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Friday, Apr 20 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU: Friday, Apr 20 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Rooting for Crazy, DeMu, Hero, and Sjow!
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TvZ is so scary and lopsided on Ohana.... Going to be interesting to see how it works out!
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the awesomenss of today's games are pretty underrated
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CrazyMoving > Ryung
Hero > Dima (Prove me wrong Dimaga, I really want you to win!)
Hasu > Sjow
Demuslim > DarkForce
Bam. You heard it here first.
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CM 2-1 Ryung
Hero 2-0 Dimaga
SjoW 2-1 Hasu
Demuslim 2-0 DF
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i want dimaga to win so badly! and i think darkforce will win over demuslim actually
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Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC)
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Ryung, Hero, Sjow, Demuslim I think. Could be Crazymoving > Ryung. SlayerS terran vs. Z, Hero in any PvZ basically, Sjow is good, and Demuslim's best matchup is vZ nowadays.
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On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC)
I disagree. He suffered alot of losses to Violet, lost to Nerchio at HSC, GSLspoiler+ Show Spoiler +. Sure, he has a cool style, he's good at the matchup, however he really hasn't done anything to earn the distinction of even "arguably" best PvZ. Unlike MC who is 25-3 in PvZ this year not losing a single series.
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CrazyMoving 2-1 Ryung
Hero 2-0 DIMAGA (Although I reallllly want DIMAGA to win, I don't think he will T_T)
SjoW 2-1 HasuObs (My gut is telling me that SjoW will win)
DeMusliM 2-1 DarkForce
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Hero vs Dimaga whaaaaaaaa
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CrazyMovING 400+ APM fightin!
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On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC)
MC has the best PvZ. For example, MC and Hero were both on IPL fight club, and both had a Bo9 against Violet. Hero fought a close series but lost 4-5, whereas MC crushed Violet 5-1. Hero's good, but MC's the best Protoss 
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Crazymoving and Hero fighting. Honestly after today's performances, if Hero has prepared at all I dont expect Dima to get a game off him. As for Crazymoving, its like hero was, only a matter of time till he hits it big. Might start now. And if it does, god help ryung. That said his ZvT always looked weaker than his other matchups
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Darkforce > DeMuslim
Ryung > Crazymoving
Hero > Dimaga
HasuObs > Sjow
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Ryung>crazymoving
Hero>dimaga
Hasuobs>sjow
Darkforce>demuslim.
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I need a HerOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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this should be awesome
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On April 20 2012 04:48 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC) MC has the best PvZ. For example, MC and Hero were both on IPL fight club, and both had a Bo9 against Violet. Hero fought a close series but lost 4-5, whereas MC crushed Violet 5-1. Hero's good, but MC's the best Protoss
Mc is not the best protoss.... Parting has a much better PvT and Oz has a better PvP. MC is good yes, but all around he isn't the best.
Edit: There is no "Best" of anything, you cannot prove it and simply looking at match history doesn't mean anything especially if you are looking at games from months ago. There are like 5 really good toss right now and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
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On April 20 2012 09:45 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 04:48 Bagration wrote:On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC) MC has the best PvZ. For example, MC and Hero were both on IPL fight club, and both had a Bo9 against Violet. Hero fought a close series but lost 4-5, whereas MC crushed Violet 5-1. Hero's good, but MC's the best Protoss Mc is not the best protoss.... Parting has a much better PvT and Oz has a better PvP. MC is good yes, but all around he isn't the best. Edit: There is no "Best" of anything, you cannot prove it and simply looking at match history doesn't mean anything especially if you are looking at games from months ago. There are like 5 really good toss right now and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
Well, that's the problem with anointing any of those players with the title. The "best protoss in the world" should not have a weak matchup at all, especially now.
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On April 20 2012 09:45 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 04:48 Bagration wrote:On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC) MC has the best PvZ. For example, MC and Hero were both on IPL fight club, and both had a Bo9 against Violet. Hero fought a close series but lost 4-5, whereas MC crushed Violet 5-1. Hero's good, but MC's the best Protoss Mc is not the best protoss.... Parting has a much better PvT and Oz has a better PvP. MC is good yes, but all around he isn't the best. Edit: There is no "Best" of anything, you cannot prove it and simply looking at match history doesn't mean anything especially if you are looking at games from months ago. There are like 5 really good toss right now and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
ur statement is contradictory no? imo mc is the best all around player but like u said there are better pvt and pvp'ers than him, his pvt isnt that far behind partings lvl and i dunno about who the best pvper is.. hes definatly one of the better pvz'ers
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On April 20 2012 09:45 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 04:48 Bagration wrote:On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC) MC has the best PvZ. For example, MC and Hero were both on IPL fight club, and both had a Bo9 against Violet. Hero fought a close series but lost 4-5, whereas MC crushed Violet 5-1. Hero's good, but MC's the best Protoss Mc is not the best protoss.... Parting has a much better PvT and Oz has a better PvP. MC is good yes, but all around he isn't the best. Edit: There is no "Best" of anything, you cannot prove it and simply looking at match history doesn't mean anything especially if you are looking at games from months ago. There are like 5 really good toss right now and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
Ah, should have chosen my words better. Right now there isn't a Protoss who is clearly the best in the world at this point in time, that I agree with you. Oz and Inca probably have better PvP, and PartinG probably has better PvT.
But I admit that I just didn't have just skill in mind when I made that post. MC is the most accomplished Protoss right now by long shot. No other Protoss has won a GSL, whereas MC already has 2. Even recently he won IEM WC, and there hasn't been another Protoss that has won a premier tournament (as defined by Liquipedia) in 2012 other than MC.
He sits on the top of the SC2 earnings ($277k), and the next highest protoss Huk has earned roughly 25% of what MC has made in his career. While Protosses have come and gone throughout the months, since the Open Seasons there has been MC. He is the Protoss President, and in that regard, he is the greatest.
Back on topic: Go Ryung!
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On April 20 2012 09:55 mTwTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:45 Yamulo wrote:On April 20 2012 04:48 Bagration wrote:On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC) MC has the best PvZ. For example, MC and Hero were both on IPL fight club, and both had a Bo9 against Violet. Hero fought a close series but lost 4-5, whereas MC crushed Violet 5-1. Hero's good, but MC's the best Protoss Mc is not the best protoss.... Parting has a much better PvT and Oz has a better PvP. MC is good yes, but all around he isn't the best. Edit: There is no "Best" of anything, you cannot prove it and simply looking at match history doesn't mean anything especially if you are looking at games from months ago. There are like 5 really good toss right now and they all have their strengths and weaknesses. ur statement is contradictory no? imo mc is the best all around player but like u said there are better pvt and pvp'ers than him, his pvt isnt that far behind partings lvl and i dunno about who the best pvper is.. hes definatly one of the better pvz'ers
Just saw the rerun from yesterday - Well played sir!
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bitterdam ftw! good night of games inc.
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More people should be watching this. They are missing out.
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Ryung, Hero, SjoW, and DeMuslim ftw ^^
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3/3 marines vs 2/0 everything...not hard to see how that would turn out.
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That wasn't MMA level TvZ, but it was enough. 3-3 marines when the Zerg is far behind in upgrades will almost always win the game
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hey cool this is live ^^
a bit sad how viewers have dropped off from week 1 - it's still as awesome!
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On April 20 2012 10:19 Bayyne wrote:
More people should be watching this. They are missing out.
Indeed, but there are a lot of good streamers on atm and MCSL with IPL that has a lot of viewers and started earlier.
I am enjoying NASL, it's totally awesome and hope more people will realize that. :-)
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People may not be that amped for the first match. Tell your friends HerO and Demuslim fighting!
Man these guys are what 10 minute YouTube highlight clips are made of.
