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On April 26 2012 01:25 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone. What? I didn't realize it's not okay to cheer against certain players. It happens in all sports. I like MKP but I understand those who don't. They're not cheering for his emotional distress, they're hoping for him to lose a SC2 set. It's not their fault if MKP ends up in tears (which is perfectly fine too, as he is passionate about winning). That's like saying we can't root against anyone who gets emotional after losses.
The fact that it is widespread does not make it any less counter-productive.
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On April 25 2012 22:18 Megabuster123 wrote:
If Protoss wins this GSL I foresee a lot of Terran balance qq'ing.
While there are no Zerg in Ro8? That would entirely be inappropriate, I would think.... :-)
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On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone.
I hate him b/c I hate Terrans and the way he plays Terran is the embodiment of why I hate them. I think that's fair.
And yes, I'm a zerg.
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On April 26 2012 01:28 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 01:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone. Lots of players play their heart out, and some people find it a bit immature when he cries every time he loses. Some people think he should man up. Granted, his emotions after a game don't mean he's a bad player inside of the game (unless it puts him on tilt, like perhaps what we saw today), but some people are put off when he acts that way. Some people. Some people might also say that MKP's bawling is much more about seeking attention (pity) than having a real reaction to his game results. Or that there are at least 50 players who work about as hard as MKP, and none of those players need to whimper after being eliminated from a tournament. My experience from watching BW (and most any other competition, really) is that Champions only cry when they win Championships.
You haven't watched many sports then. Even Messi just cried after the loss against Chelsea.
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On April 26 2012 02:09 Chunhyang wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 01:28 JWD wrote:On April 26 2012 01:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone. Lots of players play their heart out, and some people find it a bit immature when he cries every time he loses. Some people think he should man up. Granted, his emotions after a game don't mean he's a bad player inside of the game (unless it puts him on tilt, like perhaps what we saw today), but some people are put off when he acts that way. Some people. Some people might also say that MKP's bawling is much more about seeking attention (pity) than having a real reaction to his game results. Or that there are at least 50 players who work about as hard as MKP, and none of those players need to whimper after being eliminated from a tournament. My experience from watching BW (and most any other competition, really) is that Champions only cry when they win Championships. ![[image loading]](http://www.asparkstarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/mj.jpg) It's amazing how much people think they know about a person because he supposedly cries after a loss. And when did a "face to keyboard" or "massaging the eyes" become "crying" anyway? And actually rooting for a person to lose is ridiculously pathetic. It's like those guys who find joy in seeing a player injured. "I'm happy he got injured, he deserves it" they say. Haters will hate; but the attitude should really be left in the dustbin.
I feel there's a difference between being an anti-fan (because, say, you don't like the personality of a certain player), and actually hoping that bodily harm occurs. There are plenty of people who legitimately hope (either currently or in the past) that IdrA or Naniwa or some other players didn't succeed or were happy they lost Game X because of the things they said or the actions they took, and they weren't necessarily unjustified *simply by virtue of not liking the player*. Sometimes anti-fans have good reasons, and the emotional baggage and psychological tilt that MKP occasional displays can put some people off as well. That's not to say that I hope he loses an arm so that he can never play professionally ever again.
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[QUOTE]On April 26 2012 02:17 zestzorb wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 26 2012 01:28 JWD wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 26 2012 01:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet.[/QUOTE]
Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone.[/QUOTE]
Lots of players play their heart out, and some people find it a bit immature when he cries every time he loses. Some people think he should man up. Granted, his emotions after a game don't mean he's a bad player inside of the game (unless it puts him on tilt, like perhaps what we saw today), but some people are put off when he acts that way. Some people. [/QUOTE]
Some people might also say that MKP's bawling is much more about seeking attention (pity) than having a real reaction to his game results.
Or that there are at least 50 players who work about as hard as MKP, and none of those players need to whimper after being eliminated from a tournament.
My experience from watching BW (and most any other competition, really) is that Champions only cry when they win
You haven't watched many sports then. Even Messi just cried after the loss against Chelsea.[/QUOTE]
Mkp cries much more
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I feel sorry for MKP, I really feel like he deserved it. I kept my thumbs up for him all tournament. Congratulations to Parting and TaeJa!
