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How will this tournament be played?
Are there online stages?
128 players seems like too much for a two day event.
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Groups then groups then bracket - It's on liquipedia
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On April 13 2012 09:02 Champloo wrote:
Can anyone confirm this isn't the final player list?
Yes, Acer just published that they will send Elfi and Nerchio, and they are not at the list at all: http://www.aceresport.com/uk/news/406.htm
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We just received word that full player list with groups will be announced 1-2 days before the event
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On April 04 2012 06:29 hugge wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 06:25 Diamond wrote:
Players, organizers, and fans all came to me and told me "we won't use your maps until they are properly tested by good players." I went and solved that problem, don't place the blame on tournaments like Dreamhack because other map teams did not choose to follow suit. That is their fault and theirs alone. Also. Please note that Diamond didn´t contact DH. I, as admin contacted him about a few maps i was interested i and wanted them to be "tournament-fixed" with depots, spacesharks and such. And we worked from there. Please also note that this is a open tournament, we need a map-pool that has something for everyone, some old, some new and something very new. We also wanted to test something new out, lets see how it roll. If its no goodwe change. We will of course monitor everything closely and see what hit homes.
You added spacesharks? WOW NICE THEN EVERY ISSUE IS SOLVED :D Maybe next time you should ask some pros before picking maps. There is a reason why IPL and GSL didn't add 4 player maps with all spawns. Since you cleary don't understand why I can explain it for you. Being able to scout or not is a big point in the game. With 4 player maps all spawns you have to scout very early to be 100% sure to get any intel but if you do you sacrafice alot of eco which turns into a very luckbased game. Very new things would be maps GSL and IPL played already. These maps have already been played in online tournaments before being played in IPL Main even and GSL. Fans would most likely recognize them a little bit at least. I don't understand why you need something 'very new'. Players are obviously not happy to play on luckbased maps they never seen before. Fans probably don't enjoy watching games on new maps they never ever seen before and never ever will play. At least I don't. The only satisfaction I can see is for the admin who got to pick the map so he got to feel happy he did something. Just my point, hope it will be a tournament which nice admins  Once again, thanks for spacesharks, at least the comment put a big smile on my face ^___________^
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Oh, might be able to come to this one! Been to Annexet to some concerts in my day...
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Looks like Stephano won't be at Dreamhack.
MillStephano
Leaving home for 1 week of ski holydays after whats i'll be streaming for 2 weeks almost every day ! Hope i wont break my arms !
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What if he's going to have ski holydays....in Sweden?
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On April 13 2012 23:20 SaSe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 06:29 hugge wrote:On April 04 2012 06:25 Diamond wrote:
Players, organizers, and fans all came to me and told me "we won't use your maps until they are properly tested by good players." I went and solved that problem, don't place the blame on tournaments like Dreamhack because other map teams did not choose to follow suit. That is their fault and theirs alone. Also. Please note that Diamond didn´t contact DH. I, as admin contacted him about a few maps i was interested i and wanted them to be "tournament-fixed" with depots, spacesharks and such. And we worked from there. Please also note that this is a open tournament, we need a map-pool that has something for everyone, some old, some new and something very new. We also wanted to test something new out, lets see how it roll. If its no goodwe change. We will of course monitor everything closely and see what hit homes. You added spacesharks? WOW NICE THEN EVERY ISSUE IS SOLVED :D Maybe next time you should ask some pros before picking maps. There is a reason why IPL and GSL didn't add 4 player maps with all spawns. Since you cleary don't understand why I can explain it for you. Being able to scout or not is a big point in the game. With 4 player maps all spawns you have to scout very early to be 100% sure to get any intel but if you do you sacrafice alot of eco which turns into a very luckbased game. Very new things would be maps GSL and IPL played already. These maps have already been played in online tournaments before being played in IPL Main even and GSL. Fans would most likely recognize them a little bit at least. I don't understand why you need something 'very new'. Players are obviously not happy to play on luckbased maps they never seen before. Fans probably don't enjoy watching games on new maps they never ever seen before and never ever will play. At least I don't. The only satisfaction I can see is for the admin who got to pick the map so he got to feel happy he did something. Just my point, hope it will be a tournament which nice admins Once again, thanks for spacesharks, at least the comment put a big smile on my face ^___________^
Isn't Entombed Valley a 4 player map with all spawns enabled? 4 Player maps worked pretty well so far in tournaments both in SC2 and in Broodwar, so it just sounds like a matter of personal preference to me.
