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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 00:18:23
March 19 2012 00:18 GMT
#101
On March 19 2012 09:16 ftd.rain wrote:
3 upgrade advantage, food advantage, what for?


One upgrade advantage, food advantage, stood in place without kiting and one ghost? Or wait, let me guess, in a balanced game a non-kiting terran army without EMP should be able to win while being flanked into a corner? so imba.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 00:18:52
March 19 2012 00:18 GMT
#102
On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote:
I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons


lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D

And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
March 19 2012 00:18 GMT
#103
ALL PROTOSS SEMIFINALS!!!! LETS GO lol
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
March 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#104
Naniwa and Thorzain always produce such sick games.
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
March 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#105
omg so many Protoss. Ret is our last hope.
"That's not your main base Stardust.....Stardust.....that's not your main" Sayle
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
March 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#106
rofl all protoss semifinals. We are never going to hear the end of this. Embrace our role as the new terran.
Hi
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
March 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#107
On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote:
I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons


lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D

And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing.

archons aren't really for DPS, more for tanking, but yes, i agree.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
March 19 2012 00:20 GMT
#108
On March 19 2012 09:19 W2 wrote:
rofl all protoss semifinals. We are never going to hear the end of this. Embrace our role as the new terran.

protoss op! xD

sad marine soon?
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
March 19 2012 00:21 GMT
#109
On March 19 2012 09:20 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:19 W2 wrote:
rofl all protoss semifinals. We are never going to hear the end of this. Embrace our role as the new terran.

protoss op! xD

sad marine soon?


Hell no. Marines aren't pussies.

We'll be the pissed off marines.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
March 19 2012 00:21 GMT
#110
On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote:
I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons


lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D

And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing.


Your first point is not really true.. Feedback has 9 range.
Your second point is valid, but I still wonder if a terran without medivac energy is worth it
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
borny
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China481 Posts
March 19 2012 00:21 GMT
#111
why is there no liquidpedia entry for this tourny ?
Naniwa . July . Morrow . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Go STARTALE!
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
March 19 2012 00:22 GMT
#112
Assuming we get an all toss semi finals IDK who wins the tournament then, out of the players left I'm not sure who actually has the best PvP and I'm too lazy to look up stats.

Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
March 19 2012 00:23 GMT
#113
On March 19 2012 09:19 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:
On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote:
I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons


lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D

And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing.

archons aren't really for DPS, more for tanking, but yes, i agree.


Its a mix of tanking and DPS, but they are definitely more important for dps, since chargelots are the real tanks. (bonus damage against bio and splash)
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
March 19 2012 00:23 GMT
#114
On March 19 2012 09:21 dangerjoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:
On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote:
I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons


lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D

And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing.


Your first point is not really true.. Feedback has 9 range.
Your second point is valid, but I still wonder if a terran without medivac energy is worth it

not really, they just become wasted supply while they regenerate.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
March 19 2012 00:25 GMT
#115
On March 19 2012 09:21 dangerjoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:
On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote:
I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons


lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D

And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing.


Your first point is not really true.. Feedback has 9 range.
Your second point is valid, but I still wonder if a terran without medivac energy is worth it


Stim a few mm and kill the HT=no problem...maybe in diamond league you can do this stuff, but even then spending those extra APM on something else would be better and its just way too risky.
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
March 19 2012 00:26 GMT
#116
On March 19 2012 09:18 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:16 ftd.rain wrote:
3 upgrade advantage, food advantage, what for?


One upgrade advantage, food advantage, stood in place without kiting and one ghost? Or wait, let me guess, in a balanced game a non-kiting terran army without EMP should be able to win while being flanked into a corner? so imba.

He had +2 ship weapons, ergo a 3 upgrade advantage, and let's not forget the only thing worth mentioning about that game, thorzain's very unique positioning abuse that gave him a good amount of kills for free, but in the end didn't matter at all, he also had more than 1 ghost.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
March 19 2012 00:26 GMT
#117
On March 19 2012 09:22 ladyumbra wrote:
Assuming we get an all toss semi finals IDK who wins the tournament then, out of the players left I'm not sure who actually has the best PvP and I'm too lazy to look up stats.


I think JYP would be the favourite, but they're all pretty well known for being good at PvP, except maybe Parting, but thats only because he's Korean and naturally gets compared to players like Oz and MC.
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
March 19 2012 00:28 GMT
#118
All semis incoming!
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
March 19 2012 00:28 GMT
#119
On March 19 2012 09:26 ftd.rain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:18 Heavenly wrote:
On March 19 2012 09:16 ftd.rain wrote:
3 upgrade advantage, food advantage, what for?


One upgrade advantage, food advantage, stood in place without kiting and one ghost? Or wait, let me guess, in a balanced game a non-kiting terran army without EMP should be able to win while being flanked into a corner? so imba.

He had +2 ship weapons, ergo a 3 upgrade advantage, and let's not forget the only thing worth mentioning about that game, thorzain's very unique positioning abuse that gave him a good amount of kills for free, but in the end didn't matter at all, he also had more than 1 ghost.


rofl ye right lets count +2 ship weapons as a +2 upgrade advantage... pretty sure those +2 vikings really made a difference against naniwa's 1 colossus. thorzain would've won if he spend a few hundred minerals on bunkers, since nani was kinda allin off his 3 bases... or at least he should build a few raxes near his 3rd to make it harder for nani to micro and to create less attacking space for his chargelots.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 19 2012 00:28 GMT
#120
On March 19 2012 09:26 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 09:22 ladyumbra wrote:
Assuming we get an all toss semi finals IDK who wins the tournament then, out of the players left I'm not sure who actually has the best PvP and I'm too lazy to look up stats.


I think JYP would be the favourite, but they're all pretty well known for being good at PvP, except maybe Parting, but thats only because he's Korean and naturally gets compared to players like Oz and MC.


I'd actually favour Nani in this scenario. I'm not too impressed by JYP's PvP and I admittedly haven't seen a lot of PvP from Parting.
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