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This is not the place to talk about LoL viewership. This is also not a place to caster bash/balance whine/flame, etc. Please don't argue about how many views LoL has, or which game is better, or we will be upset. (added page 174) Also, lay off Scarlett please. (added page 227) | ||
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GiftPflanZe
Germany623 Posts
On April 07 2012 17:57 Vindicare605 wrote: Taeja was their last hope for making into pool play and he fell one round short. argh  . I doubt they get alot good footage now for the teamliquid documentary ; ( | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
exception of few(Huk,Sase,Illusion beating Ryung but all 3 drop out later) Honestly,Idra and Whitera are only there in the pool play due to seeding because they won IPL before. If you put them through the open bracket, I doubt they will fare well. The only exception is Stephano. This may sound biased but he won UK qualifier so like the people above stated.He is legit. Props to Huk though for almost making out of the open bracket. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On April 07 2012 17:57 Duravi wrote: Yes, all eliminated. I really wonder why they flew their entire roster out for this, the majority of it didn't have a prayer of making it out of the open bracket. Because if you're going to lose, may as well lose in Vegas. | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On April 07 2012 17:53 gaymon wrote: Did you watch the Stephano White-Ra matches ? White-Ra had those games until 2 very questionable decisions. White-Ra also more or less had the MKP series as well, before going with some very questionable decisions. | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
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Jimmy Raynor
902 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:09 FakeDeath wrote: Why are Koreans so good. If you look at the open bracket, all foreigners fall to the koreans in the open bracket exception of few(Huk,Sase,Illusion beating Ryung but all 3 drop out later) Honestly,Idra and Whitera are only there in the pool play due to seeding because they won IPL before. If you put them through the open bracket, I doubt they will fare well. The only exception is Stephano. This may sound biased but he won UK qualifier so like the people above stated.He is legit. Props to Huk though for almost making out of the open bracket. did you even watch the White-Ra games? | ||
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Nifel
706 Posts
Of course the Korean scene got a broader talent pool, and overall better players, but I see no reason to lose hope in the foreign scene and think of it as less legit just because of this event. ..meanwhile in Norway and Denmark you've got the top of the EU scene (with some exceptions) duking it out. The foreign scene is spread really thin due to tons of great events being scheduled in the worst possible way. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:21 Nifel wrote: To be honest, the amount of Koreans in IPL4 is probably the highest of any foreign tournament ever, and they're all signed pros while many of the foreigners seem to be unsigned and relatively unknown (we still saw some breakthroughs here). Of course the Korean scene got a broader talent pool, and overall better players, but I see no reason to lose hope in the foreign scene and think of it as less legit just because of this event. ..meanwhile in Norway and Denmark you've got the top of the EU scene (with some exceptions) duking it out. The foreign scene is spread really thin due to tons of great events being scheduled in the worst possible way. o___________________________O (Literally made this face in real life by the way, hard to believe but it really did happen) Every foreigner at IPL4 is a big name besides Scarlett... the biggest names even. And I've seen a list of players at these EU events this weekend and I promise not a single one stood a chance at making it into Pool Play. You either have to be crazy or not watch a whole lot of Starcraft (specifically the GSL and Korean play in general) to think that the foreign scene is even CLOSE to the Korean scene at this point. | ||
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
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Nifel
706 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:27 Hall0wed wrote: o___________________________O (Literally made this face in real life by the way, hard to believe but it really did happen) Every foreigner at IPL4 is a big name besides Scarlett... the biggest names even. And I've seen a list of players at these EU events this weekend and I promise not a single one stood a chance at making it into Pool Play. You either have to be crazy or not watch a whole lot of Starcraft (specifically the GSL and Korean play in general) to think that the foreign scene is even CLOSE to the Korean scene at this point. I'm not saying it's close, I'm saying there's no point in losing hope in it since it can still produce legit contenders. Perhaps I'm ignorant and clueless about the NA talent pool, if so please do enlighten me, but the first rounds of the open bracket in IPL4 contained a ton of names I've never heard of. Like these: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_4/Open_Bracket *edit* What names are the biggest is really debatable, but Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain, Titan, Snute, Nerchio, Socke, Mana etc. are names as big as any foreign player at IPL4 (except for Stephano/HuK). | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
Just use same/similar format to how I made this one today =] | ||
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Giku
Netherlands368 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:27 Hall0wed wrote: o___________________________O (Literally made this face in real life by the way, hard to believe but it really did happen) Every foreigner at IPL4 is a big name besides Scarlett... the biggest names even. And I've seen a list of players at these EU events this weekend and I promise not a single one stood a chance at making it into Pool Play. You either have to be crazy or not watch a whole lot of Starcraft (specifically the GSL and Korean play in general) to think that the foreign scene is even CLOSE to the Korean scene at this point. You're still missing a lot of foreigners who could have a chance on IPL Naniwa, Thorzain, maybe Grubby, Morrow and Happy could have taken a match vs some koreans Other than that, it's pretty much the top foreigners. EDIT: How late does day 2 start? | ||
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:37 Giku wrote: You're still missing a lot of foreigners who could have a chance on IPL Naniwa, Thorzain, maybe Grubby, Morrow and Happy could have taken a match vs some koreans Other than that, it's pretty much the top foreigners. EDIT: How late does day 2 start? according to the TL upcoming events, on your right, it should start in 7 hours and 21 minutes. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:40 Deckkie wrote: according to the TL upcoming events, on your right, it should start in 7 hours and 21 minutes. So, same time as yesterday. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
 Now the foreinger "hope" is on Stephano, Idra and White-Ra to make foreigners look less pathetic. On April 07 2012 17:31 nokz88 wrote: IPL4 will be forever remembered by myself as the tournament where I lost all hope for foreigner players. Just looking at the Open Bracket gives me chills... It's Stephano vs Korea now. Sadly, I think I feel the same... | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:37 Giku wrote: You're still missing a lot of foreigners who could have a chance on IPL Naniwa, Thorzain, maybe Grubby, Morrow and Happy could have taken a match vs some koreans Other than that, it's pretty much the top foreigners. EDIT: How late does day 2 start? Should begin at 17:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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Giku
Netherlands368 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:40 Deckkie wrote: according to the TL upcoming events, on your right, it should start in 7 hours and 21 minutes. Oh right, sorry, forgot about that, thanks! | ||
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kratos-23
303 Posts
On April 07 2012 18:27 Hall0wed wrote: o___________________________O (Literally made this face in real life by the way, hard to believe but it really did happen) Every foreigner at IPL4 is a big name besides Scarlett... the biggest names even. And I've seen a list of players at these EU events this weekend and I promise not a single one stood a chance at making it into Pool Play. You either have to be crazy or not watch a whole lot of Starcraft (specifically the GSL and Korean play in general) to think that the foreign scene is even CLOSE to the Korean scene at this point. i think nerchio would have a reasonable chance in the open bracket. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
I remember once where someone mentioned that if there were 50% Korean and foreign players in a qualifier, the foreigners had a better chance at qualifying (this was commented on GSL where there weren't many foreigners in a qualifier)  Now that the Koreans are participating in foreign tournaments every foreigner is getting crushed | ||
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