(Paraphrasing) Mr. Bitter "Crazymoving moving around the map, not sure what he's doing!)
Rotterdam: "Crazymoving is moving crazy"
lol
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On April 20 2012 10:30 DeathProfessor wrote:
People may not be that amped for the first match. Tell your friends HerO and Demuslim fighting!
Man these guys are what 10 minute YouTube highlight clips are made of.
(Paraphrasing) Mr. Bitter "Crazymoving moving around the map, not sure what he's doing!)
Rotterdam: "Crazymoving is moving crazy"
lol
I remember HerO v CrazyMoving in the GSL Code A a few season's back. Wolf went completely and utterly overboard with it.
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Loving NASL so far. Mr Bitter and Rotterdam are awesome!
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Seriously - make up your mind about the healthbars.
Leave them on or off but don't alternate every 3 seconds or so.
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Hooray for the forgotten son!
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Ryung totally dismantled CrazyMoving.
Well played!
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what map version is this, LE?... bases near the towers gave 8m 2g ... or it looks like
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Ryung 2-0, Hero 2-0, Demuslim 2-1 Sjow 2-1
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The order from the OP to the live broadcast has change, right? Gogoog DeMusliM! Also, this needs more views.
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Shout out to Diggity!!! Woooo!!! ♥
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This tournament's production has really improved. I hope they continue to add seasons to the NASL
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was Hero's match played live?
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NASL deserves more viewers, it has improved a lot, way more funnier when bitterdam is on.
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Yeah I hope it gets required attention and viewers.I like new casters very much.But I cant watch gretorp no offense
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is hero vs dimaga still next? just got back.
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On April 20 2012 10:54 Olinim wrote:
is hero vs dimaga still next? just got back.
Nope, Darkforce vs DeMuslim is next.
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What the fuck Rotterdamn, rofl
Mrbitter benchpressing 30 pounds and "puffing like he's giving birth to a baby"
That was a pretty awesome story
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LOLOLOL Rotterdam's stories are on fireeeeeee
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Bitterdam Getting into a Sumo match. They put on the fat suits and go at it.
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What happened to hero's match?
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On April 20 2012 10:56 _Darwin_ wrote:
lol...
LMFAO I read your lol then your sig. Fucking genius.
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On April 20 2012 10:57 Jisall wrote:
Bitterdam Getting into a Sumo match. They put on the fat suits and go at it.
lol that would be so awesome and deserving of the name Sunday Showdown.
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Rotti talking that smack, lololol, I love it.
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On April 20 2012 02:37 MrBitter wrote:
CrazyMoving > Ryung
Hero > Dima (Prove me wrong Dimaga, I really want you to win!)
Hasu > Sjow
Demuslim > DarkForce
Bam. You heard it here first.
I find it funny and awesome at the same time that Bitter is putting up NASL predictions here. :D
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the 1080p looks really good btw - First time I've paid for NASL and so far, its definitely worth it - No lag in Denmark which is Twitch.tv's worst country in Europe in terms of data distribution (According to Twitch COO on The Executives)
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All eyes on DeMusliM was the greatest show, oh my god I loved it... Good times.
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On April 20 2012 11:03 MCDayC wrote:
All eyes on DeMusliM was the greatest show, oh my god I loved it... Good times.
Aye, that was awesome.. The karaoke sessions were pretty damn funny
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PG 18 LOL i love rotti <3
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They should put the hp bars always on. This isn't the Day9 Daily for casuals, these are competetive games and they should as give as much information as possible.
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T_T wtf with those Hellions, come on Demu.
Again, what is going on. Normally its decision making under pressure which hurts demuslim, his mechanics are generally tip top.
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I hate 3 hatch hive rush. Just delay your hive and take a fourth so you don't have to put all your eggs in one basket.
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Okay good, standard badass TvZ from Demuslim, after the initial wobbles.
Oh hi Cosmic ^^
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man im lovin bitterdamn doing the nasl!
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focused too much on getting out hive units, then never got a 4th ;/
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6 is walking? what the fuck kind of walk
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6mph is most definitely not a walking speed... lol
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At some point we're gonna have to get some Bitterdam greatest tangents and stories, like the old Tastosis ones, some of the banter has been worthy of documentation.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
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Oh by the way guys, SeeKeR is in this thread, you may not have noticed, he's kinda quiet about it.
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On April 20 2012 11:22 MCDayC wrote:
Oh by the way guys, SeeKeR is in this thread, you may not have noticed, he's kinda quiet about it.
Who?
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On April 20 2012 11:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 11:22 MCDayC wrote:
Oh by the way guys, SeeKeR is in this thread, you may not have noticed, he's kinda quiet about it. Who?
hehehe
T_T, what is it with DeMuslim and loosing the early game units, hellions, then banshee, then hellions again.
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I had only seen bits and pieces of Bitterdam cast before, but they are amazing. They've transformed NASL in my eyes. I would watch them cast silver league games. Their chemistry & storytelling is so much fun! So much <3.
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Did the scrolling text at the bottom just spoil the winner? I could have sworn I saw a score posted
spoiler of what was scrolling at the bottom
+ Show Spoiler +
edit: that wouldn't make sense since these are live? O_o
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This style of Terran is designed to counter ling infestor, but it's so damn greedy. Bitterdam has it - Zergs have to punish this; you don't go into mid-game with Terran being that greedy unpunished.
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On April 20 2012 11:29 spbelky wrote:Did the scrolling text at the bottom just spoil the winner? I could have sworn I saw a score posted spoiler of what was scrolling at the bottom + Show Spoiler +edit: that wouldn't make sense since these are live? O_o
I thought the scrolling text were something akin to twitter messages from fans. Maybe it was just some fan's prediction? One of the other scrolling text messages was someone saying they were a pilot IRL and they would be a viking pilot in game.
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On April 20 2012 11:29 spbelky wrote:Did the scrolling text at the bottom just spoil the winner? I could have sworn I saw a score posted spoiler of what was scrolling at the bottom + Show Spoiler +edit: that wouldn't make sense since these are live? O_o
The game is being played live, so I'd be impressed if that was a spoiler
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These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am.
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Darkforce has looked pretty bad in this NASL.
On April 20 2012 11:32 Champloo wrote:
These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am.
He knew what he was getting into. He could've always rescheduled to play the morning before the matches were broadcast.
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On April 20 2012 11:32 Champloo wrote:
These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am.
Yeah the times are brutal for European players, could not be any worse.
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On April 20 2012 11:32 Champloo wrote:
These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am.
Ya I only caught the tail end of it, must have been a fan prediction. Well, if it was a fan prediction, they were wrong 
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On April 20 2012 11:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Darkforce has looked pretty bad in this NASL. Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 11:32 Champloo wrote:
These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am. He knew what he was getting into. He could've always rescheduled to play the morning before the matches were broadcast.
Bitterdam talk alot about how good he is, but I've never seen the hype, bar the legendary NASL Season 1 finals games vs Alive.
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On April 20 2012 11:30 Azarkon wrote:
This style of Terran is designed to counter ling infestor, but it's so damn greedy. Bitterdam has it - Zergs have to punish this; you don't go into mid-game with Terran being that greedy unpunished.
Darkforce and mid-game aggression are like oil and water.
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On April 20 2012 11:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Darkforce has looked pretty bad in this NASL. Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 11:32 Champloo wrote:
These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am. He knew what he was getting into. He could've always rescheduled to play the morning before the matches were broadcast.
Pretty sure he would have if he could have.
There is no way anyone is playing voluntarily at this time.
Btw I am not trying to find "excuses" or whatever, I would bet Darkforce would have lost anyway.
