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tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
May 20 2012 08:23 GMT
#3901
On May 20 2012 17:23 KingofGods wrote:
Flash didn't have enough production buildings.

specifically factories with techlabs
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
May 20 2012 08:23 GMT
#3902
On May 20 2012 17:22 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:12 Integra wrote:
Effort maxed out at 10, 11 minute mark, holy shit that was insane.

With no roaches....this is why macro mechanics need nerfing/elimination. Game's too fast!


chrono, mules, and injects really ruin sc2 imo :/
Minischoles
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom9 Posts
May 20 2012 08:23 GMT
#3903
Effort played well - but any zerg plays well vs no harassment. Be interesting to see how he matches up against some top SC2 terrans, it's a completely different game for zerg when they get harassed from the get go.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 20 2012 08:23 GMT
#3904
On May 20 2012 17:12 Integra wrote:
Effort maxed out at 10, 11 minute mark, holy shit that was insane.


it was 13:40
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6337 Posts
May 20 2012 08:23 GMT
#3905
On May 20 2012 17:22 thunddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:17 Disengaged wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:17 Inflicted_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:14 Integra wrote:
I'm calling it, Effort will be good as hell in SC2. He played really good in that game, jesus.


He macro'd really well.* Can't tell how good he'll be (in ZvT), until you see them trying to macro, defend multiple drops and deal with the main army at the same time.


Put him against MMA and see how well he fares against his drops of hell.

I can guarantee you that macro and multitasking is not what is going to set Effort back, the guy is insane at that. What is going to stop him is decision making and tactics, which the BW pros are less experienced in.

"See how he fares against drops" is a silly test if you've ever seen S-class Zergs multitask in BW ZvT.

Regardless, we'll see how he does ZvP against Korean GM, though I suspect if he loses it'll surely be decision making and not mechanical execution.



agreed. just look at how fast jaedong reacted to a little warp prism warp-in blip during his game. INSTANT reaction.

He happened to be controlling those roaches right when the opponent warped the zealots in, though. He was going to move the roaches away at the same time he moved the queen away, but he turned around.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 20 2012 08:23 GMT
#3906
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
May 20 2012 08:24 GMT
#3907
GAH Tanks unseiged for flash when the banelings were pushing in the replay they showed.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
May 20 2012 08:24 GMT
#3908
On May 20 2012 17:17 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:17 Inflicted_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:14 Integra wrote:
I'm calling it, Effort will be good as hell in SC2. He played really good in that game, jesus.


He macro'd really well.* Can't tell how good he'll be (in ZvT), until you see them trying to macro, defend multiple drops and deal with the main army at the same time.


Put him against MMA and see how well he fares against his drops of hell.

Lol I really don't think the top BW players are even a little bit concerned about a mechanics fight vs the top SC2 players.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 20 2012 08:24 GMT
#3909
On May 20 2012 17:23 Minischoles wrote:
Effort played well - but any zerg plays well vs no harassment. Be interesting to see how he matches up against some top SC2 terrans, it's a completely different game for zerg when they get harassed from the get go.


lol. So many terrans play defensively on antiga the way flash did, jesus.

He just did it wrongly!!!


Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 20 2012 08:24 GMT
#3910
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


Honestly I would be surprised if they tried to qualify for this code A. I would probably expect a lot of them to try to go for the next code A though.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 20 2012 08:24 GMT
#3911
Flash is a fighter and a champion. He will grow until e demolishes Effort. He made a new enemy in sc2.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 20 2012 08:24 GMT
#3912
On May 20 2012 17:23 Angra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:22 bgx wrote:
Esports stream has much better quality than sayle its better to view it on it, you can actually see all the info there clearly. You can always put Sayle audio in background. Btw


Or listen to the glorious seductive voices of the sexy Korean commentators!

And finally getting back the so much needed 1 2 3 FIGHTING from fangirls
Stork[gm]
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
May 20 2012 08:24 GMT
#3913
Don't worry guys, Flash will never accept not being the Ace. He will up his practice schedule by another 16 hours/day.
the game is the game
DropTester
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia608 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#3914
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


there wont be a crossover, for the time being anyways
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:25:10
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#3915
Is there an English name for Effort's intro song?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#3916
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.

rofl what makes you think they're going to compete in them? i doubt any of them will do that. it's not kespa but GOM.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#3917
Gah, Flash needs to keep his chin and up guide Terran through these dark times.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#3918
On May 20 2012 17:21 Akhee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:18 vthree wrote:
Lol, all sc2 pro would have macro like Effort did when Terran put on zero pressure... He took his third with 20 lings and no spines... Once his production kicked it, not much any Terran can do

Effort played well but it was nothing special. Flash just let him get away with it.


flash had extreeemely fast third, he just chose to not pressure, you dont actually NEED to pressure zerg if your eco is going to be that high


Indeed. What Flash failed at, or what Effort did well, was simply scouting the Rax into 3CC build. And Effort immediately played very greedy from there. All one can say is that effort's corner cutting was perfect in that game.

As for where that ranks him, I have no clue.
Meh
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#3919
On May 20 2012 17:25 Angra wrote:
Is there an English name for Effort's intro song?

Nalina by Block B?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3920
Remember people, Flash still has OSL to practice for.
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