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On April 14 2012 00:07 TBO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 23:20 SaSe wrote:On April 04 2012 06:29 hugge wrote:On April 04 2012 06:25 Diamond wrote:
Players, organizers, and fans all came to me and told me "we won't use your maps until they are properly tested by good players." I went and solved that problem, don't place the blame on tournaments like Dreamhack because other map teams did not choose to follow suit. That is their fault and theirs alone. Also. Please note that Diamond didn´t contact DH. I, as admin contacted him about a few maps i was interested i and wanted them to be "tournament-fixed" with depots, spacesharks and such. And we worked from there. Please also note that this is a open tournament, we need a map-pool that has something for everyone, some old, some new and something very new. We also wanted to test something new out, lets see how it roll. If its no goodwe change. We will of course monitor everything closely and see what hit homes. You added spacesharks? WOW NICE THEN EVERY ISSUE IS SOLVED :D Maybe next time you should ask some pros before picking maps. There is a reason why IPL and GSL didn't add 4 player maps with all spawns. Since you cleary don't understand why I can explain it for you. Being able to scout or not is a big point in the game. With 4 player maps all spawns you have to scout very early to be 100% sure to get any intel but if you do you sacrafice alot of eco which turns into a very luckbased game. Very new things would be maps GSL and IPL played already. These maps have already been played in online tournaments before being played in IPL Main even and GSL. Fans would most likely recognize them a little bit at least. I don't understand why you need something 'very new'. Players are obviously not happy to play on luckbased maps they never seen before. Fans probably don't enjoy watching games on new maps they never ever seen before and never ever will play. At least I don't. The only satisfaction I can see is for the admin who got to pick the map so he got to feel happy he did something. Just my point, hope it will be a tournament which nice admins Once again, thanks for spacesharks, at least the comment put a big smile on my face ^___________^ Isn't Entombed Valley a 4 player map with all spawns enabled? 4 Player maps worked pretty well so far in tournaments both in SC2 and in Broodwar, so it just sounds like a matter of personal preference to me.
I think It's forced cross in GSL, not sure though.
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On April 14 2012 00:22 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 00:07 TBO wrote:On April 13 2012 23:20 SaSe wrote:On April 04 2012 06:29 hugge wrote:On April 04 2012 06:25 Diamond wrote:
Players, organizers, and fans all came to me and told me "we won't use your maps until they are properly tested by good players." I went and solved that problem, don't place the blame on tournaments like Dreamhack because other map teams did not choose to follow suit. That is their fault and theirs alone. Also. Please note that Diamond didn´t contact DH. I, as admin contacted him about a few maps i was interested i and wanted them to be "tournament-fixed" with depots, spacesharks and such. And we worked from there. Please also note that this is a open tournament, we need a map-pool that has something for everyone, some old, some new and something very new. We also wanted to test something new out, lets see how it roll. If its no goodwe change. We will of course monitor everything closely and see what hit homes. You added spacesharks? WOW NICE THEN EVERY ISSUE IS SOLVED :D Maybe next time you should ask some pros before picking maps. There is a reason why IPL and GSL didn't add 4 player maps with all spawns. Since you cleary don't understand why I can explain it for you. Being able to scout or not is a big point in the game. With 4 player maps all spawns you have to scout very early to be 100% sure to get any intel but if you do you sacrafice alot of eco which turns into a very luckbased game. Very new things would be maps GSL and IPL played already. These maps have already been played in online tournaments before being played in IPL Main even and GSL. Fans would most likely recognize them a little bit at least. I don't understand why you need something 'very new'. Players are obviously not happy to play on luckbased maps they never seen before. Fans probably don't enjoy watching games on new maps they never ever seen before and never ever will play. At least I don't. The only satisfaction I can see is for the admin who got to pick the map so he got to feel happy he did something. Just my point, hope it will be a tournament which nice admins Once again, thanks for spacesharks, at least the comment put a big smile on my face ^___________^ Isn't Entombed Valley a 4 player map with all spawns enabled? 4 Player maps worked pretty well so far in tournaments both in SC2 and in Broodwar, so it just sounds like a matter of personal preference to me. I think It's forced cross in GSL, not sure though.
It's not
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I'm confused. Is there an open bracket, or is it just pools?
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On April 14 2012 03:31 wajd wrote:
I'm confused. Is there an open bracket, or is it just pools?
It is just pools until the last 16, who will make it into the bracket.
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On April 14 2012 03:34 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:31 wajd wrote:
I'm confused. Is there an open bracket, or is it just pools? It is just pools until the last 16, who will make it into the bracket.
Oh ok. 128 players, 4 players in 32 pools... I see the math now.