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would someone fix rotterdam's tie already goddamn
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What is the origin for the id Mr Bitter? It does not seem to fit. Mr Bitter always seems the opposite of bitter, whenever I see him cast. Is it an ironic title?
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On April 20 2012 11:35 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 11:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Darkforce has looked pretty bad in this NASL. On April 20 2012 11:32 Champloo wrote:
These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am. He knew what he was getting into. He could've always rescheduled to play the morning before the matches were broadcast. Pretty sure he would have if he could have. There is no way anyone is playing voluntarily at this time. Btw I am not trying to find "excuses" or whatever, I would bet Darkforce would have lost anyway.
NASL allows players to reschedule their matches so that they can avoid cancellations and complications.
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Damn these interviews are fucking awesome, better than anything I've seen in any league, NASL is the bomb. I may have to buy a ticket after all.
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Why do they turn around for the interview? They are turning their backs to Demuslim as well as turning their back to us.
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On April 20 2012 11:29 spbelky wrote:Did the scrolling text at the bottom just spoil the winner? I could have sworn I saw a score posted spoiler of what was scrolling at the bottom + Show Spoiler +edit: that wouldn't make sense since these are live? O_o
Was probably NASL showing someone's prediction of how that series would go.
Edit: woops quoted wrong post
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On April 20 2012 11:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 11:35 Redox wrote:On April 20 2012 11:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Darkforce has looked pretty bad in this NASL. On April 20 2012 11:32 Champloo wrote:
These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am. He knew what he was getting into. He could've always rescheduled to play the morning before the matches were broadcast. Pretty sure he would have if he could have. There is no way anyone is playing voluntarily at this time. Btw I am not trying to find "excuses" or whatever, I would bet Darkforce would have lost anyway. NASL allows players to reschedule their matches so that they can avoid cancellations and complications.
If he could simply play at another time he would not tweet
I will play Demuslim live for NASL in about 30 minutes. Yay for having to play at 4 AM..... -_-
I guess you need to have a special reason or similar for rescheduling.
Again, if this was just choice NOONE would play at that time.
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why do they keep postponing hero/dima?? It's the only reason I've been sticking around today! Although I have to admit the interview with demu was pretty entertaining.
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I am liking the NA update and the similar cut ins. A nice alternative to downtime. Well done NASL!
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They said that Hero/Dimaga was going to be the last match near the start of the broadcast.
I think these posts should be made with the actual schedule in mind from now on.
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On April 20 2012 11:44 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 11:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 20 2012 11:35 Redox wrote:On April 20 2012 11:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Darkforce has looked pretty bad in this NASL. On April 20 2012 11:32 Champloo wrote:
These games are played live, Darkforce already posted on twitter that he had to play at 4 am. He knew what he was getting into. He could've always rescheduled to play the morning before the matches were broadcast. Pretty sure he would have if he could have. There is no way anyone is playing voluntarily at this time. Btw I am not trying to find "excuses" or whatever, I would bet Darkforce would have lost anyway. NASL allows players to reschedule their matches so that they can avoid cancellations and complications. If he could simply play at another time he would not tweet Show nested quote +I will play Demuslim live for NASL in about 30 minutes. Yay for having to play at 4 AM..... -_- I guess you need to have a special reason or similar for rescheduling.
I don't see what special reasoning you need other than a disparity in time zones. Thorzain vs Alicia was casted off of replays because of that. If Demuslim and Darkforce couldn't compromise on the time that's unfortunate but that's all it is, unfortunate.
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RotterdaM singing Banelings, lmao.
Shame on your MrBitter for not knowing Banelings.
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hmm, we are given set times to play, i didn't get contacted, and i'm not sure you can even reschedule unless there's a major tournament in the way according to the rule sets we were given.
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On April 20 2012 11:58 DeMusliM wrote:
hmm, we are given set times to play, i didn't get contacted, and i'm not sure you can even reschedule unless there's a major tournament in the way according to the rule sets we were given.
Good luck in the rest of the competition. You and Bling are flying the flag for British SC2! It is a shame it is too late to get SC2 into the Olympics though!
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On April 20 2012 11:58 DeMusliM wrote:
hmm, we are given set times to play, i didn't get contacted, and i'm not sure you can even reschedule unless there's a major tournament in the way according to the rule sets we were given.
Well my mistake then. o_O
I could swear that NASL changed their policy on that. During their earlier seasons they had so many problems with forfeits just because the scheduling was too late/early for players.
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y does hasuobs look so cute in his nasl pic
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On April 20 2012 12:03 mTwTT1 wrote:
y does hasuobs look so cute in his nasl pic
It's the headphones and the smile.
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On April 20 2012 12:04 Hulavuta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:03 mTwTT1 wrote:
y does hasuobs look so cute in his nasl pic It's the headphones and the smile.
he looks much skinnier tho
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On April 20 2012 12:05 mTwTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:04 Hulavuta wrote:On April 20 2012 12:03 mTwTT1 wrote:
y does hasuobs look so cute in his nasl pic It's the headphones and the smile. he looks much skinnier tho
Now that you mention it...I think so too. I didn't notice it earlier, I was mainly focusing on his head and remembering how somebody called him the "German Sheldon".
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Dafuq am I reading in the announcements bar?
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On April 20 2012 12:08 Ranir wrote:
Tom cruise!
KICK THE TIRES AND LIGHT THE FIRES
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Ha oh damn, sick force fields from Hasu!
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SjoW, you gotta win this one for me, your "kid"
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Hasu fighting, go kill the terran
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HasuObs still remembers how to 4 gate? This I gotta watch.
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imagine if i did hasu's build, the internet would explode
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Nice. That's why you don't get greedy!
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Nice mind games. Who knew Hasu would bring the cheddar in a deciding game?
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If it's a KR vs KR do they play it on the KR server?
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On April 20 2012 12:29 mTwTT1 wrote:
imagine if i did hasu's build, the internet would explode
Haters gonna hate, 4-gaters gonna 4-gate
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On April 20 2012 12:30 Shadow_Dog wrote:
If it's a KR vs KR do they play it on the KR server?
If it's from Replys. Why not?
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On the countdown screen with the timer on it, the 1/10th of a second digit only counts down from 2-1-0-2-1-0 etc. This has bugged me since NASL season 1 .
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This music in between games always makes me think of Invader Zim.
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On April 20 2012 12:30 woody60707 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:30 Shadow_Dog wrote:
If it's a KR vs KR do they play it on the KR server? If it's from Replys. Why not?
Most KR vs KR have been live, since it's at like 10 AM there, and have been played on NA. Xeris said they are looking into getting them played on KR.
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TT1, Demu all the pros in dis here thread *fans self*
lol I have never seen this photo before this is a random unrelated photo that kind of happens to go with todays events.
![[image loading]](http://www6.pic-upload.de/20.01.11/ob34z52mf4ct.jpg)
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On April 20 2012 12:32 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:30 woody60707 wrote:On April 20 2012 12:30 Shadow_Dog wrote:
If it's a KR vs KR do they play it on the KR server? If it's from Replys. Why not? Most KR vs KR have been live, since it's at like 10 AM there, and have been played on NA. Xeris said they are looking into getting them played on KR.
Oh sorry, I didn't know.
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HerO is so good. I don't understand how he is being this effective.
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On April 20 2012 12:41 McFeser wrote:
HerO is so good. I don't understand how he is being this effective.
+1 zealots vs 0-0 lings? lol
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sick probe kill to free up supply for sentry
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"He killed the probe?" --massive supply block
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On April 20 2012 12:42 mTwTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:41 McFeser wrote:
HerO is so good. I don't understand how he is being this effective. +1 zealots vs 0-0 lings? lol
Didn't they say he didn't have plus one? Cause it makes perfect sense with +1!
