyhigh spread the SCVs and moved in with his produced marines and tanks to hold that off while having another small group of marines hit the lower siege tank.

And I'm a little confused since skyhigh went the 1-1-1 (your end sentence).
Need to write more things...
Frostlone
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia75 Posts
May 21 2012 06:38 GMT
#268
On May 21 2012 15:33 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 15:32 Falconblade wrote:
On May 21 2012 15:30 rysecake wrote:
On May 21 2012 15:21 Falconblade wrote:
Not too impressed with the level of SC2 play I've seen so far. It just seems like Korean Masters level, except for Effort who looked pretty good vs. Flash. He might be a touch under what I may see from a mid-class foreigner. The others look a fair bit below mid-tier foreigner. Still lots of time to improve though.


lmao if you think people like incontrol can match these players you needa give me some of what you're smoking



When has Incontrol been mid-tier? I love the guy, but he's not midtier

I'd say Mid-tier might be players like HasuObs, BratOk, etc (chose them off the top of my head)


stopped reading here.

I agree, even though they aren't top, top foreigners doesn't mean they're mid tier.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 21 2012 06:38 GMT
#269
On May 21 2012 15:32 Nibbler89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 15:28 UTL_Unlimited wrote:
Skyhigh with the "what? I failed 1-1-1? Zero fucks given".
Still steamrolls.

Sea T.T Please get out of your slumpp

It wasn't really a failed 1-1-1. It's a pretty common build to go fast banshee to kill some scv / marine while getting your own expo up. If you noticed he cut marine / hellion to get cc not that much later and moved rax to banshee for stim, pretty sure it was planned to be that way. Skyhigh played pretty well the only real questionable decision making being to base trade with his marines as if sea had been ready with siege tank / repair it wouldn't have done as much damage but it still worked out pretty well because he cut off reinforcements and lifted his production(after combat shield finished) and thus was able to overwhelm the red terrans forces at his main.

He never really missed a beat with his macro, red terrans build was a bit all over the place with really late upgrades for his bio, I think he went 1-1-1 because he saw skyhigh was going banshee as opposed to the more standard 1 rax fe into 3 rax and wasn't used to the transition back into bio.

Basically skyhigh other than one questionable decision played well but since his opponent played badly it is hard to determine how good he really is beyond what I already mentioned of having good macro / decision making(for the most part).

Precisely what happened, if anyone 1-1-1 ed it was Sea, he also had bad macro, his overall play was quite bad tbh, high master korean terrans would've murdered him 100%.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
b0mBerMan
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan289 Posts
May 21 2012 06:38 GMT
#270
if they just started now, i think they are showing quality games.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
May 21 2012 06:39 GMT
#271
Movie vs Hydra next set please!
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
May 21 2012 06:41 GMT
#272
Why so few watching?
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
May 21 2012 06:41 GMT
#273
On May 21 2012 15:38 Frostlone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 15:33 rysecake wrote:
On May 21 2012 15:32 Falconblade wrote:
On May 21 2012 15:30 rysecake wrote:
On May 21 2012 15:21 Falconblade wrote:
Not too impressed with the level of SC2 play I've seen so far. It just seems like Korean Masters level, except for Effort who looked pretty good vs. Flash. He might be a touch under what I may see from a mid-class foreigner. The others look a fair bit below mid-tier foreigner. Still lots of time to improve though.


lmao if you think people like incontrol can match these players you needa give me some of what you're smoking



When has Incontrol been mid-tier? I love the guy, but he's not midtier

I'd say Mid-tier might be players like HasuObs, BratOk, etc (chose them off the top of my head)


stopped reading here.

I agree, even though they aren't top, top foreigners doesn't mean they're mid tier.



Might have different definitions of mid tier. I personally think Top tier is made of people like Stephano, Naniwa, Thorzain, HuK (on and off, he seems to like going back and forth), Sen and a few others who seem to hit that level and then go back down. For one, Incontrol (sorry Incontrol! You're still awesome!) would not be mid-tier, what's he won or done for that?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 21 2012 06:41 GMT
#274
Time for PvP.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 21 2012 06:41 GMT
#275
On May 21 2012 15:41 Stanlot wrote:
Why so few watching?

Exhausted from yesterday + mlg today is my bet
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
May 21 2012 06:41 GMT
#276
THE HOON
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 21 2012 06:42 GMT
#277
Jaehoon vs P, probably Horang2
Toast_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States56 Posts
May 21 2012 06:42 GMT
#278
I take it there is no english stream? (at least I cant find one )
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 21 2012 06:42 GMT
#279
On May 21 2012 15:41 Stanlot wrote:
Why so few watching?


Live? It's afternoon on a Monday in Korea. People at school and work.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Le French
Profile Joined December 2011
France782 Posts
May 21 2012 06:42 GMT
#280
if CJ wins 2-0, will team 8 get to ace match?
Ca va?
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