EPT[SPL] Team8 vs CJ Entus - Page 14
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whirlpool
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:36 Ksquared wrote: I personally can't wait to see how good these guys are in a couple more months. This is why I don't like them splitting their attention. Let the BW players hold the fort, and let the SC2 players lab that shit. Switching is going to look bad for both games. | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:32 setzer wrote: Some of them are high masters and grandmasters which actually makes them better than "mid-tier foreigners." ToD, desRow, MajOr, etc are all in Korean GM, and probably lots more. Just from what I know personally, there are quite a few SEA players in high masters KR etc. I don't think it makes them better than "mid-tier foreigners", but combo that with their experience, I suppose so if it was on stage. | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:33 Swords wrote: I don't know how to describe it exactly, but the thing that's impressed me most about the BW players is how crisp everything is. The decision making and game knowledge isn't quite there, but there are never situations where drops are sitting behind mineral lines massacring scvs, Protoss kill drops instantly once hts hit the field, there's almost never any supply blocks. These guys just have insane awareness and reaction time - if they can get the decision making process down/some metagame knowledge then they'll be really really good. It's not amazing my any means, but the raw mechanics are just so smooth! Ya its the game sense that kind of transfers over I imagine. Basically they know what to do, just not the best way to go about doing it. | ||
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UTL_Unlimited
Korea (South)353 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:32 Nibbler89 wrote: It wasn't really a failed 1-1-1. It's a pretty common build to go fast banshee to kill some scv / marine while getting your own expo up. If you noticed he cut marine / hellion to get cc not that much later and moved rax to banshee for stim, pretty sure it was planned to be that way. Skyhigh played pretty well the only real questionable decision making being to base trade with his marines as if sea had been ready with siege tank / repair it wouldn't have done as much damage but it still worked out pretty well. He never really missed a beat with his macro, red terrans build was a bit all over the place with really late upgrades for his bio, I think he went 1-1-1 because he saw skyhigh was going banshee as opposed to the more standard 1 rax fe into 3 rax and wasn't used to the transition back into bio. This isn't my opinion for a response (it was the commentators) Skyhigh apparently got 3 scvs with the banshees and the hellion run in was to weaken the marines so that the banshee could do the actual damage after scaring the marines away. But the way that the hellions ran in and the way that the marines were split made it so that the marines wouldn't get the most optimal splash damage from the hellions so the banshee was repelled. This let Sea get that timing off where he would siege from the lower ground and elevator up. I feel like instead Skyhigh made a pretty solid decision to counter attack with a group of marines. Of course in the in game situation, I think it took REAL balls to do it especially since his tech structures were so far into the ledge and Sea's tanks and marines were next to eh production building, but we saw that Skyhigh spread the SCVs and moved in with his produced marines and tanks to hold that off while having another small group of marines hit the lower siege tank. And I'm a little confused since skyhigh went the 1-1-1 (your end sentence). | ||
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Frostlone
Australia75 Posts
I agree, even though they aren't top, top foreigners doesn't mean they're mid tier. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:32 Nibbler89 wrote: It wasn't really a failed 1-1-1. It's a pretty common build to go fast banshee to kill some scv / marine while getting your own expo up. If you noticed he cut marine / hellion to get cc not that much later and moved rax to banshee for stim, pretty sure it was planned to be that way. Skyhigh played pretty well the only real questionable decision making being to base trade with his marines as if sea had been ready with siege tank / repair it wouldn't have done as much damage but it still worked out pretty well because he cut off reinforcements and lifted his production(after combat shield finished) and thus was able to overwhelm the red terrans forces at his main. He never really missed a beat with his macro, red terrans build was a bit all over the place with really late upgrades for his bio, I think he went 1-1-1 because he saw skyhigh was going banshee as opposed to the more standard 1 rax fe into 3 rax and wasn't used to the transition back into bio. Basically skyhigh other than one questionable decision played well but since his opponent played badly it is hard to determine how good he really is beyond what I already mentioned of having good macro / decision making(for the most part). Precisely what happened, if anyone 1-1-1 ed it was Sea, he also had bad macro, his overall play was quite bad tbh, high master korean terrans would've murdered him 100%. | ||
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b0mBerMan
Japan271 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
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Falconblade
United States1035 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:38 Frostlone wrote: I agree, even though they aren't top, top foreigners doesn't mean they're mid tier. Might have different definitions of mid tier. I personally think Top tier is made of people like Stephano, Naniwa, Thorzain, HuK (on and off, he seems to like going back and forth), Sen and a few others who seem to hit that level and then go back down. For one, Incontrol (sorry Incontrol! You're still awesome!) would not be mid-tier, what's he won or done for that? | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:41 Stanlot wrote: Why so few watching? Exhausted from yesterday + mlg today is my bet | ||
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Monocle
United States1509 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Toast_
United States56 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On May 21 2012 15:41 Stanlot wrote: Why so few watching? Live? It's afternoon on a Monday in Korea. People at school and work. | ||
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Le French
France782 Posts
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