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On April 20 2012 12:43 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:42 mTwTT1 wrote:On April 20 2012 12:41 McFeser wrote:
HerO is so good. I don't understand how he is being this effective. +1 zealots vs 0-0 lings? lol Didn't they say he didn't have plus one? Cause it makes perfect sense with +1!
They did not have +1 i think edit: im pretty sure, +2 just finished and another weapon reseach finished after nexus cancel
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Wow, this game.. HerO so nuts vs Zerg
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United States15275 Posts
Did MC tell Hero about Dimaga's style? His response was awfully perfect.
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ling baneling is so cost effective >_<
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hero has low supply because he's aggressively expanding everytime.
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Remember though - Dimaga lost 7 brood lords to carelessness... Add 7 brood lords to his army and think about what position he was in.
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Hero deserved that for moving onto creep without an obs =/
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United States15275 Posts
LOL did he think Dimaga would let him just walk up that ramp?
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ok dimaga usually goes into super turtle mode in these type of games, brace urself for a long one
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On April 20 2012 12:54 mTwTT1 wrote:
ok dimaga usually goes into super turtle mode in these type of games, brace urself for a long one
so true -_- dimaga late game ZvP turns into a snorefest too often
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Hero is building the perfect army though, I don't think Dimaga made the right call there. Get NP against that army, Dimaga.
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On April 20 2012 12:56 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:54 mTwTT1 wrote:
ok dimaga usually goes into super turtle mode in these type of games, brace urself for a long one so true -_- dimaga late game ZvP turns into a snorefest too often
hes too lazy to split his units against vortex so he just never attacks : D
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DIMAGA giving HerO way too much time. HerO remakes, his army comp is much better than DIMAGA's T_T
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WTF? Lol. Hey let's trade locations on the map.
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lolol hes definitely gonna turtle until hero attacks him now
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Sickest base trade, DIMAGA is as confused as Bitterdam.
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This is crazy!. How did this happen?
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use blink stalkers to take out Dima last base and recall
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On April 20 2012 13:02 MosART wrote:
use blink stalkers to take out Dima last base and recall
No body seems to ever do this =\
Zerg literally can't do shit about it except attack and hope the missing energy on the mothership will let them win.
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On April 20 2012 12:56 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:54 mTwTT1 wrote:
ok dimaga usually goes into super turtle mode in these type of games, brace urself for a long one so true -_- dimaga late game ZvP turns into a snorefest too often
He usually wins them though so whatever works for him, he'll do it.
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This must be the lamest ZvP I've ever watched...
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Dima typical plays against protoss
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On April 20 2012 13:05 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 12:56 Tachion wrote:On April 20 2012 12:54 mTwTT1 wrote:
ok dimaga usually goes into super turtle mode in these type of games, brace urself for a long one so true -_- dimaga late game ZvP turns into a snorefest too often He usually wins them though so whatever works for him, he'll do it.
ofc hes gonna win, hero is gonna get bored and hell end up attacking into dimagas fortress and he'll get owned
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Dimaga's early-midgame zvp is usually pretty interesting but man, his lategame play is so painful to watch.
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hero has 0 fucking gas he may be screwed T_T
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You know, I would start putting up nexis just for the gas. I mean you have the mins.
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This is funny. Hero's out of gas and don't want to attack, and Dimaga refuses to attack.
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zealots actually buffer broodlords insanely well and vs ultras obviously
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This may be the longest game ever that wasn't completely boring.
At least I'm still enjoying it. (OK its getting a little boring)
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On April 20 2012 13:07 woody60707 wrote:
What are they doing?
It's Dimaga's trademark mass spines with broodlords floating on top. Nothing happens for half an hour, until the protoss finally loses patience and attacks to lose the game.
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Is Hero's plan to get into a big fight then remax instantly on zealots or something?
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I normally agree with bitter but I think his analysis of this game is completely wrong. Dimaga is playing this perfectly. Broodlord infestor ultra queen spine always wins against protoss if you starve them out without a massive disadvantage. This is one of the best played games i've seen from dimaga, even though it's quite boring. He has had incredibly good decision making.
Also, hero has been very sloppy with losing units that cost gas when he's being starved. He's playing completely into dimaga's hand.
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Damn, putting up a crap load of gates.
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Dimaga gonna slowly wear Hero down it seems.
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HerO should really retake Dimaga's original bases, just for the gas. Whats a couple nexi with his bank?
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Dimaga needs to build hatches
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Hero can't realistically win at this point unless diamaga messes up.
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Dirty Dozen
Apocolypse Now
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On April 20 2012 13:10 SiguR wrote:
I normally agree with bitter but I think his analysis of this game is completely wrong. Dimaga is playing this perfectly. Broodlord infestor ultra queen spine always wins against protoss if you starve them out without a massive disadvantage. This is one of the best played games i've seen from dimaga, even though it's quite boring. He has had incredibly good decision making.
Also, hero has been very sloppy with losing units that cost gas when he's being starved. He's playing completely into dimaga's hand.
Does lack of decision making count as decision making?
Ugh, I know, I know it's a good way to take a sure win, but somehow some way, this style needs to die.
Also: Inglourious Basterds, Master and Commander, Saving Private Ryan
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hero doesnt have any ranged units to take out dimagas static defence whereas dimaga has his broodlords thus dimagas minerals = worth gold while heros minerals are completly useless =[
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yup. dima can pump spines like a monomaniac and gg hero.
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On April 20 2012 13:10 SiguR wrote:
I normally agree with bitter but I think his analysis of this game is completely wrong. Dimaga is playing this perfectly. Broodlord infestor ultra queen spine always wins against protoss if you starve them out without a massive disadvantage. This is one of the best played games i've seen from dimaga, even though it's quite boring. He has had incredibly good decision making.
Also, hero has been very sloppy with losing units that cost gas when he's being starved. He's playing completely into dimaga's hand.
Hero doesn't need to attack. Build a hundred cannons -> draw?
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I can't see Hero winning this now. No gas.
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Ultra, build them when you are super far ahead and want to lose.
Good thing 30 spines were able to save the day.
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HerO can take that right base that still has almost 2000 gas. There's creep over it, but no spines for Dimaga to camp over.
Otherwise, the best decision for him is to sit back and let the game end in a draw after 96 more minutes.
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On April 20 2012 13:13 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:10 SiguR wrote:
I normally agree with bitter but I think his analysis of this game is completely wrong. Dimaga is playing this perfectly. Broodlord infestor ultra queen spine always wins against protoss if you starve them out without a massive disadvantage. This is one of the best played games i've seen from dimaga, even though it's quite boring. He has had incredibly good decision making.
Also, hero has been very sloppy with losing units that cost gas when he's being starved. He's playing completely into dimaga's hand. Hero doesn't need to attack. Build a hundred cannons -> draw?
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Well that was a COOL battle lol
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my stream just died for the big fight. wtf, nice T_T
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Dumb and Dumber type of game
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neural parasite wrecked those immortals ><
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United States15275 Posts
That battle was not worth the wait.
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Go in for the kill already...
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dimaga still wont attack cus he doesnt know how much bank hero has LOL
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This game... lolololol
DIMAGA wins?
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If thorzain is the spoon terran, dima is the tooth pic zerg....
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Man, I bet the next game will be cheese....this is almost an hour long.
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I hope we get a re-game, and hero just crushes him in 10 minutes.
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On April 20 2012 13:13 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:10 SiguR wrote:
I normally agree with bitter but I think his analysis of this game is completely wrong. Dimaga is playing this perfectly. Broodlord infestor ultra queen spine always wins against protoss if you starve them out without a massive disadvantage. This is one of the best played games i've seen from dimaga, even though it's quite boring. He has had incredibly good decision making.
