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On April 03 2012 15:12 SaroVati wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 12:06 Gofarman wrote:Hey, is there a PayPal people can donate to so we can get more of these events happening on a regular basis? Nudge Nudge   I still want my $14.50 from that online tourney that was held! On a side note it looks like a lot more players have signed up and this should be funnnnnnnnn :D
We have even more coming on the announcement front, so if you think the player pool is sick now, just you wait!
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Can I spill the beans It's SO SICKKKK
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Nope, I get to spill them!
coL.GanZi will be taking part in the tournament! For those who don't know who he is . . . where have you been? He's a Code S Korean Terran who most recently finished top 8 in the MLG Winter Arena, after slaughtering his way through the lower bracket and defeating players including Socke, MVP and MC. For those who want to know more of his accomplishments (and there are a lot of them!), check out his liquipedia at:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GanZi
One other quick update, due to popular demand and reconsideration from FRB's creator Barrin, 6m Entombed Valley has been removed from the official FRB map pool, and will be therefore also be removed from the FRB Grand Tournament map pool. The difficulty in taking and holding bases, weirdness with destructible rocks and general closeness of the map made it less successful as a FRB map than had been originally hoped, and it will be replaced by the new map 6m Braxis Delta by Barrin. For more information on that, check out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325475
The full list of professional players who are taking part is now: col.Ganzi, is.Axslav, vileIllusion, coL.Goswser, GoSuViBE, NrGLuckyFool, cvgFitzyHere, NMxMasa, HeavensLighT and ClashShew. However, if you're a community member hoping to take part in the tournament don't despair! There are still slots left and we'll be picking from the best community members to fill them in the brackets released this Friday, April 6th!
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On April 04 2012 05:36 OldManSenex wrote:Nope, I get to spill them! coL.GanZi will be taking part in the tournament! For those who don't know who he is . . . where have you been?  He's a Code S Korean Terran who most recently finished top 8 in the MLG Winter Arena, after slaughtering his way through the lower bracket and defeating players including Socke, MVP and MC. For those who want to know more of his accomplishments (and there are a lot of them!), check out his liquipedia at: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GanZiOne other quick update, due to popular demand and reconsideration from FRB's creator Barrin, 6m Entombed Valley has been removed from the official FRB map pool, and will be therefore also be removed from the FRB Grand Tournament map pool. The difficulty in taking and holding bases, weirdness with destructible rocks and general closeness of the map made it less successful as a FRB map than had been originally hoped, and it will be replaced by the new map 6m Braxis Delta by Barrin. For more information on that, check out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325475The full list of professional players who are taking part is now: col.Ganzi, is.Axslav, vileIllusion, coL.Goswser, GoSuViBE, NrGLuckyFool, cvgFitzyHere, NMxMasa, HeavensLighT and ClashShew. However, if you're a community member hoping to take part in the tournament don't despair! There are still slots left and we'll be picking from the best community members to fill them in the brackets released this Friday, April 6th!
Well this is boss as fuck. Totally will tune in for some of this
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GanZi? Wow. Shit just got real.
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A huge number of professional players have joined the tournament, including col.Ganzi, is.Axslav, vileIllusion, coL.Goswser, GoSuViBE, NrGLuckyFool, cvgFitzyHere, NMxMasa, HeavensLighT and ClashShew! Huge respect for them and any other pro who joins this noble cause that could help improve the game we all love.
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We're pumped to have Ganzi and the rest of these amazing players! The brackets aren't completely full yet, but does anyone have any early predictions?
Check the OP for full, up to date info!
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I predict ganzi destroying everyone
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On April 04 2012 10:36 goswser wrote:I predict ganzi destroying everyone 
He's certainly a favorite, but it will be interesting to see if anyone has a specific plan cooked up for these different FRB maps!
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I'm voting for tgun to take the whole thing. I think his play style greatly caters to a setting like this. Tgun fighting :D
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This seems like a great idea. Not sure if viable without some balancing adjustments tough.
