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On April 04 2012 15:59 johnnywup wrote: hmmm, i dunno about using non-tested maps like devolution. Using maps like shakuras and TDA with 6m1g should be good but we don't know the balance of these untested maps so yeah. I feel like the "test" for 6m1g would be greatly improved if there weren't so many factors to consider such as map balance.
Using familiar maps doesn't matter as much when every timing you know has changed. And in fact, the new maps are much better for the 6m paradigm. It's a compromise. This is to show cool games and see what happens when top players put their apm to use.
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On April 04 2012 15:59 johnnywup wrote: hmmm, i dunno about using non-tested maps like devolution. Using maps like shakuras and TDA with 6m1g should be good but we don't know the balance of these untested maps so yeah. I feel like the "test" for 6m1g would be greatly improved if there weren't so many factors to consider such as map balance.
The issue with using some of the ladder maps converted to 6m1hyg is that many are simply not large enough (either in layout, or in base count) to sustain long games. Consider Korhal Compound only has 5 bases per player, Cloud Kingdom has 6. They were made for 8m.
Both Devolution and Braxis Delta have 8 bases per player, which allow for late game scenarios in the 6m1hyg format. Antiga and Metropolis could theoretically be used since it has 7, but it'd still be an overall mineral decrease.
While these maps haven't been tested on a massive scale, there has been a lot of interaction between mapmakers and the FRB playing community, with tons of people playing and even more importantly, observing games on these maps. Changes have been made to balance the map based on what the community has seen. Of course, this isn't going to lead to perfect balance, but it also needs to be considered that map imbalances exist even in the standard 8m format.
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So when will we find out if we got in or not?
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Makes sense, didn't realize the maps were created specifically for FRB.
Makes me wonder if the future of pro sc2 will be anything like what we have now.
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@Blade: We'll be publishing the brackets this Friday, April 6th. You'll get a PM, and can check out this thread for the info.
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This is going to be friggin awesome...
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Sick player line-up for a such tournament, i'm never going to miss it
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We can't wait...have I said that before!? I'm glad everyone is pleased!
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Damn, I wish this happening a lot sooner.
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I love this idea, I really want sc2 to evolve past the deathballs.
My only complaint is they really should be playing BO3. One game doesn't decide who is the better player. Many finals end up being down to one game even in best of 7s.
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Awesome, Ganzi fight! Gonna be great to see how the game looks at a high level using these maps and I can't wait to try the maps out for myself hopefully this weekend.
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HighLach: All rounds are at least BO 3.
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I think this would be a lot more relevant if all the maps were 6m variations of currently used tournament maps. It would gameplay differences much more obvious.
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On April 04 2012 19:47 Exactable wrote: I think this would be a lot more relevant if all the maps were 6m variations of currently used tournament maps. It would gameplay differences much more obvious. No, no it would not. Have you played custom 6m maps and standard-converted maps? They weren't build with 6m in mind, and it shows.
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We'll see how I do in this tournament once I see the brackets go up.
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Will there be VODs? If so, where will I be able to find them? BTW guys, great job so far with the FRB stuff, you're doing some amazing stuff out here.
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On April 04 2012 21:35 ZeroWave wrote: Will there be VODs? If so, where will I be able to find them? BTW guys, great job so far with the FRB stuff, you're doing some amazing stuff out here. Please make sure VODs and replays are available! FRB has gotten me really excited about SC2 again just when I was getting tired of alternating between two- and three-base strategies, and a collection of high-level games will be a fantastic resource for learning how the maps can be played, and also for pointing other players to examples of what FRB maps are like.
I'm super pumped about this tournament, looking forward to it more than any tourney since TSL3 ended :-D.
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