Also, hero has been very sloppy with losing units that cost gas when he's being starved. He's playing completely into dimaga's hand. Hero doesn't need to attack. Build a hundred cannons -> draw?
cannons arent that good vs broods
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On April 20 2012 13:14 Sein wrote:
HerO can take that right base that still has almost 2000 gas. There's creep over it, but no spines for Dimaga to camp over.
Otherwise, the best decision for him is to sit back and let the game end in a draw after 96 more minutes.
...ANNNNDDD HerO decides to do neither into losing the game.
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Can the NASL referees just leave the game and declare Dimaga a winner?
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On April 20 2012 13:14 mTwTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:13 Azarkon wrote:On April 20 2012 13:10 SiguR wrote:
I normally agree with bitter but I think his analysis of this game is completely wrong. Dimaga is playing this perfectly. Broodlord infestor ultra queen spine always wins against protoss if you starve them out without a massive disadvantage. This is one of the best played games i've seen from dimaga, even though it's quite boring. He has had incredibly good decision making.
Also, hero has been very sloppy with losing units that cost gas when he's being starved. He's playing completely into dimaga's hand. Hero doesn't need to attack. Build a hundred cannons -> draw? ????
Think about it. Sit your mothership behind your cannons and wait for the Zerg to attack you. Works better with a couple of carriers though.
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Most boring way to play. I know pros play to win not to entertain but this game is really frustrating. So boring.
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Did RotterdaM just call LeBron James a champion?... NO.
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On April 20 2012 13:15 Clooms wrote:
Man, I bet the next game will be cheese....this is almost an hour long.
ingame time, but still ...
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Hey, Dima, use your overlords to do some scouting and attack.
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poor casters! Poker stories, next it will be more drinking war stories!
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Uhh... just go fucking kill him?
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On April 20 2012 13:15 EnderCraft wrote:
If thorzain is the spoon terran, dima is the tooth pic zerg....
Rubber spatula.
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Man, we never hear much from Dimaga(well i dont keep up with whats happening i guess), but when we do, theres a good chance he is beating up on some great korean players, or having really great games. Hero has some of the best PvZ right o_o?
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Can they lose to the Blizzard draw thing?
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Dimaga is probably waiting until he can heal all his ultra back to full hp with queens and let other units get HP back with regen
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this game makes PvZ a nightmare to watch.
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Maybe Hero is waiting for a disconnect so they can regame.lol
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i can understand. you dont wanna throw away a game with a huge lead and we see everything and he cant, but please, just fly over there with some speed overlords and you see that there is nothing T_T
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My God, this game is over... DIMAGAAA
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dimagas play is perfectly fine tbh, why would u risk anything in an official league match
boring to watch but completly understandable : D, players play to win and not to entertain
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This is death by a thousand cuts....seriously....>.>
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Is this live? Are they allowed to tell Dimaga to just go? just kidding
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hahahahhah hero....man I feel for him
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Hes not even trying to Brood Lord + Spine Crawler + Creep Tumor push. Go Dimaga, I don't care if you move a millimeter a second with a Spine push, but at least move forward!
Wow Hero at zero APM - he must really be bored. I'd like to hear his comments on this game.
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I.........I think I kind of hate you dimaga. I'm sorry.......
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whys dimaga being such a pussy lol?
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Poor Hero. He's probably sitting with his hands on his head now.
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hmm this is not cool by dimaga :s
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Just tuned into this game. WTF Dimaga let's move it, sheesh.
EDIT: Poor Hero.
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What is Dima waiting for?
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pretty sure hero went to go take a crap or something.
dimaga is being stupid i have no idea why he would do this.
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Didn't really follow dimaga before this, but now there's no chance. Least entertaining game I've ever seen.
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dimaga is such a pansy...hahah
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If Dima does this at a live event and I am there, I will boo him, sorry. He does this crap to much.
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what a waste of 30 minutes lol
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I was about to say "It would be hilarious/sad if HerO just GGed here after such a long wait"
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lol what a random gg timing
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Completely understandable by Her0 lol
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lol that was pretty stupid...
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Borderline BM to pull a win like that tbh
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dimaga lost some respect for that one..
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No way dimaga could know how much hero had. Hero was denying every changeling.
You don't turtle for an hour and then pray you guessed your opponents bank correctly. Though I certainly agree he could've slow pushed more aggressively if he had the slightest notion he was ahead.
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That ending was kind of a shame.. but also a little funny.
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Most anti climactic GG in the history of Starcraft?
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hero went for his smoke break probably...lost all respect for dimaga
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Hero should've just left his computer and go grab something to eat while Dimaga is still using 30 APM on his army.
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dimaga always pulls this stuff, like against jyp. such a turtle
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That ending was absolutely hilarious. If Hero thought that was bad, wait until Flash switches over lol
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That was a good game...until the last 30 minutes of stall.
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lol that game was special
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On April 20 2012 13:19 IMNasty wrote:
this is borderline BM
gotta agree...hero was the better man to gg
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On April 20 2012 13:20 Fighter wrote:
That ending was kind of a shame.. but also a little funny.
overlords ffs
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Lol, first time I see HerO just give up of boredom.
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really disappointing play from dimaga there.
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On April 20 2012 13:18 mTwTT1 wrote:
dimagas play is perfectly fine tbh, why would u risk anything in an official league match
boring to watch but completly understandable : D, players play to win and not to entertain
Yes, sir, you are right. In a way Hero kinda gave it away in the same way Dimaga didn't. Being passive isn't a bad thing.
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It really is a shame, because up until the stalemate it was a really epic game.
Its also sad because Hero could have just as easily turtled on a thousand cannons, yet he chose to force the engagement into a lot of spines that was never going to go well for him.
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I blame Liquid for not telling HerO this is how Dima plays against Protoss. Don't play a super macro game against Dima.
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On April 20 2012 13:21 M[o] wrote:
dimaga always pulls this stuff, like against jyp. such a turtle
ya what map was that... dual sight? i remember the game similar to that where dimaga just turtled in a corner with his last base... spines/infestor/broodlord/corruptor. the unbeatable turtle.
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On April 20 2012 13:20 SiguR wrote:
No way dimaga could know how much hero had. Hero was denying every changeling.
You don't turtle for an hour and then pray you guessed your opponents bank correctly. Though I certainly agree he could've slow pushed more aggressively if he had the slightest notion he was ahead.
he could have used some ovies to find out, he had plenty extra. also it was pretty predictable that the map was mined out.
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Hahaahahaha Bitterdamn so good.
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On April 20 2012 13:20 ninjamyst wrote:
hero went for his smoke break probably...lost all respect for dimaga
On April 20 2012 13:20 bLuR wrote:
dimaga lost some respect for that one..
Could you please quantify exactly how much respect that was lost?
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I actually loved the 15-40min mark especially with the base race, it felt like a game of RISK and the last real fight was pretty awesome with the neural toilet. Its just the final 25 min that dragged it down.
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Although its boring as shit and pointless, dimaga is not in the wrong, if he's so far ahead that hero has no chance hero can GG instead of waiting for dima to attack. Dima doesnt ever have to attack
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Ever since I saw Dimaga do that exact same thing at some other tourney I've always thought it was unbeatable, heh.
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On April 20 2012 13:20 SiguR wrote:
No way dimaga could know how much hero had. Hero was denying every changeling.
You don't turtle for an hour and then pray you guessed your opponents bank correctly. Though I certainly agree he could've slow pushed more aggressively if he had the slightest notion he was ahead.
Dimaga is not a bronze leaguer Sir!
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On April 20 2012 13:21 Dante_A_ wrote:
It really is a shame, because up until the stalemate it was a really epic game.
