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On March 19 2012 09:16 ftd.rain wrote:3 upgrade advantage, food advantage, what for?
One upgrade advantage, food advantage, stood in place without kiting and one ghost? Or wait, let me guess, in a balanced game a non-kiting terran army without EMP should be able to win while being flanked into a corner? so imba.
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On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons
lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D
And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing.
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ALL PROTOSS SEMIFINALS!!!! LETS GO lol
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Naniwa and Thorzain always produce such sick games.
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omg so many Protoss. Ret is our last hope.
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rofl all protoss semifinals. We are never going to hear the end of this. Embrace our role as the new terran.
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On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing. archons aren't really for DPS, more for tanking, but yes, i agree.
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On March 19 2012 09:19 W2 wrote: rofl all protoss semifinals. We are never going to hear the end of this. Embrace our role as the new terran. protoss op! xD
sad marine soon?
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On March 19 2012 09:20 vndods wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:19 W2 wrote: rofl all protoss semifinals. We are never going to hear the end of this. Embrace our role as the new terran. protoss op! xD sad marine soon?
Hell no. Marines aren't pussies.
We'll be the pissed off marines.
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On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing.
Your first point is not really true.. Feedback has 9 range. Your second point is valid, but I still wonder if a terran without medivac energy is worth it
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why is there no liquidpedia entry for this tourny ?
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Assuming we get an all toss semi finals IDK who wins the tournament then, out of the players left I'm not sure who actually has the best PvP and I'm too lazy to look up stats.
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On March 19 2012 09:19 vndods wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing. archons aren't really for DPS, more for tanking, but yes, i agree.
Its a mix of tanking and DPS, but they are definitely more important for dps, since chargelots are the real tanks. (bonus damage against bio and splash)
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On March 19 2012 09:21 dangerjoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing. Your first point is not really true.. Feedback has 9 range. Your second point is valid, but I still wonder if a terran without medivac energy is worth it not really, they just become wasted supply while they regenerate.
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On March 19 2012 09:21 dangerjoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:18 Kaitokid wrote:On March 19 2012 09:12 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand why protoss never feedback T's medivacs before morphing archons lol do you think a good Terran lets a few HT's walk close to his army and feedback his medivacs ? :D And in a huge engagements its not worth it, because this 1 feedback doesn't compensate for the lost DPS of the archon while 2 HT are morphing. Your first point is not really true.. Feedback has 9 range. Your second point is valid, but I still wonder if a terran without medivac energy is worth it
Stim a few mm and kill the HT=no problem...maybe in diamond league you can do this stuff, but even then spending those extra APM on something else would be better and its just way too risky.
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On March 19 2012 09:18 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:16 ftd.rain wrote:3 upgrade advantage, food advantage, what for? One upgrade advantage, food advantage, stood in place without kiting and one ghost? Or wait, let me guess, in a balanced game a non-kiting terran army without EMP should be able to win while being flanked into a corner? so imba. He had +2 ship weapons, ergo a 3 upgrade advantage, and let's not forget the only thing worth mentioning about that game, thorzain's very unique positioning abuse that gave him a good amount of kills for free, but in the end didn't matter at all, he also had more than 1 ghost.
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On March 19 2012 09:22 ladyumbra wrote: Assuming we get an all toss semi finals IDK who wins the tournament then, out of the players left I'm not sure who actually has the best PvP and I'm too lazy to look up stats.
I think JYP would be the favourite, but they're all pretty well known for being good at PvP, except maybe Parting, but thats only because he's Korean and naturally gets compared to players like Oz and MC.
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All semis incoming!
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On March 19 2012 09:26 ftd.rain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:18 Heavenly wrote:On March 19 2012 09:16 ftd.rain wrote:3 upgrade advantage, food advantage, what for? One upgrade advantage, food advantage, stood in place without kiting and one ghost? Or wait, let me guess, in a balanced game a non-kiting terran army without EMP should be able to win while being flanked into a corner? so imba. He had +2 ship weapons, ergo a 3 upgrade advantage, and let's not forget the only thing worth mentioning about that game, thorzain's very unique positioning abuse that gave him a good amount of kills for free, but in the end didn't matter at all, he also had more than 1 ghost.
rofl ye right lets count +2 ship weapons as a +2 upgrade advantage... pretty sure those +2 vikings really made a difference against naniwa's 1 colossus. thorzain would've won if he spend a few hundred minerals on bunkers, since nani was kinda allin off his 3 bases... or at least he should build a few raxes near his 3rd to make it harder for nani to micro and to create less attacking space for his chargelots.
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On March 19 2012 09:26 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:22 ladyumbra wrote: Assuming we get an all toss semi finals IDK who wins the tournament then, out of the players left I'm not sure who actually has the best PvP and I'm too lazy to look up stats.
I think JYP would be the favourite, but they're all pretty well known for being good at PvP, except maybe Parting, but thats only because he's Korean and naturally gets compared to players like Oz and MC.
I'd actually favour Nani in this scenario. I'm not too impressed by JYP's PvP and I admittedly haven't seen a lot of PvP from Parting.
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