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On April 08 2012 12:33 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
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didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN? link? even if they did say that i call BS you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS? How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW? 1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater. Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this. are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future? I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never. So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here? You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying. i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue. I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game. Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!
I still love you milkis <3
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On April 08 2012 12:33 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
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didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN? link? even if they did say that i call BS https://twitter.com/#!/dting888/status/188819332145479681you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS? How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW? 1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater. Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this. are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future? I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never. So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here? You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying. i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue. I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game. Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!
You must've missed the memo.
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On April 08 2012 12:33 vndods wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:32 Forbidden17 wrote:On April 08 2012 12:31 Denzil wrote:On April 08 2012 12:28 vndods wrote:On April 08 2012 12:28 Denzil wrote:On April 08 2012 12:27 gideel wrote:
the king is SMASHING nerds left and right no he's not :/ beat by parting then almost beat by bomber smash them nerds mkp He wasn't beat by Parting  yes he was you must have amazing analytical skills considering all you did was watch the game live, see a screenshot of the unit count, and an army graph at the end. MKP's micro makes army stats invalid. I can do this all day.
well if you're gonna do this all day it might be useful to figure out whos saying the same thing as you and who isn't
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On April 08 2012 12:33 Superlative wrote:
Why do people keep blaming MKP and "Prime"?
It was Gom that decided to re-game
They should admit defeat if they have integrity, comeon it is 5base vs 5base and 3 marauders vs 16 zealots 6 stalkers 6 templars
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On April 08 2012 12:34 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:27 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 08 2012 12:26 DivinitySC2 wrote:On April 08 2012 12:25 mycro wrote:
I started out cheering for Prime, now I want Prime to lose so much.
Why? ...what the hell do you think? Prime probably lost half of their supporters after the 4th game, me included. Prime lost their supporters because MKP disconnected? Did he do it on purpose? Do you know something the rest of us don't? Blame Blizzard for killing Esports. Blame GOM for the regame. Stop being an idiot.
This.
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I think it's just sad. Just look at it..Parting is one of the few players that can actually beat MKP and ST's strategy was to force MKP vs Parting..and Parting obviously specially prepared for MKP and eventually got him. The whole series would have been so different now and there is soo much money on the line. I'd really like to have an official statement from the judges.
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On April 08 2012 12:29 DivinitySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:27 duct_TAPE wrote:
It's not right, Marineking should've been eliminated in the PartinG game ruling. We're seeing games that essentially are just "how things would have turned out if Marineking won against PartinG" we're not seeing the -real- final. But MarineKing won against Parting, he is also better in every aspect.
No he didn't, their first game was the only game they needed. It was over. Marineking was dead.
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On April 08 2012 12:32 infey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:25 Jono7272 wrote:On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:11 L3g3nd_ wrote:On April 08 2012 12:08 scaban84 wrote:
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Yeah exactly he's Korean and a pro. Which means he does what he's paid to do. Your post makes no sense. Do you understand that LAN would not have fixed that drop? yes it would have. it was an internet issue, LAN doesnt use the internet. didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN? link? even if they did say that i call BS https://twitter.com/#!/dting888/status/188819332145479681you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS? How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW? 1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater. Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this. are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future? I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never. Blah blah BW.. blah blah blah BW.. Putting your hands over your ears doesn't make facts go away.
Captain bw is nearly as useless as Captain Hindsight. Bw, a game with LAN, had less connectivity problems, who would have fucking guessed that?!
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This whole situation wouldnt be so bad if Wolf and Khaldor would just SHUT THE F%$& UP about MKP being such a hero, they need to stop hopping up and down on his effeminate nuts.
User was warned for this post
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On April 08 2012 12:33 OMGomg64 wrote:
People really need to not lay this at MKPs fault.. this is SOLELY the fault of blizzard. The decision should never have needed to be made in the first place.
It can be Prime's fault too
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On April 08 2012 12:33 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:30 ig0tfish wrote:On April 08 2012 12:28 Lord_J wrote:On April 08 2012 12:27 nam nam wrote:On April 08 2012 12:24 Eurytos wrote:
Is it just me or does the final result of the GSTL feel insignificant now? Maybe not insignificant but I feel a bit cheated. I really wish there was a way to continue a game from where you disconnected, it doesn't really matter if Parting was awarded the win or not. "Cheated" perfectly describes how I feel as well. I was rooting for Prime, but I'd rather see them lose than win like this... Please elaborate on how exactly this was Prime's fault. How exactly? They fucking lost instead of wining. It is called common sense. Parting was winning all fights with LOWER supply, and then he tipped HUGELY in his favour. What would be the outcome exactly?
Still doesn't explain why Prime is at fault.
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I hope Squirtle doesn't play at tilt like Bomber did. Bomber throwing that game away was painful. He had his army in the upper regions of the map not moving for like 15 seconds while MKP was smashing his third.
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LAN may not have saved that game and is not what we need....all i wanted from the beggining was a save game, or "continue playing from a replay"...THAT would be awesome and save ANY failure possible (network, power, etc...)
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On April 08 2012 12:33 OMGomg64 wrote:
People really need to not lay this at MKPs fault.. this is SOLELY the fault of blizzard. The decision should never have needed to be made in the first place.
it was kindve his fault. he couldve just admitted he was going to lose which he knew he was.
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Let's see if wolf is boss enough for a pokemon reference lol
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*Throws a poke-ball* : SquirtlEEEEEEEEE I Chooose youuuuuuuuuu
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On April 08 2012 12:33 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
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didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN? link? even if they did say that i call BS https://twitter.com/#!/dting888/status/188819332145479681you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS? How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW? 1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater. Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this. are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future? I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never. So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here? You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying. i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue. I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game. Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!
Too bad you only chime in when you have the opportunity to be a BW supremacist.
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On April 08 2012 12:33 RipxDark wrote:
ITT: People not knowing how networks work
these IT: Covering the asses of blizzard by putting a BS explanation that people are accepting ㄱ_ㄱ;
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On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 12:11 L3g3nd_ wrote:On April 08 2012 12:08 scaban84 wrote:
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Yeah exactly he's Korean and a pro. Which means he does what he's paid to do. Your post makes no sense. Do you understand that LAN would not have fixed that drop? yes it would have. it was an internet issue, LAN doesnt use the internet. didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN? link? even if they did say that i call BS https://twitter.com/#!/dting888/status/188819332145479681you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS? How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW? 1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater. Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this. are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future? I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never. So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here? You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying. Show nested quote +i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue. I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game. Either way, tournaments really do need to deal with this better, especially with transferring advantages over to the player in the lead when the drop happens. It's far better than a 'regame' that'll mess up people's mentality.
i have no opinion on what happened. i am not a tech guy, and even were I, i am not at the site, so i have no idea what happened. i am going to trust the opinion of people who are apparently there and know what they are talking about. i am also going to assume that they arent lying to us as part of some PR move. especially about something that can be so easily verified to be false. which do you think is a worse PR move? lying to everyone and then being proven wrong, or admitting there was an internet issue?
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