Its also sad because Hero could have just as easily turtled on a thousand cannons, yet he chose to force the engagement into a lot of spines that was never going to go well for him.
Dimaga had Broodlords though, no Collossi for HerO to take on the Spines without losses
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That was Taoist by Dimaga - sometimes the best thing to do is to do nothing.
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On April 20 2012 13:22 Elwar wrote:
Ever since I saw Dimaga do that exact same thing at some other tourney I've always thought it was unbeatable, heh.
Tbh I literally feel that I see him do that every time unless he dies early.
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Oh my god.. Dimaga pulled the exactly same stunt against JYP on this exact map before, lol.
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That was one of the most embarrassing perfomances ever, the funny part? It was from the winner.
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He should have slow just slow pushed spines but realistically, no need UNTIL a draw is approaching. A draw wasn't approaching, he was mining and making stuff.
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Dimaga could've mined around 2k gas and pushed a lot more agressively, but he probably wins almost 100% of the games that get this late so I guess he knows what he's doing.
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Dimaga is truly special! he can lose to some random dude, when he is isn't playing his best. And win games against players like Hero, who is one of the best inn the world right now. just taking out Leenock at made it look easy!
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On April 20 2012 13:21 woody60707 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:18 mTwTT1 wrote:
dimagas play is perfectly fine tbh, why would u risk anything in an official league match
boring to watch but completly understandable : D, players play to win and not to entertain Yes, sir, you are right. In a way Hero kinda gave it away in the same way Dimaga didn't. Being passive isn't a bad thing.
I completely agree x1000. If you know your best chance to win is to completely turtle, you should probably turtle (unless you have to pee). I'd much rather watch dimaga turtle and win in 1.5 hours than have him push aggressively and lose in 45,
If you accept that dimaga had no idea how much hero had, I don't see how you could fault him for taking the win the way he did.
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Why would hero pick dual sight??
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On April 20 2012 12:54 mTwTT1 wrote:
ok dimaga usually goes into super turtle mode in these type of games, brace urself for a long one
thats my broski <3
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i wonder when this was played, i bet it pissed him off if he was preparing for code S
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Idk why people are saying it was bm by dimaga or saying they lost respect for dimaga. He had no idea how much hero had banked before the last big fight, and because hero was denying all the changelings he did not know exactly what hero had for army.
Dimaga has always been a safe player and when your playing for money it makes sense. He had no reason to attack, if he stayed and waited and slow pushed he would have won. Cant fault the guy for making 100% sure he was going to win.
I would rather see players like dimaga play super safe then just go balls to the wall and throw away games they have won.
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I don't get all the hate for Dimaga here. He didn't know how much minerals/gas/units Hero had left after the last fight, whereas Hero knew exactly that he had way too less units to even beat Dimaga's current army after the last fight. Hero could've just gg'ed there instead of waiting 20 more minutes.
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Well that was a funny game 1
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On April 20 2012 13:25 GreyKnight wrote:
i wonder when this was played, i bet it pissed him off if he was preparing for code S
The games are played within 24 hours of the broadcast.. They say this every night =P
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On April 20 2012 13:26 Champloo wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Dimaga here. He didn't know how much minerals/gas/units Hero had left after the last fight, whereas Hero knew exactly that he had way too less units to even beat Dimaga's current army after the last fight. Hero could've just gg'ed there instead of waiting 20 more minutes.
Instead of waiting for a 100% chance to win he's supposed to take a risk because people have short attention spans.
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On April 20 2012 13:26 Josh111 wrote:
Idk why people are saying it was bm by dimaga or saying they lost respect for dimaga. He had no idea how much hero had banked before the last big fight, and because hero was denying all the changelings he did not know exactly what hero had for army.
Dimaga has always been a safe player and when your playing for money it makes sense. He had no reason to attack, if he stayed and waited and slow pushed he would have won. Cant fault the guy for making 100% sure he was going to win.
I would rather see players like dimaga play super safe then just go balls to the wall and throw away games they have won.
fans are usually extremely selfish they just want to be entertained
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haha rotterdam giggling like a baby :D
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On April 20 2012 13:28 mTwTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:26 Josh111 wrote:
Idk why people are saying it was bm by dimaga or saying they lost respect for dimaga. He had no idea how much hero had banked before the last big fight, and because hero was denying all the changelings he did not know exactly what hero had for army.
Dimaga has always been a safe player and when your playing for money it makes sense. He had no reason to attack, if he stayed and waited and slow pushed he would have won. Cant fault the guy for making 100% sure he was going to win.
I would rather see players like dimaga play super safe then just go balls to the wall and throw away games they have won. fans are usually extremely selfish they just want to be entertained
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Im laughing at Rotterdamn laughing so much
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On April 20 2012 13:26 Champloo wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Dimaga here. He didn't know how much minerals/gas/units Hero had left after the last fight, whereas Hero knew exactly that he had way too less units to even beat Dimaga's current army after the last fight. Hero could've just gg'ed there instead of waiting 20 more minutes.
Dimaga is world class, he should know that even if he had minerals Hero wouldn't have enough gas to support a army against his composition.
Dimaga choked, that simple.
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LOL if you lose to vampireslayer338 and uninstall starcraft
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On April 20 2012 13:29 xXFireandIceXx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:28 mTwTT1 wrote:On April 20 2012 13:26 Josh111 wrote:
Idk why people are saying it was bm by dimaga or saying they lost respect for dimaga. He had no idea how much hero had banked before the last big fight, and because hero was denying all the changelings he did not know exactly what hero had for army.
Dimaga has always been a safe player and when your playing for money it makes sense. He had no reason to attack, if he stayed and waited and slow pushed he would have won. Cant fault the guy for making 100% sure he was going to win.
I would rather see players like dimaga play super safe then just go balls to the wall and throw away games they have won. fans are usually extremely selfish they just want to be entertained boxer
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On April 20 2012 13:29 DDie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:26 Champloo wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Dimaga here. He didn't know how much minerals/gas/units Hero had left after the last fight, whereas Hero knew exactly that he had way too less units to even beat Dimaga's current army after the last fight. Hero could've just gg'ed there instead of waiting 20 more minutes. Dimaga is world class, he should know that even if he had minerals Hero wouldn't have enough gas to support a army against his composition. Dimaga choked, that simple.
He won the game....
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Hero tilted and latency coming into play?
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Good god, both going for a long game.
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On April 20 2012 13:32 bokchoi wrote:
Hero tilted and latency coming into play?
Ye prob, looks like it
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oh my god these games are stupid lol
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haha i love those guys hahaha
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On April 20 2012 13:32 Josh111 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:29 DDie wrote:On April 20 2012 13:26 Champloo wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Dimaga here. He didn't know how much minerals/gas/units Hero had left after the last fight, whereas Hero knew exactly that he had way too less units to even beat Dimaga's current army after the last fight. Hero could've just gg'ed there instead of waiting 20 more minutes. Dimaga is world class, he should know that even if he had minerals Hero wouldn't have enough gas to support a army against his composition. Dimaga choked, that simple. He won the game....
Uh, yes, that's the point.
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Once Dima put down more than 5 spines near the middle, I am going to bed.
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Man, Dimaga is so, SO passive. I mean, he won last game, and he seems to be winning this game, but you've gotta figure that a little aggression would help.
edit: nvm, definitely losing after that engagement
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Dimaga's playstyle has been scientifically proven to be the only thing Guile's theme does not go with.
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gonna laugh if hero does the same thing as dimaga did.
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Hero just chillin and expoing. Good boy lol
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impeccable control by Hero!
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heros micro is so good, that dimaga just cannot finish him and its going exactly like game 1 lol.
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voidrays coming from Hero! nice
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Great micro from HerO, but kinda sucks at shift blinking
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dimaga is doing the same thing...
