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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#1041
Leenock MMA in last game plz.
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DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
April 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#1042
On April 12 2012 19:44 Audemed wrote:
Why would Yamato BC's not do well vs this sort of zerg play? Serious question.


Problem is getting there and why would you build capital ships off your starports when zerg goes corrupters anyway with bl tech to deal with vikings.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#1043
On April 12 2012 19:44 Audemed wrote:
Why would Yamato BC's not do well vs this sort of zerg play? Serious question.

Because at 25 min you're already dead.
MC for president
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#1044
On April 12 2012 19:45 Noocta wrote:
We need to come out with something that punish early hive.
It's not normal zerg can safely get a Hive before 15min in my opinion.


Normal TvZ is all about Terran pressuring Zerg. Nada played a passive macro-style and Leenock abused it perfectly. Terran can't go passive, neither against Toss nor against Zerg.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
April 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#1045
On April 12 2012 19:44 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:42 Hypemeup wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:41 FatalT wrote:
swarm host and the viper + this.. T_T


Going to be painful man, we wont even have the shredder/warhound to deal with it

They did say they were looking into adding something to the Factory though, looking forward to seeing what.


what you mean man? just make many vikings? stop complaining about tvz late game!

+ Show Spoiler +
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#1046
On April 12 2012 19:44 Perfecto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:36 Medrea wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:35 Perfecto wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:32 Medrea wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:29 NGrNecris wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:27 Perfecto wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:21 windsupernova wrote:
I'm sorry but Nada played really sloppily this game.

Bad boring game IMO.



See that? When a terran loses it's ALWAYS a boring game.

I can't tell if you're trying to be annoying or funny


He is trying to get banned.

If you look at Perfecto's post history its all emoticons and +1's. Prob be banned before the end of the night.


Not true. I also like this:



You did check your PM's and see the warning right?



Seriously, lighten up. What are the smileys for if you don't use them. Now can we get back to the game? It's deja vu without the hellions. lol.


Thanks for the heads up. Didn't notice until you pointed it out. It's not for using the emoticons though, but for using them without any other remark.

My point is that i have stopped taking those surveys about the game seriously because majority of the posters will vote "no" if a terran loses. In fact I make it a point to watch the VOD (if I hadn't seen them) of the games voted no because I want to see how the terran lost.



Are you really accusing TeamZerquid for being biased in favor of Terran?

Thats a first. O_0
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
April 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#1047
On April 12 2012 19:45 Scila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:44 Audemed wrote:
Why would Yamato BC's not do well vs this sort of zerg play? Serious question.


BCs take too long to build, and are easily countered by Corruptors + Neural Parasite.


Broodlords really need to be made from a different unit other than corruptors.

Lol you want to use air unitz? K i maek corruptor. Lol now i haz gglords.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
April 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#1048
On April 12 2012 19:44 windsupernova wrote:
Ugh, After reading that yesterdays games were pretty good I tuned in for GSL and games so far have been kinda meh,

Hate to be a negative Nancy but thats what I think


Well, you're watching Sc2 at the highest level of play, if that's meh to you, then you should quit altogether IMO.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 12 2012 10:47 GMT
#1049
leenock better pull out some wonky all-ins and hope for the best
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
April 12 2012 10:47 GMT
#1050
On April 12 2012 19:44 Bommes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:40 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:36 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
See if this was Brood War, those Thors would be Goliaths and Goliaths could handle Guardians a LOT better than Thors can handle Brood Lords.


Goliaths would go full retard against Broodlords. I disagree in that they would do better than Thors


Except Goliaths have the range to compete with Brood Lords and do their damage to single target instead of splash which is worthless against beefy brood lords.

Plus this is also assuming Goliaths were on the SC2 engine which would make them obviously less retarded.


Don't Thor and Goliath have the same relative range?_? And I was making fun of the pathfinding in BW btw


I believe with the range upgrade in Brood War Goliaths have the same relative range as Vikings do in SC2.


That would be less range than thors.

Thors are useless because they only do damage against light though, thats why they are so shit. They just have no damage output, they do like 8 DPS which is ridiculously bad for their cost.


My bad on the range then, but Goliaths also have another key advantage over thors and that's their mobility. Thors are slow and clunky and you can't flank and do other sorts of important things with them that you can do with Goliaths.

Not only that but they are incredibly expensive and take forever to build and considering they're the only anti air unit that comes out of the factory that's a big problem.

In general you're supposed to mix Vikings with mech in order to cover Mech's anti-air needs. But the crucial issue here is that Vikings benefit from a separate set of upgrades than the rest of the factory units do which is something that wasn't an issue with Goliaths.

TLDR: I miss Goliaths.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
April 12 2012 10:47 GMT
#1051
On April 12 2012 19:46 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:44 windsupernova wrote:
Ugh, After reading that yesterdays games were pretty good I tuned in for GSL and games so far have been kinda meh,

Hate to be a negative Nancy but thats what I think


Well, you're watching Sc2 at the highest level of play, if that's meh to you, then you should quit altogether IMO.


Games today have been pretty shit compared to yesterday.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1052
On April 12 2012 19:46 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:44 windsupernova wrote:
Ugh, After reading that yesterdays games were pretty good I tuned in for GSL and games so far have been kinda meh,

Hate to be a negative Nancy but thats what I think


Well, you're watching Sc2 at the highest level of play, if that's meh to you, then you should quit altogether IMO.


