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flowSthead
1065 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:55 the`postman wrote: What else would he go vs stalker/sentry/immortal? Mass zerglings maybe? You just have to bait out enough forcefields to get your zerglings close. It's difficult but it should be doable. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:57 Derez wrote: You can make any unit look silly by getting it at inappropriate times. is there any time to appropriately use them? spores would be better vs stargate...vs terran lol?..zvz roach/infestor | ||
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itsjuspeter
United States668 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:58 the`postman wrote: He had already invested into hydra range/+2 air/and hydra den, he wasn't going to get out any other tech in time to survive that. I know, he was dead when that hydra den went down. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
The setup with taking the 3xGas expo and walling off the "normal" 3rd with gates was also very smart. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:59 itsjuspeter wrote: i feel like mutalisks on that map would be devastating seeing how huge the map is, why are zergs not using them? mass spine crawlers and mass mutas, then slowly go to BL infestor once u trade efficiently with mutas. Is there a reason zergs stopped using this? I feel like going muta would be predictable...i.e. its a good map for muta but also for blink stalkers | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:59 Sc2Null wrote: is there any time to appropriately use them? spores would be better vs stargate...vs terran lol?..zvz roach/infestor Well to be fair I understand having small numbers of hydras to back up the roach infestor army. But even then, if your army is even 1/3 hydra it's probably too much. Vs Terran I agree, it's pretty lol. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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Notfragile
Greece713 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:58 Lysanias wrote: Why is that an excuse ? So it's alright the unit sucks on a big map ? No. The unit sucks on every map. IF and only IF the reinforcement distance is short (nydus, creep spread, close positions), then a zerg can hit a timing after 3-4 immortals and before the colossi, where he can kill an expanding protoss. But it is 110% all-in. If the colossus range is upgraded or the colossus count is at 2 or more, then it is gg. So the unit sucks on every map but in really few cases it can work as an all-in unit. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On May 01 2012 20:01 Salteador Neo wrote: We have seen Hydras curbstomp gateway armies several times. Not all units must be easy to use like the herp derp roach Lol | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:58 the`postman wrote: He had already invested into hydra range/+2 air/and hydra den, he wasn't going to get out any other tech in time to survive that. Yes he would, what kind of logic is that? That's like saying that you are forbidden to transition because you've invested a few hundred resources into a certain tech tree, even though that tech is now useless. | ||
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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Scribble
2077 Posts
On May 01 2012 20:01 Salteador Neo wrote: We have seen Hydras curbstomp gateway armies several times. Not all units must be easy to use like the herp derp roach Are you really denying that the Hydra is a weak unit? That's like denying that SC2 carriers suck. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On May 01 2012 20:02 summerloud wrote: im getting tired of seeing zerg get raped... are there just no good zerg players right now or does the current metagame really put them at a disadvantage? It may be the new maps | ||
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MegaFonzie
Australia1084 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13410 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:58 Lysanias wrote: Why is that an excuse ? So it's alright the unit sucks on a big map ? I as protoss will not do an attack that relies on a timing with immortals on that map. Immortals are damn slow, they would never get to where I wanted them in time for the timing. Thats why the immortal sentry was used defensively and not offensively. Im sure Terran would not do something like a 1-1-1 on atlantis spaceship either, if the protoss forces siege tank leapfrogging it would take AGES to get across the map. Big map, far away third taken maybe something fast that exploits the map size and mobility of a protoss who opens robo, like mutalisks. Or defensive macro play and slow push with broodlords. But to send 40 roaches across the map and rally 20 hydras that show up when the roaches are dead, thats just a bad decision. Hydras aren't amazing or great but they are good for certain things and bad for others. Not every unit is a marine. | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:59 Sc2Null wrote: is there any time to appropriately use them? spores would be better vs stargate...vs terran lol?..zvz roach/infestor Hydralisk are "good" in early all ins, vs protoss who go cannon defense, as they have long range to kill every gateway and cyber core and pylon that make the wall, without any stalkers or photon cannons being able to shoot back. | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
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