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I don't understand how they can talk about hero's "amazing micro" DIRECTLY AFTER talking about his micro fuck ups
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This stuff is bat shit crazy.
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Base trade again
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uhohhhh dimaga going bl's + hero getting a mothership = not a good sign
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hey rotterdam: shift blinking was so 2010 lol. It's mechanically unsound. When you shift blink stalkers have different cooldowns. Yes, you won't have big groups of stalkers stuck when you make mistakes, so in one sense it's more consistent, but if you position your army correctly with perfect play you should NEVER shift blink. You just need to move your units carefully so one blink does the job.
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Hahahaha, this is funny - 200hp Extractor left for Dima
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Taste of medicine incoming?
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...what league am i watching.
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wtf? How did that happen?
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Do creep tumors count as buildings?
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custom map
guess the no building end condition isn't there
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On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching.
ur watching an insane pvz, have some respect
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wtf? Dual Sight even more broken than we thought xD
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this entire series hurts my head i'm laughing right now
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Nice manner. Not sarcasm, that was very sportsmanlike
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That's an interesting bug.
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Map bugged? Ô_Ô Never realized that, what version was this? ladder?
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NASL uses custom maps to hide the results in the players' profiles. It makes sense that their win conditions might be bugged. And also the win condition wouldn't be well tested cause you rarely need them
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Somebody blow on the cartridge!
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That has happened before with cloaked maps (which does not show on match history)
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We're going to make sure to check this out and fix the issue as soon as possible!
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On April 20 2012 13:48 Soap wrote:
That has happened before with cloaked maps (which does not show on match history)
Yeah, this was definitely a cloaked map, bugged out win condition.
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I think this happened in the Korean weekly. The two Korean players wandered around metalopolis for like five minutes after one player lost all of his buildings (he eventually tapped out).
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On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching.
A really high level pvz.....
Wish people would show respect for good players/good games
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i love watching crazy good micro against bane rain stuff like that, it's the only thing about protoss that is okay and hero is so good at it
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On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching.
A round of 8 Code S player, and a top EU Grandmaster.
Stop being an asshole, you're signfiicantly worse.
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On April 20 2012 13:47 ELA wrote:
Map bugged? Ô_Ô Never realized that, what version was this? ladder?
Dual Sight is not on ladder.
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On April 20 2012 13:49 Josh111 wrote:A really high level pvz..... Wish people would show respect for good players/good games
Im sorry I dont find anything to respect in "Hey let's baserace against eachother and drop extractors around the map"
Sure the mechanics throughout the game and attacks until that might have been highlevel, but frankly I find it a piss awful let down way to play, that frankly is just stupid dangerous.
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On April 20 2012 13:52 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:49 Josh111 wrote:On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching. A really high level pvz..... Wish people would show respect for good players/good games Im sorry I dont find anything to respect in "Hey let's baserace against eachother and drop extractors around the map" Sure the mechanics throughout the game and attacks until that might have been highlevel, but frankly I find it a piss awful let down way to play, that frankly is just stupid dangerous.
What? You're obviously terrible. Base trades are objectively a good decision in certain scenarios.
They play to win.
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On April 20 2012 13:50 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:47 ELA wrote:
Map bugged? Ô_Ô Never realized that, what version was this? ladder? Dual Sight is not on ladder.
Oh right.. Somehow my brain was still stuck on Ohana :S
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On April 20 2012 13:52 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:49 Josh111 wrote:On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching. A really high level pvz..... Wish people would show respect for good players/good games Im sorry I dont find anything to respect in "Hey let's baserace against eachother and drop extractors around the map" Sure the mechanics throughout the game and attacks until that might have been highlevel, but frankly I find it a piss awful let down way to play, that frankly is just stupid dangerous.
I think it would of been stupid dangerous for HerO to directly attack that army.
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On April 20 2012 13:47 Die4Ever wrote:
NASL uses custom maps to hide the results in the players' profiles. It makes sense that their win conditions might be bugged. And also the win condition wouldn't be well tested cause you rarely need them
That makes the most sense to me, there is a neutral third player after all.
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Epic: Classic, Grandiose, Mythologically Good? Eminent, Storied,
Poetic has cool synonyms: Odic, Elegaic, Anapestic
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On April 20 2012 13:53 XenocideFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:52 Angel_ wrote:On April 20 2012 13:49 Josh111 wrote:On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching. A really high level pvz..... Wish people would show respect for good players/good games Im sorry I dont find anything to respect in "Hey let's baserace against eachother and drop extractors around the map" Sure the mechanics throughout the game and attacks until that might have been highlevel, but frankly I find it a piss awful let down way to play, that frankly is just stupid dangerous. What? You're obviously terrible. Base trades are objectively a good decision in certain scenarios. They play to win.
your personal attack has nothing to do with my opinion. Base trades are risky as hell unless you have a composition you know you can obviously win with. i'm sorry you feel like im attacking the players or something, as apparently a few other people have. I just think basetrades are fucking awful if you're not positive you're going to win.
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On April 20 2012 13:52 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:49 Josh111 wrote:On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching. A really high level pvz..... Wish people would show respect for good players/good games Im sorry I dont find anything to respect in "Hey let's baserace against eachother and drop extractors around the map" Sure the mechanics throughout the game and attacks until that might have been highlevel, but frankly I find it a piss awful let down way to play, that frankly is just stupid dangerous.
Neither of them started the game with a gameplan to win by baserace. Certain events happened in the game which lead to how it ended up, where base racing was the only viable way to win. You can't fault these players for doing that.
Edit: I'll break it down for you because you don't seem to have understood the situation. Dimaga made a push at the top left with a slow, but superpowered army. Hero had a couple options here - to try and trek across the map so take the army head on in a fight that he would almost certainly lose, or to use his superior mobility and current map position to head south and snipe as many of dimaga's bases as possible. Because of the immobility of Dimaga's force at this stage, turning around simply wasnt an option. He had to continue pushing Hero and give up what he had left at home, forcing a base race. It wasn't risky, it was necessary play
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lmao bitterdam pushing a car through a Popeye's drive thru. i wish i would have seen that.
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I love bitterdam so much..really glad they're at NASL now so we see them cast more.
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yes thank you for ending this torture!!!
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On April 20 2012 13:55 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:53 XenocideFTW wrote:On April 20 2012 13:52 Angel_ wrote:On April 20 2012 13:49 Josh111 wrote:On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching. A really high level pvz..... Wish people would show respect for good players/good games Im sorry I dont find anything to respect in "Hey let's baserace against eachother and drop extractors around the map" Sure the mechanics throughout the game and attacks until that might have been highlevel, but frankly I find it a piss awful let down way to play, that frankly is just stupid dangerous. What? You're obviously terrible. Base trades are objectively a good decision in certain scenarios. They play to win. your personal attack has nothing to do with my opinion. Base trades are risky as hell unless you have a composition you know you can obviously win with. i'm sorry you feel like im attacking the players or something, as apparently a few other people have. I just think basetrades are fucking awful if you're not positive you're going to win.
No, it was just your opinion that gave me the (correct) conclusion you don't know what you're talking about.
No one started the game with the end-game strategy of base-trading. Mispositioning of an army with those unit composition forces a base trade, as you can't get caught out of position then engage directly.
Hate the game. Not the players. You're disrespectful and rude to people who are clearly superior to you, just keep that out of LR. Thanks.
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Hero dancing his stalkers? Mad?
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On April 20 2012 13:58 GreyKnight wrote:
yes thank you for ending this torture!!!
What? I don't understand people sometime. Its the last game of the night, if you don't like it then stop watching. ?