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On April 14 2012 00:24 pPingu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 00:22 Eee wrote:On April 14 2012 00:07 TBO wrote:On April 13 2012 23:20 SaSe wrote:On April 04 2012 06:29 hugge wrote:On April 04 2012 06:25 Diamond wrote:
Players, organizers, and fans all came to me and told me "we won't use your maps until they are properly tested by good players." I went and solved that problem, don't place the blame on tournaments like Dreamhack because other map teams did not choose to follow suit. That is their fault and theirs alone. Also. Please note that Diamond didn´t contact DH. I, as admin contacted him about a few maps i was interested i and wanted them to be "tournament-fixed" with depots, spacesharks and such. And we worked from there. Please also note that this is a open tournament, we need a map-pool that has something for everyone, some old, some new and something very new. We also wanted to test something new out, lets see how it roll. If its no goodwe change. We will of course monitor everything closely and see what hit homes. You added spacesharks? WOW NICE THEN EVERY ISSUE IS SOLVED :D Maybe next time you should ask some pros before picking maps. There is a reason why IPL and GSL didn't add 4 player maps with all spawns. Since you cleary don't understand why I can explain it for you. Being able to scout or not is a big point in the game. With 4 player maps all spawns you have to scout very early to be 100% sure to get any intel but if you do you sacrafice alot of eco which turns into a very luckbased game. Very new things would be maps GSL and IPL played already. These maps have already been played in online tournaments before being played in IPL Main even and GSL. Fans would most likely recognize them a little bit at least. I don't understand why you need something 'very new'. Players are obviously not happy to play on luckbased maps they never seen before. Fans probably don't enjoy watching games on new maps they never ever seen before and never ever will play. At least I don't. The only satisfaction I can see is for the admin who got to pick the map so he got to feel happy he did something. Just my point, hope it will be a tournament which nice admins Once again, thanks for spacesharks, at least the comment put a big smile on my face ^___________^ Isn't Entombed Valley a 4 player map with all spawns enabled? 4 Player maps worked pretty well so far in tournaments both in SC2 and in Broodwar, so it just sounds like a matter of personal preference to me. I think It's forced cross in GSL, not sure though. It's not
Dunno about the GSL version, but ESL Entombed Valley is definitly forced cross.
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On April 13 2012 22:11 hugman wrote:
How will this tournament be played?
Are there online stages?
128 players seems like too much for a two day event.
Didn't IPL4 just finish a 128 player double elim open bracket down to 4 players in a single day? I believe so!
Albeit it took 14.5 hours to complete but it happened! I hope there won't be too much downtime between matches. In the past the casters were able to jump into hot matches mid-series. and hopefully with a dedicated emcee/host there will be more player interviews!
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Wow I hope team Millenium has insurance!
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On April 14 2012 00:24 pPingu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 00:22 Eee wrote:On April 14 2012 00:07 TBO wrote:On April 13 2012 23:20 SaSe wrote:On April 04 2012 06:29 hugge wrote:On April 04 2012 06:25 Diamond wrote:
Players, organizers, and fans all came to me and told me "we won't use your maps until they are properly tested by good players." I went and solved that problem, don't place the blame on tournaments like Dreamhack because other map teams did not choose to follow suit. That is their fault and theirs alone. Also. Please note that Diamond didn´t contact DH. I, as admin contacted him about a few maps i was interested i and wanted them to be "tournament-fixed" with depots, spacesharks and such. And we worked from there. Please also note that this is a open tournament, we need a map-pool that has something for everyone, some old, some new and something very new. We also wanted to test something new out, lets see how it roll. If its no goodwe change. We will of course monitor everything closely and see what hit homes. You added spacesharks? WOW NICE THEN EVERY ISSUE IS SOLVED :D Maybe next time you should ask some pros before picking maps. There is a reason why IPL and GSL didn't add 4 player maps with all spawns. Since you cleary don't understand why I can explain it for you. Being able to scout or not is a big point in the game. With 4 player maps all spawns you have to scout very early to be 100% sure to get any intel but if you do you sacrafice alot of eco which turns into a very luckbased game. Very new things would be maps GSL and IPL played already. These maps have already been played in online tournaments before being played in IPL Main even and GSL. Fans would most likely recognize them a little bit at least. I don't understand why you need something 'very new'. Players are obviously not happy to play on luckbased maps they never seen before. Fans probably don't enjoy watching games on new maps they never ever seen before and never ever will play. At least I don't. The only satisfaction I can see is for the admin who got to pick the map so he got to feel happy he did something. Just my point, hope it will be a tournament which nice admins Once again, thanks for spacesharks, at least the comment put a big smile on my face ^___________^ Isn't Entombed Valley a 4 player map with all spawns enabled? 4 Player maps worked pretty well so far in tournaments both in SC2 and in Broodwar, so it just sounds like a matter of personal preference to me. I think It's forced cross in GSL, not sure though. It's not
It's Forced 3 spawns. You can't start left/right to each other
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Is liquid going to be at DH? Any word on this?
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Just a few days left, when are the final players announced?
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