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[IPL] FC15: MC vs Stephano - Page 3

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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 27 2012 21:41 GMT
#41
If Stephano has studied MC and knows to go for fast Hive and play safe, he has a chance, especially if MC's forcefields aren't up to par.

If he hasn't and the lag is minimal, MC will eat him for breakfast.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 27 2012 21:43 GMT
#42
MC has never lost a game on vs Stephano, on either ladder or in a tournament

and the poll is 50/50....
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Shackadeemus
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland247 Posts
April 27 2012 21:46 GMT
#43
On April 28 2012 06:43 1Eris1 wrote:
MC has never lost a game on vs Stephano, on either ladder or in a tournament

and the poll is 50/50....

never lost on ladder? How could you possibly know that? You're just trying to stir shit.
Pirate-bird ftw.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 27 2012 21:46 GMT
#44
On April 28 2012 06:43 1Eris1 wrote:
MC has never lost a game on vs Stephano, on either ladder or in a tournament

and the poll is 50/50....


It could be Stephano vs Flash in a BW best of 11 and 30% of TL would still vote for Stephano.
edwahn
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand121 Posts
April 27 2012 21:47 GMT
#45
On April 28 2012 06:25 emis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 06:20 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 28 2012 06:09 emis wrote:
It's kinda sad seeing people preemptively make excuses about cross-server lag. Koreans have really good internet, top teams shouldn't have a problem playing on foreign servers.

I guess it's another good reason to say "Stephano doesn't legitimately beat Code S players", should he win the showmatch, even though he's proved it wrong on multiple occasions.


It's not being used as an excuse for MC theoretically losing in most cases. People, me included, feel that lag ruins the legitimacy of anyone's win because it's just not proper conditions to be playing the game.

You could make both players play with their feet if you wanted and sure they'd both have an even playing feel but it wouldn't be a proper game.

Just listen to the pundits on SOTG when they talked about TSL4 and they mentioned it as well on the show before that. Cross server games are just bad for everyone, players and spectators regardless of who wins.

And you should stop denying that lag exists. I get 250ms connecting to NA from EU and I have good internet and am in western Europe. You can't play the game properly with 250ms.


I'm not denying the lag, I just don't think it's game changing. See my edited post.

EDIT: And I'm playing on NA from Estonia with a shitty connection. I don't get any lag whatsoever.


Koreans practice with NO lag. Their definition of no lag is also different to yours.. their KR server is basically LAN-level ping.

It's like practicing your micro on single player vs AI (zero lag) and suddenly going to 200+ ping. It makes a massive difference.

Why don't you try practicing your micro on single player vs AI for 80 hours then jump into a cross server game and see how it feels? See if it doesn't affect your game at all.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 27 2012 21:49 GMT
#46
stephano will destroy this arrogant guy.

go go stephano~~
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44106 Posts
April 27 2012 21:49 GMT
#47
On April 28 2012 05:41 bpat wrote:
MC has a 5-0 record vs Stephano and almost never loses PvZ, this should be pretty easy for him.


Plus his trophy is much bigger! But I don't think it'll be a shut out.

And I'm not sure how bad the lag is going to be for either player.

In an ideal situation, neither player would experience any lag... but if there's lag on both sides, I think that missing forcefields can be more game-ending than anything so common and drastic on the Zerg's side, so MC would be in a slightly worse position

MC fighting!!!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
AzureD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States320 Posts
April 27 2012 21:50 GMT
#48
Lag will likely ruin these games. Calling it now.

Anyway Stephano is like a slightly weaker DRG. From watching both of them play I can certainly see Stephano taking some games off him. I don't expect him to win though. I think Stephano has better ZvP than say Leenock or Nestea.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 22:01:34
April 27 2012 22:00 GMT
#49
As a Stephano big fan, i'm gonna say MC wins 5-2(3)

Yeah, MC is that good.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 22:02:52
April 27 2012 22:00 GMT
#50
If they play on EU (I think both are on EU atm? I could be wrong) MC will win 5-0 or 5-1. If they play on NA it might be close but still MC has the edge. Lets say 5-3 or 5-4. MC forcefields are just too good!
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
April 27 2012 22:06 GMT
#51
This is the first time one of these FC showmatches made me go "oh shit, what a match." I'm actually legitimately a little excited
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
April 27 2012 22:07 GMT
#52
On April 28 2012 06:46 Shackadeemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 06:43 1Eris1 wrote:
MC has never lost a game on vs Stephano, on either ladder or in a tournament

and the poll is 50/50....

never lost on ladder? How could you possibly know that? You're just trying to stir shit.

Actually, he's right.

When Stephano was in Korea 5 months ago, I used to see each session of his stream on korea ladder.

And he lost every time he played against MC... Except for this one time when MC accidentely picked random and ended up with zerg, this one, stephano won.

Anyway, you can see on Stephano match history that he's been practicing a lot with Bling and Mana these past 2 days (and winning most of the matchs), but they're miles away from MC in PvZ, so...I don't know.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
April 27 2012 22:08 GMT
#53
Siiiiiick. I can see it being a bit closer than their past encounters . Maybe 5-3 with MC winning, can't see it getting much closer than that.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1356 Posts
April 27 2012 22:14 GMT
#54
MC is the best PvZ player in the world along with Squirtle. Its going to be tough for Stephano
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 27 2012 22:23 GMT
#55
On April 28 2012 05:25 emis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 05:20 mordk wrote:
MC 5-0 Stephano

you really think it's gonna be that bad?

I hope so at least
drbrown
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden442 Posts
April 27 2012 22:33 GMT
#56
On April 28 2012 07:23 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 05:25 emis wrote:
On April 28 2012 05:20 mordk wrote:
MC 5-0 Stephano

you really think it's gonna be that bad?

I hope so at least


Why would you hope for a onesided showmatch, that's stupid
I'm probably being ironic
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 27 2012 22:36 GMT
#57
MC gonna mind trick Stephano, even though I think Stephano is overall better.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 22:39:04
April 27 2012 22:38 GMT
#58
On April 28 2012 06:46 Shackadeemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 06:43 1Eris1 wrote:
MC has never lost a game on vs Stephano, on either ladder or in a tournament

and the poll is 50/50....

never lost on ladder? How could you possibly know that? You're just trying to stir shit.



Nah, he played something like 3-4 games vs MC on the Korean ladder, MC won all of them. It's all over Stephano's fanclub. Otherwise, MC has won every tournament game they've played. Yeah I guess if MC has played on an alt or something like that but I highly doubt it, since he has his premier accounts.
And nah, just observing how biased/ridiculous some people are.

On April 28 2012 07:36 figq wrote:
MC gonna mind trick Stephano, even though I think Stephano is overall better.


Case and point.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
April 27 2012 22:39 GMT
#59
On April 28 2012 07:36 figq wrote:
MC gonna mind trick Stephano, even though I think Stephano is overall better.


You think Stephano is better than MC? Stephano has never beaten MC, and doesn't have a great record vs Koreans, especially Code S Koreans.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 27 2012 22:40 GMT
#60
On April 28 2012 07:38 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 07:36 figq wrote:
MC gonna mind trick Stephano, even though I think Stephano is overall better.
Case and point.
What exactly is your case? I didn't mean their 1-on-1.
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