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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 03:36:04
April 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#7741
mkp can do anything he wants and it works, he knows how to micro. go mkp! pvt is ridicilous fkose odm lol imo? nvm lol edit
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#7742
They should have a rule for disconnecting during a game almost won by one of the players. They start a Bo3 MKP vs PartinG with PartinG up 1-0. So MKP still has the possibility to comeback (because he could have done it in the game), but PartinG has a tremendous advantage.

That's awkward but I think it could be a nice fix until LAN mode (...) :D
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#7743
On April 08 2012 12:32 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


I'm pretty sure it is. Everyone keeps suggesting a bandaid instead of the real fix, LAN.

Well Lan would obviously help a lot, but being able to play from a point in time would still be the ultimate safety net, so even if some PC malfunction happens you can still keep going after a short break
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#7744
On April 08 2012 12:34 Ozzon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:34 Vorenius wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 HaXXspetten wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:25 mycro wrote:
I started out cheering for Prime, now I want Prime to lose so much.



Why?

...what the hell do you think? Prime probably lost half of their supporters after the 4th game, me included.

Prime lost their supporters because MKP disconnected?

Did he do it on purpose? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

Blame Blizzard for killing Esports. Blame GOM for the regame. Stop being an idiot.


This.



I think that White-ra would have accepted his loss
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#7745
On April 08 2012 12:34 Forbidden17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:33 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:32 Forbidden17 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:31 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 gideel wrote:
the king is SMASHING nerds left and right


no he's not :/

beat by parting then almost beat by bomber

smash them nerds mkp

He wasn't beat by Parting



yes he was

you must have amazing analytical skills considering all you did was watch the game live, see a screenshot of the unit count, and an army graph at the end.

MKP's micro makes army stats invalid.



I can do this all day.

well if you're gonna do this all day it might be useful to figure out whos saying the same thing as you and who isn't

Didn't feel like finding his post sorry.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
April 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#7746
On April 08 2012 12:29 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:27 HaXXspetten wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:25 mycro wrote:
I started out cheering for Prime, now I want Prime to lose so much.



Why?

...what the hell do you think? Prime probably lost half of their supporters after the 4th game, me included.

It was Prime's fault cuz....?


no one's fault

just seems like if StarTale wins, they deserved it

but if prime wins, it's questionable

and I just want a deserving team win with no controversy; would have loved it if parting was awarded the win and prime ended up winning
you live and you learn
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
April 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#7747
On April 08 2012 12:34 ZAiNs wrote:
So they didn't regame, Byun played instead and they used old MKP footage to make us think he was playing. Interesting.

Wow that is amazing
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7748
On April 08 2012 12:33 Opeasy wrote:
Is it just me or is the quality on twitch far from standard 480p quality? And poor bomber, should have won that game!


The quality was dropped so you would buy it from GOM. Buy HD and you can have 480p again!
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7749
oh shit..is he doing that triple reactor hellion play!?
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7750
On April 08 2012 12:34 MahE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:33 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:
[quote]
link? even if they did say that i call BS



you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS?


How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW?

1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater.

Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this.

are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future?


I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never.


So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here?

You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene


Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue.


I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.




Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.


I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!


What do you think of this:
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[image loading]
Isn't it horrible fucking form for them to do this, even if they aren't outright rigging the match?


if the only thing in their rules was a "regame" then they stuck to their rules. I just hope all the major tournaments think of a better way of dealing with situations like this. This is how the tournament scenes get better and better -- the problem first needs to surface itself. It sucks for parting but I hope StarTale's loss tonight is at least justified in the future by organizers thinking of better solutions.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7751
On April 08 2012 12:35 FrodoAndTheSlobStix wrote:
This gstl is a disaster


Nah, it's awesome. It just has a lot of controversy, but the games have been great.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7752
Hating the player/team is dumb. Hating refusal to incorporate any sort of feature that would solve this kind of shit is completely understandable.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7753
On April 08 2012 12:33 Desiato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:30 ninjamyst wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:29 SeeKeR wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:25 DizzySheep wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 SeeKeR wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if during the Ro32 Code S match, MKP comes out with gray hair...

imagine the stress on him right now....


He shouldn't be..the regame wasn't decided by him.

Doesn't change the fact that he KNOWS ppl are going to blame him, his team, GOMtv, etc. etc. Ppl WILL bitch about this no matter what. MKP MUST be feeling horrible right now


and he had a choice in it too. he could have told the refs to award the win to parting.

...people should expect players to take winning seriously. This isn't some little league game where the players are supposed to feel good about themselves. their goal is to win.


people need to make their mind up, lets use an analogy to solve this

players play to win right? take every advantage you get

lets say im playing football and i get tackled it looks bad but it's actually nothing should i go down and get their player carded?
im in the penalty area and i feel a faint push on my back, i should dive to the ground and get a penalty right?

do these relate to starcraft? not really nor do they relate to disconnecting but at what point is the line between being a levelheaded decent player and being a play to win step over everyone and everything player?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7754
On April 08 2012 12:31 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


Man getting a free win in a game you lost must be soooooo haaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddd


Oh, so we're bumping it up to him getting a free win? They totally didn't replay that, you're right.
Authweight
Profile Joined May 2010
United States304 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7755
On April 08 2012 12:32 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


I'm pretty sure it is. Everyone keeps suggesting a bandaid instead of the real fix, LAN.


Honestly we should have both, but I would take the replay loading first because that way a dc is not a problem ever.
Desiato
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada185 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7756
On April 08 2012 12:33 Superlative wrote:
Why do people keep blaming MKP and "Prime"?

It was Gom that decided to re-game

And Gom was forced to make a call on a shitty situation because of Blizzard's refusal to properly find a solution after months and months of tournament issues due to game disconnects. Blizzard, a company that's hardly struggling, should be bringing some onsite servers to tournaments or finding a way to reconnect to replays instead of shrugging their shoulders whenever their shitty Bnet 2.0 fucks up.
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7757
I just came back home, what happened with refering???
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7758
On April 08 2012 12:34 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.



LAN *IS* a solution. So is loading from replays.

The problem is, we don't have either one.


....why don't we have reloading from replays? I'm not sure which, but some of the MOBAS have that future, and I saw it save a tournament from having to do an unnecessary re-game. I think it was Dota 2.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7759
On April 08 2012 12:35 Corsica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:34 Ozzon wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:34 Vorenius wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 HaXXspetten wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:25 mycro wrote:
I started out cheering for Prime, now I want Prime to lose so much.



Why?

...what the hell do you think? Prime probably lost half of their supporters after the 4th game, me included.

Prime lost their supporters because MKP disconnected?

Did he do it on purpose? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

Blame Blizzard for killing Esports. Blame GOM for the regame. Stop being an idiot.


This.



I think that White-ra would have accepted his loss


White-ra doesn't have a team...
itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
April 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#7760
Look, it's okay to be upset about the decision and even furious/mad about the lack of stability whether it be due to lack of LAN or IGN for not making sure connection issues like this could be avoided, BUT IT IS NEVER OKAY to start ridiculing the player who received the better end of a decision. MKP is showing great games and playing his heart out for his team and just doing his job. It's amazing how fickle and disgusting this community can become, if you stop supporting Prime now then you were never a true fan to begin with (I'm rooting for ST btw) but can you imagine how MKP feels? He has to potentially deal with a tainted victory but he has no choice but to play his best. Anyway point your anger towards blizzard/ign/or w/e but not the player.
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