What I find very odd is that people actually are judging players being "too emotional".
What is this, I don't even...
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On April 26 2012 02:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 02:09 Chunhyang wrote:On April 26 2012 01:28 JWD wrote:On April 26 2012 01:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone. Lots of players play their heart out, and some people find it a bit immature when he cries every time he loses. Some people think he should man up. Granted, his emotions after a game don't mean he's a bad player inside of the game (unless it puts him on tilt, like perhaps what we saw today), but some people are put off when he acts that way. Some people. Some people might also say that MKP's bawling is much more about seeking attention (pity) than having a real reaction to his game results. Or that there are at least 50 players who work about as hard as MKP, and none of those players need to whimper after being eliminated from a tournament. My experience from watching BW (and most any other competition, really) is that Champions only cry when they win Championships. It's amazing how much people think they know about a person because he supposedly cries after a loss. And when did a "face to keyboard" or "massaging the eyes" become "crying" anyway? And actually rooting for a person to lose is ridiculously pathetic. It's like those guys who find joy in seeing a player injured. "I'm happy he got injured, he deserves it" they say. Haters will hate; but the attitude should really be left in the dustbin. I feel there's a difference between being an anti-fan (because, say, you don't like the personality of a certain player), and actually hoping that bodily harm occurs. There are plenty of people who legitimately hope (either currently or in the past) that IdrA or Naniwa or some other players didn't succeed or were happy they lost Game X because of the things they said or the actions they took, and they weren't necessarily unjustified *simply by virtue of not liking the player*. Sometimes anti-fans have good reasons, and the emotional baggage and psychological tilt that MKP occasional displays can put some people off as well. That's not to say that I hope he loses an arm so that he can never play professionally ever again.
Touché, being an anti does definitely not mean that you want the player to literally be unhappy and hurt, just that you'd prefer other players to beat him, I think it's a pretty obvious difference.
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TAAAAEEEEEJJJJAAAAA!!!
Oh man, and I REALLY thought this code S was MKP's to win fo sho
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On April 26 2012 02:28 SeeKeR wrote:
TAAAAEEEEEJJJJAAAAA!!!
Oh man, and I REALLY thought this code S was MKP's to win fo sho
Since the fall of MVP/Nestea, each participant in the GSL at any stage seems to have only a slightly greater chance to win than 1/X, where X is the number of players remaining. So in the Ro8, I would say any "favoured" player has at best a 1/5 or 1/6 chance to win the season.
People don't really understand how close the skill gap is at the highest level.
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On April 26 2012 02:27 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 02:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 02:09 Chunhyang wrote:On April 26 2012 01:28 JWD wrote:On April 26 2012 01:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone. Lots of players play their heart out, and some people find it a bit immature when he cries every time he loses. Some people think he should man up. Granted, his emotions after a game don't mean he's a bad player inside of the game (unless it puts him on tilt, like perhaps what we saw today), but some people are put off when he acts that way. Some people. Some people might also say that MKP's bawling is much more about seeking attention (pity) than having a real reaction to his game results. Or that there are at least 50 players who work about as hard as MKP, and none of those players need to whimper after being eliminated from a tournament. My experience from watching BW (and most any other competition, really) is that Champions only cry when they win Championships. It's amazing how much people think they know about a person because he supposedly cries after a loss. And when did a "face to keyboard" or "massaging the eyes" become "crying" anyway? And actually rooting for a person to lose is ridiculously pathetic. It's like those guys who find joy in seeing a player injured. "I'm happy he got injured, he deserves it" they say. Haters will hate; but the attitude should really be left in the dustbin. I feel there's a difference between being an anti-fan (because, say, you don't like the personality of a certain player), and actually hoping that bodily harm occurs. There are plenty of people who legitimately hope (either currently or in the past) that IdrA or Naniwa or some other players didn't succeed or were happy they lost Game X because of the things they said or the actions they took, and they weren't necessarily unjustified *simply by virtue of not liking the player*. Sometimes anti-fans have good reasons, and the emotional baggage and psychological tilt that MKP occasional displays can put some people off as well. That's not to say that I hope he loses an arm so that he can never play professionally ever again. Touché, being an anti does definitely not mean that you want the player to literally be unhappy and hurt, just that you'd prefer other players to beat him, I think it's a pretty obvious difference.
