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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3941
On May 20 2012 17:26 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:26 Deathmanbob wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they?

Who said they can't?

Some kind of exclusivity, I've heard this as well.
:)
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3942
On May 20 2012 17:24 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:23 Minischoles wrote:
Effort played well - but any zerg plays well vs no harassment. Be interesting to see how he matches up against some top SC2 terrans, it's a completely different game for zerg when they get harassed from the get go.


lol. So many terrans play defensively on antiga the way flash did, jesus.

He just did it wrongly!!!



exactly, watch some games with MVP going pretty much the same build but with more tanks.. i believe it was vs july this last season in code s. It was horrible to watch july go up against that wall and do nothing because tanks on high ground + bunkers on low ground makes it murder.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3943
On May 20 2012 17:26 Azarkon wrote:
Flash's style is his BW style, but in SC 2 it's Bomber's style as well. The greedy opening, the reliance on marines, the low tank production - it's all there.


Someone tell him to do the mass rax Sauron Terran style that Bomber does
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#3944
On May 20 2012 17:27 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:26 bgx wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:26 Deathmanbob wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they?

Who said they can't?

They are salaried players practicing for leagues their team and sponsors get exposure in, i.e., KeSPA leagues.


They can, GSL won't stop them, Kespa said they want to all work together and if it is true I imagine they will allow it.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:29:25
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#3945
On May 20 2012 17:27 Kergy wrote:
What if the teams start practicing only SC2 with the second set and ace match in mind? I think that'd be a seriously good strategy to win this season...



players that play BW must play SC2 in the next match. and vice versa.

edit: correct me if im wrong, please.
.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#3946
On May 20 2012 17:26 Juliette wrote:
Set 1
Set 2
Set 3

CJ vs KT

Ace Match

Z6 EffOrt <Cloud Kingdom> P12 Lizzy (Motive)


pool, hatch vs nexus, forge. Z takes no gas
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#3947
On May 20 2012 17:25 baubo wrote:
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On May 20 2012 17:21 Akhee wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:18 vthree wrote:
Lol, all sc2 pro would have macro like Effort did when Terran put on zero pressure... He took his third with 20 lings and no spines... Once his production kicked it, not much any Terran can do

Effort played well but it was nothing special. Flash just let him get away with it.


flash had extreeemely fast third, he just chose to not pressure, you dont actually NEED to pressure zerg if your eco is going to be that high


Indeed. What Flash failed at, or what Effort did well, was simply scouting the Rax into 3CC build. And Effort immediately played very greedy from there. All one can say is that effort's corner cutting was perfect in that game.

As for where that ranks him, I have no clue.


IMO you need to put on some sort of pressure while getting a fast 3rd. Flash literally just made marines/medivacs then tanks, which tbh is not a great way to play TvZ. If he had used something like fOrGG's hellion/banshee pressure while getting a fast 3rd and double upgrades, then he would have at least forced the zerg to react to things instead of just making 90 drones then units.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
May 20 2012 08:29 GMT
#3948
On May 20 2012 17:28 thunddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:27 Kergy wrote:
What if the teams start practicing only SC2 with the second set and ace match in mind? I think that'd be a seriously good strategy to win this season...



players that play BW must play SC2 in the next match. and vice versa.

edit: correct me if im wrong, please.


Thats corect i believe. Still doesn't disprove his point hto. it would make more sense to sac the BW set.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
kiero
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada136 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3949
Quick question. Where do we watch these Code S and Code A games?
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3950
On May 20 2012 17:26 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:25 baubo wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:21 Akhee wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:18 vthree wrote:
Lol, all sc2 pro would have macro like Effort did when Terran put on zero pressure... He took his third with 20 lings and no spines... Once his production kicked it, not much any Terran can do

Effort played well but it was nothing special. Flash just let him get away with it.


flash had extreeemely fast third, he just chose to not pressure, you dont actually NEED to pressure zerg if your eco is going to be that high


Indeed. What Flash failed at, or what Effort did well, was simply scouting the Rax into 3CC build. And Effort immediately played very greedy from there. All one can say is that effort's corner cutting was perfect in that game.

As for where that ranks him, I have no clue.


It's not even like he was in a bad position, he had only one bunker and his tanks were not sieged when the first attack hit, he could have held it. need to watch some mvp vods of how he holds that bust on that map. 3 bunkers and more tanks with units pre spread.


If Flash had played that more turtlish, effort would've simply not attacked like that. Flash left things mobile because he wanted to be mobile. He probably just didn't expect zerg macro to hit that quickly.
Meh
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3951
we want lan
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3952
Loooool
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3953
LAGGGGG
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3954
LOL BLIZZ
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3955
lol
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Clafou
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium921 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3956
LOL
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:31:24
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3957
On May 20 2012 17:28 thunddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:27 Kergy wrote:
What if the teams start practicing only SC2 with the second set and ace match in mind? I think that'd be a seriously good strategy to win this season...



players that play BW must play SC2 in the next match. and vice versa.

edit: correct me if im wrong, please.


That's true but they can also just sit out for that match as well, and then participate in whichever they did the previous time I think. So like SC2, sit out, SC2.. or BW, sit out, BW, etc.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3958
Oh my god lol
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3959
On May 20 2012 17:30 kiero wrote:
Quick question. Where do we watch these Code S and Code A games?


http://www.gomtv.net/
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#3960
hahaha lan
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
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