What?

So there can't be boring games in GSL?

Terrible logic..
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1053
On April 12 2012 19:46 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:44 windsupernova wrote:
Ugh, After reading that yesterdays games were pretty good I tuned in for GSL and games so far have been kinda meh,

Hate to be a negative Nancy but thats what I think


Well, you're watching Sc2 at the highest level of play, if that's meh to you, then you should quit altogether IMO.

It's been a turtle-fest, "best play" or not..
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1054
On April 12 2012 19:46 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:44 windsupernova wrote:
Ugh, After reading that yesterdays games were pretty good I tuned in for GSL and games so far have been kinda meh,

Hate to be a negative Nancy but thats what I think


Well, you're watching Sc2 at the highest level of play, if that's meh to you, then you should quit altogether IMO.


To be fair though, Nada vs Leenock was really disappointing on Nadas part.

Looked like he didn't practice TvZ at all :/
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1055
On April 12 2012 19:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:44 Bommes wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:40 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:36 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
See if this was Brood War, those Thors would be Goliaths and Goliaths could handle Guardians a LOT better than Thors can handle Brood Lords.


Goliaths would go full retard against Broodlords. I disagree in that they would do better than Thors


Except Goliaths have the range to compete with Brood Lords and do their damage to single target instead of splash which is worthless against beefy brood lords.

Plus this is also assuming Goliaths were on the SC2 engine which would make them obviously less retarded.


Don't Thor and Goliath have the same relative range?_? And I was making fun of the pathfinding in BW btw


I believe with the range upgrade in Brood War Goliaths have the same relative range as Vikings do in SC2.


That would be less range than thors.

Thors are useless because they only do damage against light though, thats why they are so shit. They just have no damage output, they do like 8 DPS which is ridiculously bad for their cost.


My bad on the range then, but Goliaths also have another key advantage over thors and that's their mobility. Thors are slow and clunky and you can't flank and do other sorts of important things with them that you can do with Goliaths.

Not only that but they are incredibly expensive and take forever to build and considering they're the only anti air unit that comes out of the factory that's a big problem.

In general you're supposed to mix Vikings with mech in order to cover Mech's anti-air needs. But the crucial issue here is that Vikings benefit from a separate set of upgrades than the rest of the factory units do which is something that wasn't an issue with Goliaths.

TLDR: I miss Goliaths.


2 words: Science Vessel


KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1056
On April 12 2012 19:46 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:45 Noocta wrote:
We need to come out with something that punish early hive.
It's not normal zerg can safely get a Hive before 15min in my opinion.


Normal TvZ is all about Terran pressuring Zerg. Nada played a passive macro-style and Leenock abused it perfectly. Terran can't go passive, neither against Toss nor against Zerg.

MKP has proved you wrong. His Thor heavy mech style works out pretty well.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1057
On April 12 2012 19:46 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:44 Audemed wrote:
Why would Yamato BC's not do well vs this sort of zerg play? Serious question.

Because at 25 min you're already dead.


Also because if Zerg can make Brood Lords they can make Corruptors, and Corruptors laugh at Battlecruisers.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1058
On April 12 2012 19:46 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:45 Noocta wrote:
We need to come out with something that punish early hive.
It's not normal zerg can safely get a Hive before 15min in my opinion.


Normal TvZ is all about Terran pressuring Zerg. Nada played a passive macro-style and Leenock abused it perfectly. Terran can't go passive, neither against Toss nor against Zerg.


Zerg can get early hive even against marine tanks pressure tho.
Infestorling allow you to not waste any gas on thing you don't use in your lategame comp, it's just crazy efficient.
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hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1059
Bad Zvp vs bad PvZ. Who will fail the least? :D
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#1060
On April 12 2012 19:48 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:44 Bommes wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:40 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:36 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
See if this was Brood War, those Thors would be Goliaths and Goliaths could handle Guardians a LOT better than Thors can handle Brood Lords.


Goliaths would go full retard against Broodlords. I disagree in that they would do better than Thors


Except Goliaths have the range to compete with Brood Lords and do their damage to single target instead of splash which is worthless against beefy brood lords.

Plus this is also assuming Goliaths were on the SC2 engine which would make them obviously less retarded.


Don't Thor and Goliath have the same relative range?_? And I was making fun of the pathfinding in BW btw


I believe with the range upgrade in Brood War Goliaths have the same relative range as Vikings do in SC2.


That would be less range than thors.

Thors are useless because they only do damage against light though, thats why they are so shit. They just have no damage output, they do like 8 DPS which is ridiculously bad for their cost.


My bad on the range then, but Goliaths also have another key advantage over thors and that's their mobility. Thors are slow and clunky and you can't flank and do other sorts of important things with them that you can do with Goliaths.

Not only that but they are incredibly expensive and take forever to build and considering they're the only anti air unit that comes out of the factory that's a big problem.

In general you're supposed to mix Vikings with mech in order to cover Mech's anti-air needs. But the crucial issue here is that Vikings benefit from a separate set of upgrades than the rest of the factory units do which is something that wasn't an issue with Goliaths.

TLDR: I miss Goliaths.


2 words: Science Vessel




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