Of course there's a difference. That's why I said it's 'like' a person wishing for the injury of a player. When you are happy that a person is injured so he fails, you're the same as the haters. The common thread is that you wish that the person fails at doing what he does. That he [MKP] doesn't succeed at his profession and never does.
To wish bodily injury on a person solely because you want him to suffer physical harm, like what you're describing, is whole different level of despicable.
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On April 26 2012 02:31 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 02:28 SeeKeR wrote:
TAAAAEEEEEJJJJAAAAA!!!
Oh man, and I REALLY thought this code S was MKP's to win fo sho People don't really understand how close the skill gap is at the highest level.
Or how volatile a game SC2 really is.
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On April 26 2012 02:37 Lann555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 02:31 SeaSwift wrote:On April 26 2012 02:28 SeeKeR wrote:
TAAAAEEEEEJJJJAAAAA!!!
Oh man, and I REALLY thought this code S was MKP's to win fo sho People don't really understand how close the skill gap is at the highest level. Or how volatile a game SC2 really is.
As I said, this is only the case since Nestea/MVP dominated. The very fact that they did dominate proves that SC2 is not necessarily volatile.
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There's quite a difference between losing the final or even a semi-final than during group play. MKP cries after every loss. It's hard to feel sorry for him after that kind of desensitisation.
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On April 26 2012 02:36 Chunhyang wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 02:27 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 26 2012 02:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 02:09 Chunhyang wrote:On April 26 2012 01:28 JWD wrote:On April 26 2012 01:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone. Lots of players play their heart out, and some people find it a bit immature when he cries every time he loses. Some people think he should man up. Granted, his emotions after a game don't mean he's a bad player inside of the game (unless it puts him on tilt, like perhaps what we saw today), but some people are put off when he acts that way. Some people. Some people might also say that MKP's bawling is much more about seeking attention (pity) than having a real reaction to his game results. Or that there are at least 50 players who work about as hard as MKP, and none of those players need to whimper after being eliminated from a tournament. My experience from watching BW (and most any other competition, really) is that Champions only cry when they win Championships. It's amazing how much people think they know about a person because he supposedly cries after a loss. And when did a "face to keyboard" or "massaging the eyes" become "crying" anyway? And actually rooting for a person to lose is ridiculously pathetic. It's like those guys who find joy in seeing a player injured. "I'm happy he got injured, he deserves it" they say. Haters will hate; but the attitude should really be left in the dustbin. I feel there's a difference between being an anti-fan (because, say, you don't like the personality of a certain player), and actually hoping that bodily harm occurs. There are plenty of people who legitimately hope (either currently or in the past) that IdrA or Naniwa or some other players didn't succeed or were happy they lost Game X because of the things they said or the actions they took, and they weren't necessarily unjustified *simply by virtue of not liking the player*. Sometimes anti-fans have good reasons, and the emotional baggage and psychological tilt that MKP occasional displays can put some people off as well. That's not to say that I hope he loses an arm so that he can never play professionally ever again. Touché, being an anti does definitely not mean that you want the player to literally be unhappy and hurt, just that you'd prefer other players to beat him, I think it's a pretty obvious difference. Of course there's a difference. That's why I said it's 'like' a person wishing for the injury of a player. When you are happy that a person is injured so he fails, you're the same as the haters. The common thread is that you wish that the person fails at doing what he does. That he [MKP] doesn't succeed at his profession and never does. To wish bodily injury on a person solely because you want him to suffer physical harm, like what you're describing, is whole different level of despicable.
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So to root against the Heat and LeBron James is wrong as well? Because we're hoping he doesn't succeed at his profession?
You can't have fan without anti-fan. When you root for one player you are rooting against the other.
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lol @ MKP choking! so glad parting made it through :-) Protoss needs time in the sun too.