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On April 20 2012 13:48 holy_war wrote:
Yeah, this was definitely a cloaked map, bugged out win condition.
What's a cloaked map?
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Yeah... That's why you have to have spine crawlers going ling baneling.
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Grats HERO!!!
I think Dimaga was too fatigued to do much with his units.
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On April 20 2012 14:00 Guiness wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:48 holy_war wrote:
Yeah, this was definitely a cloaked map, bugged out win condition. What's a cloaked map?
A map that will not show who won it if you look up players' match history on battle.net.
Basically the only way to protect yourself as a tournament from having your results spoiled by leaks when casting from replays.
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ohhh thats interesting explains the choices and the dancing LOL
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HerO with the stalker dance :D gogo HerO!
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On April 20 2012 13:55 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 13:53 XenocideFTW wrote:On April 20 2012 13:52 Angel_ wrote:On April 20 2012 13:49 Josh111 wrote:On April 20 2012 13:46 Angel_ wrote:
...what league am i watching. A really high level pvz..... Wish people would show respect for good players/good games Im sorry I dont find anything to respect in "Hey let's baserace against eachother and drop extractors around the map" Sure the mechanics throughout the game and attacks until that might have been highlevel, but frankly I find it a piss awful let down way to play, that frankly is just stupid dangerous. What? You're obviously terrible. Base trades are objectively a good decision in certain scenarios. They play to win. your personal attack has nothing to do with my opinion. Base trades are risky as hell unless you have a composition you know you can obviously win with. i'm sorry you feel like im attacking the players or something, as apparently a few other people have. I just think basetrades are fucking awful if you're not positive you're going to win.
Dimaga and HerO take notes, Angel_ laying down the law. What league am I watching guys? The league where people can beat you with one hand.
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thats prob why he was dancing his stalkers around rofl
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Makes a lot more sense than HerO for some reason picking Dual Sight for his map after losing the first game. Was kind of baffled by that decision.
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Oh wow her name really is Tricia.
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indeed...he must have been soooo happy beating dimaga after that game on ohana
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Terminate his opponent! Ben! You terminator!
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if daybreak was technically second that might answer why dimaga was so good manner at the end of game three, that was game two. or it just registered the other one later, like it does sometimes.
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What's the reason for this segment right now? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
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kind of unnecessary and awkward recap ~.~
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On April 20 2012 14:05 Champloo wrote:
What's the reason for this segment right now? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
*Joker face*
Tryouts!
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On April 20 2012 14:05 Champloo wrote:
What's the reason for this segment right now? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
I like these segments,.... for the most part.
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what happened in 3rd game? went to take a shower and expected another 1 hour game but it was over so quickly
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Oh crap. we share the same last name.
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On April 20 2012 14:08 ninjamyst wrote:
what happened in 3rd game? went to take a shower and expected another 1 hour game but it was over so quickly
basically hero pushed dimas third with a sentry blink stalker army and dima only had lings and banelings, and then good forcefielding cut off the banelings and they sat there getting shot, and then just plain rallied zerglings couldnt save it so the third went down then Hero walked into the natural and danced stalkers till dima gg-ed.
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On April 20 2012 14:12 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 14:08 ninjamyst wrote:
what happened in 3rd game? went to take a shower and expected another 1 hour game but it was over so quickly basically hero pushed dimas third with a sentry blink stalker army and dima only had lings and banelings, and then good forcefielding cut off the banelings and they sat there getting shot, and then just plain rallied zerglings couldnt save it so the third went down then Hero walked into the natural and danced stalkers till dima gg-ed.
And we also realized via match history that the daybreak game was the 2nd game and the Dual Sight game was game 3.
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was a ton of fun, thanks for watching guys <3
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On April 20 2012 14:17 RotterdaM wrote:
was a ton of fun, thanks for watching guys <3
Started out the day watching HerO advance to round of eight in the GSL, securing Code S for next season. Ended it with watching him come back versus Dimaga in a series that was insane.
Was a good day. Thanks NASL for being awesome this season.
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I have to say, I went from being an NASL hater to being a HUGE fan.
Season 3, you guys really kicked it up a notch. Big thanks to the production crew, and especially to Bitterdam, who really makes NASL entertaining
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Sooooo glad that hero pulled that one out. It wouldnt seem right for him to lose this right after achieving Code S
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On April 20 2012 04:48 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC) MC has the best PvZ. For example, MC and Hero were both on IPL fight club, and both had a Bo9 against Violet. Hero fought a close series but lost 4-5, whereas MC crushed Violet 5-1. Hero's good, but MC's the best Protoss
As much of an MC fan i am i have to say that u cant point on one zerg opponent and say one is better vZ.. Could depend on Violet style you know.
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On April 20 2012 16:47 Slangen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 04:48 Bagration wrote:On April 20 2012 02:39 McFeser wrote:
Hm. I feel bad for Dimaga. Not only did he HerO 5-0 him last time but has arguably the best ZvP in the world (It's either HerO or MC) MC has the best PvZ. For example, MC and Hero were both on IPL fight club, and both had a Bo9 against Violet. Hero fought a close series but lost 4-5, whereas MC crushed Violet 5-1. Hero's good, but MC's the best Protoss As much of an MC fan i am i have to say that u cant point on one zerg opponent and say one is better vZ.. Could depend on Violet style you know.
This is true, however MC hasn't lost a PvZ series this year.
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Just for the sake of having facts correct. Dual Sight was not played second, but third. HerO lost on Ohana and immediately chose Daybreak, followed by DIMAGA taking Dual Sight and having the crazy ace game.
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Suprising to see Ryung beat a non terran Can't wait to watch the game tonight, NASL has gotten very fun this season.
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Seriously unacceptable fan reactions in this topic. The guy is a professional and played like a professional. His job is to entertain by playing to the best of his abilities. Sport fans are to be entertained by people who play their hearts out. This knowledge allows you to enjoy the games you find entertaining.
This is Dimaga's job. The way the flow of the game went Dimaga was going to win in the long run, thus the pressure to do something about it was on Hero. Given how the game went, if Dimaga plays differently, he probably loses. What do you want him to do, lose on purpose?
I for one am more than glad that instead throwing his army into vortexes (and consequently whining about balance), Dimaga finds a way to win.
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any more unacceptable than the way people usually act in tournament threads? i'm just wondering what prompted the response this time. That first game was annoying as a hero fan but it didnt bother me too much because i was pretty confident that hero would still take the series. i think people were too eager to jump all over dimaga's ass for something any other pro would have done but it's not like this kind of reaction is different than the norm.
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On April 20 2012 18:18 Lysanias wrote:Suprising to see Ryung beat a non terran Can't wait to watch the game tonight, NASL has gotten very fun this season.
Ryung's TvZ was never bad... just his TvP. His TvZ was always competent.
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NASL, could you please remove the little lightning animation on the left side above the minimap? It's really distracting, always draws my attention away from the game/the minimap. Remove it or take off the animation, please.
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Demuslim's only guy with a perfect series :D Nice did not know that. (Didn't see games when aired before)
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wow such a boring game :|
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This game, haha. This is epic
Edit: And I thought that ThorZain and Goody could be passive. This is infested spoon zerg.
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I disagree Nazghul, I think dimaga was too pasive. I agree that he did what he thought was right but that was just boring. Hero was saying come kill me and even then dimaga was making 4 zerglings. THANK GOD HERO WON!!!
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Im TIRED of listening to bitter say dimaga is dead, dimaga is done, there is no way for dimaga to come back, it ruins the experience SO MUCH. I can say for sure he is not one of the best casters. Drains all the fun from the game with his casting/
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So great to watch. Bitter and Rotterdam are very good and funny. Very big improvement from NASL. Congratulations.
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