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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:27:01
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3921
On May 20 2012 17:23 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:20 Stanlot wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?

He looked really good but he basically got all his bases up uncontested, which would not happen that often at the highest levels. It's really hard to say without seeing more but he's clearly really good and better than Flash at the moment.


what Stanlot said, and to add, Effort did what a Zerg player who expands freely should do, macro like a beast and throw units at the other player, and he did just that. Considering the situation Effort was in he did the correct choice.


It should also be noted that Effort's decision making in the attack looked considerably better than some experienced GSL zergs. He picked the right targets, and he didn't keep attacking into a losing fight, he pulled back and regrouped at all the right times. Sayle and Pokebunny were marvelling that he stayed max, but that's mainly beacause he saved all of his mutalisks, and pulled out with about 50 lings, after clearing flash's position the first time.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:30:51
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3922
Seriously though, Flash put on no aggression that game. You can't go triple CC versus Zergs without putting on pressure. You need to at least make some hellions to delay creep spread/force some roaches.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:27:12
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3923
go go effort !!!

edit : lame that they're using only 2 colours for sc2.. -,-

what the hell is up with that ?
T H C makes ppl happy
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3924
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they?
No Artosis, you are robin
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3925
On May 20 2012 17:23 tuestresfat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:23 KingofGods wrote:
Flash didn't have enough production buildings.

specifically factories with techlabs


No. In general. All of his barracks had like five marines or more in queue. It's why he was so far behind in supply yet low on minerals. Had he had more production buildings, of all kinds, he would have likely had nearly as much supply as effort if not the same. It was pretty impressive Flash didn't simply die from the first full-on attack.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3926
Set 1
Set 2
Set 3

CJ vs KT

Ace Match

Z6 EffOrt <Cloud Kingdom> P12 Lizzy (Motive)

OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3927
On May 20 2012 17:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:25 Angra wrote:
Is there an English name for Effort's intro song?

Nalina by Block B?


ty
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3928
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


lol they won't even try to qualify I think.
I'm quite sure KespA players aren't allowed to play GSL.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3929
Flash's style is his BW style, but in SC 2 it's Bomber's style as well. The greedy opening, the reliance on marines, the low tank production - it's all there.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:27:33
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3930
On May 20 2012 17:24 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


Honestly I would be surprised if they tried to qualify for this code A. I would probably expect a lot of them to try to go for the next code A though.


If they're of the calibre, why not? I mean, except those who are still in OSL, obviously.

EDIT: Wait, they're being forbidden from competing? That sucks.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3931
On May 20 2012 17:26 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they?

Who said they can't?
Stork[gm]
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:27:13
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#3932
On May 20 2012 17:25 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:21 Akhee wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:18 vthree wrote:
Lol, all sc2 pro would have macro like Effort did when Terran put on zero pressure... He took his third with 20 lings and no spines... Once his production kicked it, not much any Terran can do

Effort played well but it was nothing special. Flash just let him get away with it.


flash had extreeemely fast third, he just chose to not pressure, you dont actually NEED to pressure zerg if your eco is going to be that high


Indeed. What Flash failed at, or what Effort did well, was simply scouting the Rax into 3CC build. And Effort immediately played very greedy from there. All one can say is that effort's corner cutting was perfect in that game.

As for where that ranks him, I have no clue.


It's not even like he was in a bad position, he had only one bunker and his tanks were not sieged when the first attack hit, he could have held it. need to watch some mvp vods of how he holds that bust on that map. 3 bunkers and more tanks with units pre spread.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3933
What if the teams start practicing only SC2 with the second set and ace match in mind? I think that'd be a seriously good strategy to win this season...
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3934
Whos better at banelings nao:

JULY OR EFFORT?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3935
why are they using only 2 colours in sc2 ?

-,-'
T H C makes ppl happy
Natespank
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada449 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3936
omfg this is still going on, there hasn't been enough games for all these ads. Thank god no ads before the ace.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6677 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3937
On May 20 2012 17:26 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:26 Deathmanbob wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they?

Who said they can't?

They are salaried players practicing for leagues their team and sponsors get exposure in, i.e., KeSPA leagues.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3938
On May 20 2012 17:26 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:23 Integra wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:20 Stanlot wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote:
For the SC2 buffs of this thread:

How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment?

He looked really good but he basically got all his bases up uncontested, which would not happen that often at the highest levels. It's really hard to say without seeing more but he's clearly really good and better than Flash at the moment.


what Stanlot said, and to add, Effort did what a Zerg player who expands freely should do, macro like a beast and throw units at the other player, and he did just that. Considering the situation Effort was in he did the correct choice.


It should also be noted that Effort's decision making in the attack looked considerably better than some experienced GSL zergs. He picked the right targets, and he didn't keep attacking into a losing fight, he pulled back and regrouped at all the right times.


I don't know about that, he attacked into a siege line roughly 10 seconds before 2-2 finished, and he could have split about 20 lings to attack an undefended third but he didn't and just grouped up the entire army and attacked the natural.
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3939
FINALLY korean girls chanting in SC2 games, that was the ONE thing that SC2 was missing this whole time. ^_________^
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3940
On May 20 2012 17:26 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:

Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.


i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they?

They did before, and now Kespa and Blizzard are suppose to be "friends" what exactly speaks against it, given that the friendship is true.
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