• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:36
CEST 02:36
KST 09:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE6Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b5IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"7ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!40
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Terran or Protoss 3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4342 users

[SPL] Opening Day - Page 192

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 190 191 192 193 194 313 Next
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 20 2012 08:17 GMT
#3821
Lizzy save my liquibets!
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 20 2012 08:17 GMT
#3822
Man, I have not watched SPL for a while. I really forgot how awesome the camera work is. They do such a good job hyping with player face shots during the game, and the slow pan over the team waiting for the Ace pick.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 20 2012 08:17 GMT
#3823
On May 20 2012 17:17 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:14 Integra wrote:
I'm calling it, Effort will be good as hell in SC2. He played really good in that game, jesus.


He macro'd really well.* Can't tell how good he'll be (in ZvT), until you see them trying to macro, defend multiple drops and deal with the main army at the same time.


Put him against MMA and see how well he fares against his drops of hell.
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
May 20 2012 08:17 GMT
#3824
On May 20 2012 17:14 FidoDido wrote:
MVP looks like he's leagues ahead of flash right now.. will be a couple months before MVP vs Flash to look fair.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious about someone still practicing BW for an OSL.

We also get people who go 'LOL FLASH IS AVERAGE' when his opponent is Effort.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
May 20 2012 08:17 GMT
#3825
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?

He was like the time when DongRaeGu first came out (a whole lot better though). Monster macro, good sense of what's going on, but very late transitions.

He maxed out on 12th minute with muta/bane/ling, hive only started at 18?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 20 2012 08:17 GMT
#3826
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?

He looked very good, and Flash too. Too bad he didn't made more tanks, the game was quite short.
Kaxon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States117 Posts
May 20 2012 08:17 GMT
#3827
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?


Impossible to say for sure without seeing him play against a known SC2 player - but based on that game he looked like he could be at Code S level.
For the swarm!
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3828
Kinda awkward that a rookie is now KT's most reliable player, Can't wait to see him rise

SO HYPED FOR PL OMG
Everyday Girl's Day~!
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3829
is lizzy well known in broodwar? sry didn't follow the scene
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3830
On May 20 2012 17:16 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?


High Code A, maybe low Code S. Mechanics definitely top tier.


I would say that might be an overstatement though its hard to tell because of how that game went. The combination of a low tank count and being allowed to free macro made that look easier than it probably should have been.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3831
On May 20 2012 17:17 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:16 Fionn wrote:
Lizzy could become a star in one night if he can beat Effort.


Never in my life would I have ever thought KT would send out someone OTHER than Flash or Stats in an Ace Match in Proleague.


now I've seen everything.

PvZ in SC2 is so stupid to watch though.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6337 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3832
On May 20 2012 17:17 ChriseC wrote:
flash had like 10marines in queue each rax
disappointing

Yeah, at the end of the game when he had been taxed by Effort's aggression and lost control of shit already.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3833
On May 20 2012 17:17 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:16 Dreamer.T wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?


High Code A, maybe low Code S. Mechanics definitely top tier.

Hard to tell because so much changes if T played standard and harassed. Any Code A level Z can win if you get 3 base uncontested.


not really, antiga is the perfect map to defend that bust from. Mvp does it ALL the time. he has like a 90% winrate on that map without harassing the zerg much early game.
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3834
Can someone update the OP please?
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3835
On May 20 2012 17:17 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:16 Dreamer.T wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?


High Code A, maybe low Code S. Mechanics definitely top tier.

Which orifice did you pull that out from? It's just been 1 match :/


I'm just basing off of what I saw from last match.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:19:07
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3836
On May 20 2012 17:16 setzer wrote:
Effort is seriously ridiculously but it was really bizarre not to see Flash put any pressure on at all. Despite his lack of tank production he held that first attack marvelously.


It wasn't much of a hold - Effort withdrew after using up his banelings, isntead of sticking around and slowly losing his other units to reinforcements. He saved all of his mutas and many zerglings, so he had banelings morphing for the second wave much more quickly. Each time he attacked his supply lead was 25-30 bigger than before.

which was an awesome move by effort btw - most players (notably julyzerg) would overcommit on the first attack and lose a ton more units.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3837
On May 20 2012 17:16 windsupernova wrote:
Flash played really well, both of them did. They just need a little more experience but it was a fun game

It's quite clear that the BW pros have demonstrated that their mechanics and macro/micro ability is unbelievable! But they have also shown that their decision making and strategy choice is subpar. This is completely understandable as that comes with experience. It's far easier to learn strategy than it is to reach the level of mechanics that they possess
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3838
On May 20 2012 17:16 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?


High Code A, maybe low Code S. Mechanics definitely top tier.

I don't believe that effort would be able to qualify for code A. he's good but if he played vs someone who put on pressure and didn't let him drone and expand freely he would have a much harder time.
Maruprime.
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3839
i believe effort is going to cruuuush lizzy so badly
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
May 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#3840
On May 20 2012 17:18 tuestresfat wrote:
is lizzy well known in broodwar? sry didn't follow the scene


nope, hes never played a televised match.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Prev 1 190 191 192 193 194 313 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#92
davetesta18
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft450
ViBE142
ProTech84
CosmosSc2 60
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4722
Artosis 647
Larva 304
NaDa 111
Purpose 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever217
League of Legends
JimRising 793
Counter-Strike
summit1g11433
minikerr85
adren_tv15
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1007
C9.Mang0347
Other Games
tarik_tv5185
Day[9].tv1962
ToD273
Maynarde113
Livibee90
Mew2King70
Trikslyr57
Temp010
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1208
BasetradeTV180
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 110
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21428
League of Legends
• Scarra1630
Other Games
• Day9tv1962
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
9h 24m
Kung Fu Cup
10h 24m
Patches Events
15h 24m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
CrankTV Team League
1d 10h
OSC
1d 12h
OSC
1d 16h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Escore
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-28
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.