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On April 26 2012 02:44 Jathin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 01:28 JWD wrote:On April 26 2012 01:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone. Lots of players play their heart out, and some people find it a bit immature when he cries every time he loses. Some people think he should man up. Granted, his emotions after a game don't mean he's a bad player inside of the game (unless it puts him on tilt, like perhaps what we saw today), but some people are put off when he acts that way. Some people. Some people might also say that MKP's bawling is much more about seeking attention (pity) than having a real reaction to his game results. Or that there are at least 50 players who work about as hard as MKP, and none of those players need to whimper after being eliminated from a tournament. My experience from watching BW (and most any other competition, really) is that Champions only cry when they win Championships. See: Boxer vs. Iloveoov EVER 2004 OSL Grand Final when oov beats boxer 3-2 in a close series. ![[image loading]](http://boxerforever.com/images/img_memorable1.jpg)
Yeah... because an established bonjwa at the time losing the OSL Grand Final 3-2 to his mentee and next bonjwa is the same as someone who never won losing in the group stages of GSL Ro16.
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On April 26 2012 02:52 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 02:36 Chunhyang wrote:On April 26 2012 02:27 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 26 2012 02:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 02:09 Chunhyang wrote:On April 26 2012 01:28 JWD wrote:On April 26 2012 01:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 26 2012 00:53 Lastbil wrote:On April 26 2012 00:46 zerglingrodeo wrote:
It was really really hard to be a Marineking anti-fan for the last couple of months.
Today was so sweet. Comments like these make me want to throw up. This guy, despite having had by far the best results so far in 2012, is still being called out by everyone saying he needs to win a GSL. You can see how hard he tries, and how emotionally crushed he was after the defeats. If that makes you happy, something is wrong. I, personally, dont get the whole thing of rooting against someone. Lots of players play their heart out, and some people find it a bit immature when he cries every time he loses. Some people think he should man up. Granted, his emotions after a game don't mean he's a bad player inside of the game (unless it puts him on tilt, like perhaps what we saw today), but some people are put off when he acts that way. Some people. Some people might also say that MKP's bawling is much more about seeking attention (pity) than having a real reaction to his game results. Or that there are at least 50 players who work about as hard as MKP, and none of those players need to whimper after being eliminated from a tournament. My experience from watching BW (and most any other competition, really) is that Champions only cry when they win Championships. It's amazing how much people think they know about a person because he supposedly cries after a loss. And when did a "face to keyboard" or "massaging the eyes" become "crying" anyway? And actually rooting for a person to lose is ridiculously pathetic. It's like those guys who find joy in seeing a player injured. "I'm happy he got injured, he deserves it" they say. Haters will hate; but the attitude should really be left in the dustbin. I feel there's a difference between being an anti-fan (because, say, you don't like the personality of a certain player), and actually hoping that bodily harm occurs. There are plenty of people who legitimately hope (either currently or in the past) that IdrA or Naniwa or some other players didn't succeed or were happy they lost Game X because of the things they said or the actions they took, and they weren't necessarily unjustified *simply by virtue of not liking the player*. Sometimes anti-fans have good reasons, and the emotional baggage and psychological tilt that MKP occasional displays can put some people off as well. That's not to say that I hope he loses an arm so that he can never play professionally ever again. Touché, being an anti does definitely not mean that you want the player to literally be unhappy and hurt, just that you'd prefer other players to beat him, I think it's a pretty obvious difference. Of course there's a difference. That's why I said it's 'like' a person wishing for the injury of a player. When you are happy that a person is injured so he fails, you're the same as the haters. The common thread is that you wish that the person fails at doing what he does. That he [MKP] doesn't succeed at his profession and never does. To wish bodily injury on a person solely because you want him to suffer physical harm, like what you're describing, is whole different level of despicable. ?? So to root against the Heat and LeBron James is wrong as well? Because we're hoping he doesn't succeed at his profession? You can't have fan without anti-fan. When you root for one player you are rooting against the other.
That's pretty ingenuous. There's a difference between rooting for the failure of one and rooting for the success of another. You know this.
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