Good Luck!
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Can we set up a donation link so we can add to the prize pool? I'd like to see if we can entice more Koreans or some of the tip-top foreigners. Or even pay one of the high-profile casters so we can get huge exposure.
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On March 27 2012 02:40 chuky500 wrote: I don't really see why there needs to be a tournament to study whether less minerals and geisers is balanced. It's kind of obvious it shifts the balance towards Zergs and Terran since they benefit the most from more hatches and orbitals (more larva and mules, hatches are cheaper, cc can lift and mine other bases later). Zergs will also benefit from the fact that 1 rich gas now cost 25 minerals + 1 drone compared to 50 minerals + 2 drones.
The game has been balanced around 2 gas geisers and 8 mineral patches mostly because it allows more variety in gameplay, I don't have anything against smaller bases here and there like on crevasse or daybreak but it can not be the norm unless you also change the cost of buildings and units.
Tournaments helping the mapping community are a good idea but they should play all kinds of maps not just trying to prove Barrin's ideas, like when he said the only viable symmetry was the "VARS", the true left right symmetry. If these maps work I'll make maps with 3 patches 1 gas, and gold bases with 1 gold patch and 1 gas and we'll see if games are more interresting.
You are missing completely the point. Game is imbalanced due to "more obrital" when you do not need 70 workers but only 20 with 6 cc and keep up.
I do not wanna compare BW and SC2 but in this case I have. In zegs 2 base play you would have 1 macro hatch = 9 larva now you can have 12 larva with 2 hatch. You say imbalanced? Maybe, it gives protoss a good fast saturation and 4 gate will turn into 3 gate :D:D:D but other than that i think it is ok.6m1g is to force you into expanding instead of turtle mode on 2 base. Which promotes multitasking and map awareness, thus better players. Also 1 base all ins become weaker.
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I really cannot wait for this. This could be the first step in a huge shift in this game's history.
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On April 04 2012 14:51 Bijan wrote: Can we set up a donation link so we can add to the prize pool? I'd like to see if we can entice more Koreans or some of the tip-top foreigners. Or even pay one of the high-profile casters so we can get huge exposure.
Hey thanks for your interest in donating to the prize pool! Currently we have capped the out the prize pool as it's just the first tournament and we want to see how successful it is. If the tournament ends up being a huge success and we do another one, we'll definitely make sure the information for a paypal is available for those who want to donate. Thanks again buddy.
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On April 04 2012 15:05 Pull wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 14:51 Bijan wrote: Can we set up a donation link so we can add to the prize pool? I'd like to see if we can entice more Koreans or some of the tip-top foreigners. Or even pay one of the high-profile casters so we can get huge exposure. Hey thanks for your interest in donating to the prize pool! Currently we have capped the out the prize pool as it's just the first tournament and we want to see how successful it is. If the tournament ends up being a huge success and we do another one, we'll definitely make sure the information for a paypal is available for those who want to donate. Thanks again buddy.
I'm looking forward to this more than IPL4 at the moment. The idea that this could snowball into real change (if it plays out how we want it to) is super exciting.
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hmmm, i dunno about using non-tested maps like devolution. Using maps like shakuras and TDA with 6m1g should be good but we don't know the balance of these untested maps so yeah. I feel like the "test" for 6m1g would be greatly improved if there weren't so many factors to consider such as map balance.
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Actually, in a lot of ways the current ladder maps are even less tested than ones like Devolution and Braxis Delta, just because they were never designed for the FRB variant. While maps like Devolution are less well known to the community, they were designed with FRB in mind, and are generally more friendly to the kind of gameplay it encourages. That's not to say that 6m Tal'Darim and 6m Shakuras Plateau are bad maps for the variant! Indeed, we think they both work quite well, but for example, we just removed 6m Entombed Valley from the map pool because the base layout, ramps and destructible rocks just didn't quite work for FRB. This tournament will be a big proving ground, and we'll be carefully taking note of how maps perform for future events.
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