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520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
May 20 2012 08:19 GMT
#3861
On May 20 2012 17:18 tuestresfat wrote:
is lizzy well known in broodwar? sry didn't follow the scene

He's a complete unknown. Just picked up by KT a few months ago.
Writer
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3862
On May 20 2012 17:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
This is the real test now, Motive is GM on KR server.

His biggest test will be getting over the mental block of actually facing Effort on TV.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3863
would be hillarious if Effort 6 Pools >.<

Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3864
Is lizzy known in sc2? What level does he play at? Not that I know anything about sc2
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3865
One thing I can take from Flash's game is, his macro in sc2 is quite good, he just needs to know how to pressure the zerg
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3866
On May 20 2012 17:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
This is the real test now, Motive is GM on KR server.

Makes sense. he had really good decision making along with good micro/macro.
Maruprime.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3867
On May 20 2012 17:18 vthree wrote:
Lol, all sc2 pro would have macro like Effort did when Terran put on zero pressure... He took his third with 20 lings and no spines... Once his production kicked it, not much any Terran can do

Effort played well but it was nothing special. Flash just let him get away with it.


No, he took his third with zero lings. His pool wasn't even complete yet. You can do that against cc first.
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3868
On May 20 2012 17:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
This is the real test now, Motive is GM on KR server.


Motive = Lizzy?
-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3869
On May 20 2012 17:17 Kaxon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?


Impossible to say for sure without seeing him play against a known SC2 player - but based on that game he looked like he could be at Code S level.


IMO it's impossible to tell because flash put on literally no pressure. with no pressure any average zerg can max out like he did and then roll a terran who doesn't have a high tank count or any marauders/ doesn't split his marines well.
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3870
On May 20 2012 17:19 Pure-SC2 wrote:
is lizzy the new protoss bonjwa?


please dont misuse terms like that.
.
Saiwa
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany789 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3871
What the fuck ... so many matches must be played today ... THATS FUCKING AWESOME !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM_P7eLbY48&feature=player_detailpage#t=359s YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS TO ME CLIDE ! Artosis
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3872
On May 20 2012 17:18 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:18 tuestresfat wrote:
is lizzy well known in broodwar? sry didn't follow the scene


nope, hes never played a televised match.

Never had a televised match - Debut and become ace on the same day. Not bad, not bad.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3873
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?

He looked really good but he basically got all his bases up uncontested, which would not happen that often at the highest levels. It's really hard to say without seeing more but he's clearly really good and better than Flash at the moment.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3874
Effort looks confident, I really hope he can win this =).
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#3875
On May 20 2012 17:20 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Is lizzy known in sc2? What level does he play at? Not that I know anything about sc2


Lowish Korean Grandmaster.

Which makes him automatically one of the best players in Proleague along with Effort, Soulkey and maybe a few others we haven't seen.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
May 20 2012 08:21 GMT
#3876
On May 20 2012 17:18 vthree wrote:
Lol, all sc2 pro would have macro like Effort did when Terran put on zero pressure... He took his third with 20 lings and no spines... Once his production kicked it, not much any Terran can do

Effort played well but it was nothing special. Flash just let him get away with it.


flash had extreeemely fast third, he just chose to not pressure, you dont actually NEED to pressure zerg if your eco is going to be that high
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:21:40
May 20 2012 08:21 GMT
#3877
On May 20 2012 17:17 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:17 Inflicted_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:14 Integra wrote:
I'm calling it, Effort will be good as hell in SC2. He played really good in that game, jesus.


He macro'd really well.* Can't tell how good he'll be (in ZvT), until you see them trying to macro, defend multiple drops and deal with the main army at the same time.


Put him against MMA and see how well he fares against his drops of hell.

I can guarantee you that macro and multitasking is not what is going to set Effort back, the guy is insane at that. What is going to stop him is decision making and tactics, which the BW pros are less experienced in.

"See how he fares against drops" is a silly test if you've ever seen S-class Zergs multitask in BW ZvT.

Regardless, we'll see how he does ZvP against Korean GM, though I suspect if he loses it'll surely be decision making and not mechanical execution.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 20 2012 08:21 GMT
#3878
honestly i saw a gleam of flash's brilliance he will come back way better after he gets some more practice in.

i also called flash losing as the game started i am like magic or something.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 20 2012 08:21 GMT
#3879
Yeah Flash didn't need to harrass or be aggressive or whatever, he just lacked tanks and after he fended off the first attack (quite nicely imo) he started Two thors even though he had no tanks, definitely needed to get his tank count up a lot higher.
ShynZ
Profile Joined September 2010
331 Posts
May 20 2012 08:21 GMT
#3880
motive= lizzy?
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