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EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 07:28:04
April 04 2012 07:25 GMT
#101
On April 04 2012 15:59 johnnywup wrote:
hmmm, i dunno about using non-tested maps like devolution. Using maps like shakuras and TDA with 6m1g should be good but we don't know the balance of these untested maps so yeah. I feel like the "test" for 6m1g would be greatly improved if there weren't so many factors to consider such as map balance.


Using familiar maps doesn't matter as much when every timing you know has changed. And in fact, the new maps are much better for the 6m paradigm. It's a compromise. This is to show cool games and see what happens when top players put their apm to use.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
yakitate304
Profile Joined April 2009
United States655 Posts
April 04 2012 07:30 GMT
#102
On April 04 2012 15:59 johnnywup wrote:
hmmm, i dunno about using non-tested maps like devolution. Using maps like shakuras and TDA with 6m1g should be good but we don't know the balance of these untested maps so yeah. I feel like the "test" for 6m1g would be greatly improved if there weren't so many factors to consider such as map balance.


The issue with using some of the ladder maps converted to 6m1hyg is that many are simply not large enough (either in layout, or in base count) to sustain long games. Consider Korhal Compound only has 5 bases per player, Cloud Kingdom has 6. They were made for 8m.

Both Devolution and Braxis Delta have 8 bases per player, which allow for late game scenarios in the 6m1hyg format. Antiga and Metropolis could theoretically be used since it has 7, but it'd still be an overall mineral decrease.

While these maps haven't been tested on a massive scale, there has been a lot of interaction between mapmakers and the FRB playing community, with tons of people playing and even more importantly, observing games on these maps. Changes have been made to balance the map based on what the community has seen. Of course, this isn't going to lead to perfect balance, but it also needs to be considered that map imbalances exist even in the standard 8m format.
Yaki's Streaming Madness: twitch.tv/YakiSC ||| FRB Grand Tournament Organizer ||| @YakiStarCraft ||| Youtube.com/YakiStarCraft
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 04 2012 07:31 GMT
#103
So when will we find out if we got in or not?
When I think of something else, something will go here
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 04 2012 07:46 GMT
#104
Makes sense, didn't realize the maps were created specifically for FRB.

Makes me wonder if the future of pro sc2 will be anything like what we have now.
OldManSenex
Profile Joined June 2011
United States130 Posts
April 04 2012 08:33 GMT
#105
@Blade: We'll be publishing the brackets this Friday, April 6th. You'll get a PM, and can check out this thread for the info.
For FRB shoutcasts and analysis check out www.youtube.com/wiseoldsenex
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 04 2012 08:36 GMT
#106
Ok thanks sounds good :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 04 2012 08:48 GMT
#107
This is going to be friggin awesome...
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
April 04 2012 08:50 GMT
#108
Sick player line-up for a such tournament, i'm never going to miss it
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
Pull
Profile Joined April 2010
United States308 Posts
April 04 2012 09:10 GMT
#109
We can't wait...have I said that before!? I'm glad everyone is pleased!
Co-Creator of the FRB Grand Tournament...Check out my epic commentaries at YouTube.com/pullsc and twitch.tv/pullsc ESPORTS FIGHTING!
Youlovemeboo
Profile Joined August 2011
United States9 Posts
April 04 2012 09:18 GMT
#110
Damn, I wish this happening a lot sooner.
HighLach
Profile Joined December 2011
United States132 Posts
April 04 2012 09:35 GMT
#111
I love this idea, I really want sc2 to evolve past the deathballs.

My only complaint is they really should be playing BO3. One game doesn't decide who is the better player. Many finals end up being down to one game even in best of 7s.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 04 2012 09:37 GMT
#112
Awesome, Ganzi fight! Gonna be great to see how the game looks at a high level using these maps and I can't wait to try the maps out for myself hopefully this weekend.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
April 04 2012 09:37 GMT
#113
very interesting
OverUsedChewToy
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand6 Posts
April 04 2012 09:44 GMT
#114
HighLach: All rounds are at least BO 3.
Exactable
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia263 Posts
April 04 2012 10:47 GMT
#115
I think this would be a lot more relevant if all the maps were 6m variations of currently used tournament maps. It would gameplay differences much more obvious.
-ForeverAlone-
Profile Joined June 2011
274 Posts
April 04 2012 11:28 GMT
#116
On April 04 2012 19:47 Exactable wrote:
I think this would be a lot more relevant if all the maps were 6m variations of currently used tournament maps. It would gameplay differences much more obvious.

No, no it would not. Have you played custom 6m maps and standard-converted maps? They weren't build with 6m in mind, and it shows.
omg terran is hard to play
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
April 04 2012 11:32 GMT
#117
Free cash for Ganzi
MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
April 04 2012 11:41 GMT
#118
We'll see how I do in this tournament once I see the brackets go up.
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
ZeroWave
Profile Joined December 2011
Israel49 Posts
April 04 2012 12:35 GMT
#119
Will there be VODs? If so, where will I be able to find them?
BTW guys, great job so far with the FRB stuff, you're doing some amazing stuff out here.
Never give up, Never surrender.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
April 04 2012 12:38 GMT
#120
On April 04 2012 21:35 ZeroWave wrote:
Will there be VODs? If so, where will I be able to find them?
BTW guys, great job so far with the FRB stuff, you're doing some amazing stuff out here.

Please make sure VODs and replays are available! FRB has gotten me really excited about SC2 again just when I was getting tired of alternating between two- and three-base strategies, and a collection of high-level games will be a fantastic resource for learning how the maps can be played, and also for pointing other players to examples of what FRB maps are like.

I'm super pumped about this tournament, looking forward to it more than any tourney since TSL3 ended :-D.
The frumious Bandersnatch
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