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ErrantMind
United States63 Posts
On May 29 2012 12:17 Dasende wrote: At a quick glance I believe the playoffs teams have all been decided, and it's now seeding points. yep, even if galaxy can't get our heads straight and lower ranked teams tie up with us our first-place tied points lead keeps us in the playoffs. good game, good luck! | ||
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Robo-boogey
Australia110 Posts
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
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Chasian18
United States38 Posts
PAYBACKchas | ||
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GlintFox
United States275 Posts
On May 30 2012 00:23 howLiN wrote: The King's Men need to send their lineup as soon as possible, you're not letting your players and Galaxy's play your games. Yea TKM. And Howlin, I would of preferred you waiting to post our lineup until theirs was submitted. | ||
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
On May 30 2012 04:02 Chasian18 wrote: I know I'm a little sore about our team not being able to get in playoffs, but first off, why only half of the league gets in? and second why do we go by match results and not single games to determine who gets in. I don't understand the point of ace match if all 3 games don't count towards the point score. I'll probably edit this later, I'm in a hurry. PAYBACKchas I wondered about that too. The ace match isn't even a real ace match. I think we should mimic the EGMC and do a series of 4 and if its tied do an ace match. | ||
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Skorbnut
United States20 Posts
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Reedjr
United States228 Posts
As far as only 4 teams in the playoffs, everyone was fine with it at the start of the season. If you're in the top 4, you're still fine with it, and if you're in the bottom 4 you're not. The way to get in the playoffs was clear, and if you wanted to get in your team should have won more. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On May 30 2012 05:06 Skorbnut wrote: It really should count as 2 "points" with a possibility of losing a match even though you go 3-3 in "points" (2-0 the ace match, but go 1-3 in the other games.) This doesn't make sense. It's just a bo3, and match wins are based on set score, not map score. I don't see a problem with the ace match the way it is, all it does is allow more games to be played and slightly reduce the chance of upsets. | ||
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Skorbnut
United States20 Posts
On May 30 2012 05:29 zefreak wrote: This doesn't make sense. It's just a bo3, and match wins are based on set score, not map score. I don't see a problem with the ace match the way it is, all it does is allow more games to be played and slightly reduce the chance of upsets. Yes it does. The ace match allows for 2 points to be won instead of one. But the match is still based off the amount of sets won, not games. The problem with the ace, is that the title of "ace" doesn't really belong there. It's not weighted any differently. I think a better, different way to handle the ace, is to do Bo5 (or Bo7), and if a team goes up 3-0, or 3-1, the match ends there. But if it's 2-2, each team gets to choose a player (blind of each other) to play in a Bo5/7 to decide the match. | ||
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ErrantMind
United States63 Posts
On May 30 2012 04:02 Chasian18 wrote: I know I'm a little sore about our team not being able to get in playoffs, but first off, why only half of the league gets in? and second why do we go by match results and not single games to determine who gets in. I don't understand the point of ace match if all 3 games don't count towards the point score. I'll probably edit this later, I'm in a hurry. PAYBACKchas it seems like the match pts vs set wins is a to-may-to or to-mah-to situation, either one is a fine way to rank the teams, but whichever is chosen someone can complain that the other way is better. hell, if it was by match points, galaxy'd still be fighting for the top of the heap! as for why only the top 4 teams are in the playoffs, i don't want to sound condescending but not everyone can win, tyler durden has the right idea here. We arent all unique snowflakes, no matter what my mom told me. but logistically, if every team got into the playoffs, then the regular season amounts to 7 weeks of wasting time. All it would do is set the seeding, and those teams that had a better record would have earned nothing through the season. as for why all 3 match games dont count, i dunno, i can't answer that other than the math may not add up to a clear cut winner that way. but heres an idea i had for the structure of the playoffs: instead of the standard 5 matches (that i assume is the plan) what about a league based all-kill? change things up a bit, maybe harder to coordinate, but give everyone on the team an opponent in thier league, and cull the winners down until theres only 1 player in each league. 3 leagues, 3 possible points, easy to call a winner. | ||
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GlintFox
United States275 Posts
On May 30 2012 06:27 Skorbnut wrote: Yes it does. The ace match allows for 2 points to be won instead of one. But the match is still based off the amount of sets won, not games. The problem with the ace, is that the title of "ace" doesn't really belong there. It's not weighted any differently. I think a better, different way to handle the ace, is to do Bo5 (or Bo7), and if a team goes up 3-0, or 3-1, the match ends there. But if it's 2-2, each team gets to choose a player (blind of each other) to play in a Bo5/7 to decide the match. It used to be the last match played and thus the decider for some matches. Then we changed the setup where we can play out of order | ||
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GlintFox
United States275 Posts
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On May 30 2012 06:30 ErrantMind wrote: it seems like the match pts vs set wins is a to-may-to or to-mah-to situation, either one is a fine way to rank the teams, but whichever is chosen someone can complain that the other way is better. hell, if it was by match points, galaxy'd still be fighting for the top of the heap! In any league ever, match score counts over map score. | ||
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Reedjr
United States228 Posts
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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ErrantMind
United States63 Posts
On May 30 2012 07:01 zefreak wrote: All kill is a bad idea I think, I mean TKP only has 1 bronze and 2 active silvers. Standard all-kill is just a horrible format for a bronze to gold league and the one you describe is both confusing and seems like it would take much longer than the current format. If all my ideas were good, i wouldnt be hooked on meth and have a wooden leg. it certainly would take longer than our standard match, and may in fact be a bad idea, but i don't think its too confusing for our paltry b-s-g minds to comprehend edit: to clarify, i meant all kill in each league. Bronzies fight to the last bronzie, silvers to the last man, and golds murder each other around until someone stands on a pile of bodies. by far the best arguement against it, imo, is that some teams don't have a full roster, and that would be unfair. | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
We favor match wins over set wins because it's a team league. By favoring set wins we would be basically saying that individual results matter more than team results. It's more important to a team league when a team, as a whole, beats another team, rather than individual players beating each other. About the ace set, the original point of the ace set was because the sets were supposed to be played in order, so the last set would have a bigger weight because it would untie the match. We really didn't find a nice way to convey the result of an ace set into the match score, I admit that. Maybe for the next season we could implement something like NASL does, where a 2-0 counts as two wins and a 2-1 counts as one win. But then again, if sets aren't to be played in order, maybe we don't actually need a ace set with different rules. As for the playoffs format, I like where it is right now. It rewards the top teams without taking away too much competition time from the lower teams. | ||
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MaximusT
United States126 Posts
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