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[IPL] FC15: MC vs Stephano - Page 19

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the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
April 29 2012 00:31 GMT
#361
On April 29 2012 09:30 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.

this exactly, i hate macro games where the players sit around and don't do jack shit 3/4 of the game.. i can do that in my plat league just fine and don't need to watch a progame doing the exact same shit.

this is so ignorant
Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
April 29 2012 00:31 GMT
#362
Is it just me, or is stream quality a lot lower than the usual?
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 00:32:01
April 29 2012 00:31 GMT
#363
On April 29 2012 09:31 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:30 sc14s wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.

this exactly, i hate macro games where the players sit around and don't do jack shit 3/4 of the game.. i can do that in my plat league just fine and don't need to watch a progame doing the exact same shit.

this is so ignorant

LOL orly? nice of you to expand upon that. How am i so ignorant? its fucking boring to watch a long ass macro game like that

User was warned for this post
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 29 2012 00:31 GMT
#364
On April 29 2012 09:30 TheRhox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.


Just because the observers missed it doesn't mean it never happened. There was plenty of harass that game

MC half assedly sending 5 zealots to stephano's fifth and one ling runby? That's not exactly "action packed" for a game that long. The map is a little bit at fault though.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
April 29 2012 00:32 GMT
#365
On April 29 2012 09:31 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:30 sc14s wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.

this exactly, i hate macro games where the players sit around and don't do jack shit 3/4 of the game.. i can do that in my plat league just fine and don't need to watch a progame doing the exact same shit.

this is so ignorant


Yeah, not even worth arguing with those kind of people I guess
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 29 2012 00:32 GMT
#366
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.

There was tons of shit
Stephano running lings into MC's main/natural
MC getting off like 10 feedbacks on the infestors, allowing him to kill Stephano's 5th
The constant fighting at the fourth

And don't say positional based games are bad, because it was beautiful. That's where I want SC2 to go.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
April 29 2012 00:32 GMT
#367
On April 29 2012 09:30 TheRhox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.


Just because the observers missed it doesn't mean it never happened. There was plenty of harass that game


4 lings getting into the main for 3 seconds doesn't count as harass
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 29 2012 00:32 GMT
#368
On April 29 2012 09:28 niteReloaded wrote:
Did MC play bad or did Stephano make him look bad? I don't watch sc2 regularly enough...

There was some sloppy moves from both sides (the infestors being feedbacked, the vortex on a single broodlord, even if it was positional was a mistake) imo. I would not say they played bad overall tho, just a little sloppily.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
April 29 2012 00:32 GMT
#369
On April 29 2012 09:31 Supah wrote:
Is it just me, or is stream quality a lot lower than the usual?


You have to purchase an IPL sub for 1080 quality
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 29 2012 00:33 GMT
#370
In that late game Toss have to start taxing the multitasking of Zerg. The Stalker contingent at the top was good, but storm drops, immortals/zealots to snipe tech structures, using the mothership to recall units etc are a necessity, otherwise BL Infestor will just roll you.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44462 Posts
April 29 2012 00:33 GMT
#371
On April 29 2012 09:30 obesemk wrote:
Stephano showing he is the better player.


The second that MC wins a game (regardless of how many Stephano's won beforehand), I hope the thread gets flooded with "MC showing he is the better player" just to balance the blatant Stephano fanboyism with actual common sense (see OP's poll).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
April 29 2012 00:34 GMT
#372
On April 29 2012 09:31 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:31 the`postman wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:30 sc14s wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.

this exactly, i hate macro games where the players sit around and don't do jack shit 3/4 of the game.. i can do that in my plat league just fine and don't need to watch a progame doing the exact same shit.

this is so ignorant

LOL orly? nice of you to expand upon that. How am i so ignorant? its fucking boring to watch a long ass macro game like that

You compared your plat league games to what we just watched, you clearly have no understanding of SC2.
Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
April 29 2012 00:34 GMT
#373
On April 29 2012 09:32 TheRhox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:31 Supah wrote:
Is it just me, or is stream quality a lot lower than the usual?


You have to purchase an IPL sub for 1080 quality


Erm. I have a sub and the max is only 720p+. Am I missing something?
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 29 2012 00:34 GMT
#374
On April 29 2012 09:33 MCDayC wrote:
In that late game Toss have to start taxing the multitasking of Zerg. The Stalker contingent at the top was good, but storm drops, immortals/zealots to snipe tech structures, using the mothership to recall units etc are a necessity, otherwise BL Infestor will just roll you.

this is what i meant why i didn't like this game as much. Multitasking is the way of the future for sc2 which honestly did not happen as much as it should have in the first game in such a late game situation.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 00:37:29
April 29 2012 00:35 GMT
#375
On April 29 2012 09:32 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.

There was tons of shit
Stephano running lings into MC's main/natural
MC getting off like 10 feedbacks on the infestors, allowing him to kill Stephano's 5th
The constant fighting at the fourth

And don't say positional based games are bad, because it was beautiful. That's where I want SC2 to go.

I don't mind it when position is a big component of the game. I've seen some TvT lately that were very similar to BW TvT. It's amazing to watch because there's a lot of little battles and multitasking going on at the same time. In PvZ late game it's almost as if there's no incentive to harass beyond a zealot warp in or sometimes the single warp prism in the late game. Either that or the players don't have enough imagination. In brood war you don't have to keep your armies clumped up in the same way as sc2 PvZ.

I guess I just find it very frustrating to watch when a game starts slowing down rather than becoming more intense the longer it goes by.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 29 2012 00:36 GMT
#376
On April 29 2012 09:34 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:31 sc14s wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:31 the`postman wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:30 sc14s wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.

this exactly, i hate macro games where the players sit around and don't do jack shit 3/4 of the game.. i can do that in my plat league just fine and don't need to watch a progame doing the exact same shit.

this is so ignorant

LOL orly? nice of you to expand upon that. How am i so ignorant? its fucking boring to watch a long ass macro game like that

You compared your plat league games to what we just watched, you clearly have no understanding of SC2.

orly? how would you know what my sc2 understanding is? you dont.
Not to mention apparently hyperbole is past your grasp of understanding..
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
April 29 2012 00:36 GMT
#377
MC's got this easily now.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
April 29 2012 00:36 GMT
#378
On April 29 2012 09:34 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 09:31 sc14s wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:31 the`postman wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:30 sc14s wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:29 hifriend wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:27 BuzZoo wrote:
People saying that was an awful game???
Really???

lol it was really bad.. endless posturing with no engagement. I hate it when sc2 games play out like this, when there's zero harassment and no splitting of armies, then a 5 second battle to close the 15 minute stalemate.

this exactly, i hate macro games where the players sit around and don't do jack shit 3/4 of the game.. i can do that in my plat league just fine and don't need to watch a progame doing the exact same shit.

this is so ignorant

LOL orly? nice of you to expand upon that. How am i so ignorant? its fucking boring to watch a long ass macro game like that

You compared your plat league games to what we just watched, you clearly have no understanding of SC2.


It was a pretty sloppy game with terrible vortexes, the zealot not on hold-position allowing a run-by, and the infestors all sitting at the watchtower getting feedbacked. The harass was mostly moving a few stalkers or lings into bases, not much multitasking/micro. Both players have played much better.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
April 29 2012 00:36 GMT
#379
Why would Stephano cancel all those spores
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
April 29 2012 00:37 GMT
#380
I have never seen a PvZ like this. So many void rays that are actually doing so well.
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