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On May 20 2012 17:23 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:20 Stanlot wrote:On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote: For the SC2 buffs of this thread:
How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment? He looked really good but he basically got all his bases up uncontested, which would not happen that often at the highest levels. It's really hard to say without seeing more but he's clearly really good and better than Flash at the moment. what Stanlot said, and to add, Effort did what a Zerg player who expands freely should do, macro like a beast and throw units at the other player, and he did just that. Considering the situation Effort was in he did the correct choice.
It should also be noted that Effort's decision making in the attack looked considerably better than some experienced GSL zergs. He picked the right targets, and he didn't keep attacking into a losing fight, he pulled back and regrouped at all the right times. Sayle and Pokebunny were marvelling that he stayed max, but that's mainly beacause he saved all of his mutalisks, and pulled out with about 50 lings, after clearing flash's position the first time.
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Seriously though, Flash put on no aggression that game. You can't go triple CC versus Zergs without putting on pressure. You need to at least make some hellions to delay creep spread/force some roaches.
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go go effort !!! 
edit : lame that they're using only 2 colours for sc2.. -,-
what the hell is up with that ?
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On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote: To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:
Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.
i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they?
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On May 20 2012 17:23 tuestresfat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:23 KingofGods wrote: Flash didn't have enough production buildings. specifically factories with techlabs
No. In general. All of his barracks had like five marines or more in queue. It's why he was so far behind in supply yet low on minerals. Had he had more production buildings, of all kinds, he would have likely had nearly as much supply as effort if not the same. It was pretty impressive Flash didn't simply die from the first full-on attack.
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Set 1 Set 2 Set 3
CJ vs KT
Ace Match
Z6 EffOrt <Cloud Kingdom> P12 Lizzy (Motive)
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On May 20 2012 17:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:25 Angra wrote: Is there an English name for Effort's intro song? Nalina by Block B?
ty
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On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote: To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:
Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability.
lol they won't even try to qualify I think. I'm quite sure KespA players aren't allowed to play GSL.
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Flash's style is his BW style, but in SC 2 it's Bomber's style as well. The greedy opening, the reliance on marines, the low tank production - it's all there.
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On May 20 2012 17:24 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote: To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:
Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability. Honestly I would be surprised if they tried to qualify for this code A. I would probably expect a lot of them to try to go for the next code A though.
If they're of the calibre, why not? I mean, except those who are still in OSL, obviously.
EDIT: Wait, they're being forbidden from competing? That sucks.
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On May 20 2012 17:26 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote: To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:
Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability. i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they? Who said they can't?
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On May 20 2012 17:25 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:21 Akhee wrote:On May 20 2012 17:18 vthree wrote: Lol, all sc2 pro would have macro like Effort did when Terran put on zero pressure... He took his third with 20 lings and no spines... Once his production kicked it, not much any Terran can do
Effort played well but it was nothing special. Flash just let him get away with it. flash had extreeemely fast third, he just chose to not pressure, you dont actually NEED to pressure zerg if your eco is going to be that high Indeed. What Flash failed at, or what Effort did well, was simply scouting the Rax into 3CC build. And Effort immediately played very greedy from there. All one can say is that effort's corner cutting was perfect in that game. As for where that ranks him, I have no clue.
It's not even like he was in a bad position, he had only one bunker and his tanks were not sieged when the first attack hit, he could have held it. need to watch some mvp vods of how he holds that bust on that map. 3 bunkers and more tanks with units pre spread.
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What if the teams start practicing only SC2 with the second set and ace match in mind? I think that'd be a seriously good strategy to win this season...
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Whos better at banelings nao:
JULY OR EFFORT?
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why are they using only 2 colours in sc2 ?
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omfg this is still going on, there hasn't been enough games for all these ads. Thank god no ads before the ace.
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On May 20 2012 17:26 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:26 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote: To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:
Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability. i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they? Who said they can't? They are salaried players practicing for leagues their team and sponsors get exposure in, i.e., KeSPA leagues.
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On May 20 2012 17:26 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:23 Integra wrote:On May 20 2012 17:20 Stanlot wrote:On May 20 2012 17:15 inbox24 wrote: For the SC2 buffs of this thread:
How does Effort's skill currently compare to the GSL Code S players at the moment? He looked really good but he basically got all his bases up uncontested, which would not happen that often at the highest levels. It's really hard to say without seeing more but he's clearly really good and better than Flash at the moment. what Stanlot said, and to add, Effort did what a Zerg player who expands freely should do, macro like a beast and throw units at the other player, and he did just that. Considering the situation Effort was in he did the correct choice. It should also be noted that Effort's decision making in the attack looked considerably better than some experienced GSL zergs. He picked the right targets, and he didn't keep attacking into a losing fight, he pulled back and regrouped at all the right times.
I don't know about that, he attacked into a siege line roughly 10 seconds before 2-2 finished, and he could have split about 20 lings to attack an undefended third but he didn't and just grouped up the entire army and attacked the natural.
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FINALLY korean girls chanting in SC2 games, that was the ONE thing that SC2 was missing this whole time. ^_________^
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On May 20 2012 17:26 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 17:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote: To everyone asking how such and such player compares to GSL players:
Code A qualifiers are coming up. I'm sure we'll all have the opportunity to see how well they compare very soon. It's pretty absurd to try to judge their ability based on a single performance against another player of unknown ability. i dont think kespa players can compete in GSL can they? They did before, and now Kespa and Blizzard are suppose to be "friends" what exactly speaks against it, given that the friendship is true.
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