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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:41 Gonlyrush22 wrote: LucifroN is one of the most talented players in Europe, if he had been focused on the game and not in the studies, would be winning tournaments. Lots of people like that in the foreigner's scene - have the ability to be the best, but don't because this career path sucks.  | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:36 KalWarkov wrote: now u get why everyone hypes lucifron when hes active for some weeks again :/ because he comes from nowhere, kills everyone and dissapears for months again... Yeah i had this same conversation with like 39847598374985 people last time he was active (DH Valencia/IEM New York time last year) in the IEM qualies he crushed MaNa 2-0, Beastyqt 2-0, LaLuSh 2-0, Stephano 2-0 then for some reason they let SjoW delay the finals for like 3 days and he lost He also crushed Nerchio 3-0 in a Go4sc2 finals and Nerchio said he was the best Terran in Europe and that he was glad LucifroN wasn't active much so he could actually win some events lolHe is always so underrated and i am 100% sure that if he took time off his studies he would be Stephano-esque (Ex: one of the only foreigners that would be able to match and beat top Koreans) | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:45 Valy wrote: Why is everyone hyping Lucifron, when Grubby already beat him 2-0 in the groupstages? Because he plays pretty well? | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:45 Azarkon wrote: Lots of people like that in the foreigner's scene - have the ability to be the best, but don't because this career path sucks. No there are not lots of people with LucifroN's ability in the foreign scene, which is why people post the comments above. Also i know for a fact that he wouldn't think the career path sucks, he was at the top of the WC3 scene for almost two years so he knows what it is like and spent a lot of time flying around the world to compete with the best of the best. He just wants to finish his studies first, which is a smart decision | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:40 LittLeD wrote: Completely out of context but this is starting to look like WC3 Blizzcon 2010 where LucifroN was pretty much an up-and-coming talent without any prior success against the mighty Grubby and managed to win. That was quite spectuacular to say the least. LucifroN has always been that guy with talents shooting through the roof. Sorry to nitpick but i think it was Blizzcon 08 or 09, he beat ToD and Grubby then lost the finals to Lyn?? | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:45 Valy wrote: Why is everyone hyping Lucifron, when Grubby already beat him 2-0 in the groupstages? Group stage doesn't matter anymore. It's like it never happened. See SjoW vs Vortix for one of the reasons why. | ||
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
Totally better Terran than ThorZain and Kas Problem is he seems to only play during holidays, instead seeking a Pro team and go full Time a Korea stay would make him a ridicolous Machine, who wins tournaments left and right. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:49 iAmBiGbiRd wrote: No there are not lots of people with LucifroN's ability in the foreign scene, which is why people post the comments above. Also i know for a fact that he wouldn't think the career path sucks, he was at the top of the WC3 scene for almost two years so he knows what it is like and spent a lot of time flying around the world to compete with the best of the best. He just wants to finish his studies first, which is a smart decision Lucifron is incredibly talented. Back during the IEM Kiev qualifiers (if I recall the event correctly) he beat Stephano 2-0. Rotti and I have said he could be the top EU guy for a long time. Problem is he doesn't really seem to care that much. | ||
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MavivaM
1535 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:54 GodOfWar wrote: LucifroN is as talented as Stephano imo Totally better Terran than ThorZain and Kas Problem is he seems to only play during holidays, instead seeking a Pro team and go full Time a Korea stay would make him a ridicolous Machine, who wins tournaments left and right. Hey hey hey, I hope you are using the capital letter to put on some emphasys on the word "machine" and not to compare him to a certain NA zerg... because otherwise your comparison could backfire ^^ | ||
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Denar
France1633 Posts
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:54 MrBitter wrote: Lucifron is incredibly talented. Back during the IEM Kiev qualifiers (if I recall the event correctly) he beat Stephano 2-0. Rotti and I have said he could be the top EU guy for a long time. Problem is he doesn't really seem to care that much. Hi Bitter!!! Yeah check my post just up from that, the games vs Stephano he showed some really sick Hellion drop micro and made 2-0 ing Stephano look pretty easy which i don't think many people could say nowadays lol. Although i think it was IEM New York qualies (I have no idea how i remember small details like that from like a year ago lol) YES, LUCIFRON SAID HE IS NOT GOING TO QUIT THIS TIME AND WILL START TAKING STARCRAFT MORE SERIOUSLY AGAIN!!!!!!!! WOOHOO, he is gonna wreck so much face | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 07 2012 02:49 iAmBiGbiRd wrote: No there are not lots of people with LucifroN's ability in the foreign scene, which is why people post the comments above. Also i know for a fact that he wouldn't think the career path sucks, he was at the top of the WC3 scene for almost two years so he knows what it is like and spent a lot of time flying around the world to compete with the best of the best. He just wants to finish his studies first, which is a smart decision There are a lot of people in the foreigner's scene who I think have the ability to become the best, but who are never going to put in the time. There aren't a lot of people with the raw talent of Lucifron and Stephano, but that's because their time:skill ratio is insane. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On April 07 2012 03:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote: Hi Bitter!!! Yeah check my post just up from that, the games vs Stephano he showed some really sick Hellion drop micro and made 2-0 ing Stephano look pretty easy which i don't think many people could say nowadays lol. Although i think it was IEM New York qualies (I have no idea how i remember small details like that from like a year ago lol) YES, LUCIFRON SAID HE IS NOT GOING TO QUIT THIS TIME AND WILL START TAKING STARCRAFT MORE SERIOUSLY AGAIN!!!!!!!! WOOHOO, he is gonna wreck so much face I remember he was rumoured to have blue flamed medivacs, but I have never gotten to see it. | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
On April 07 2012 03:00 MavivaM wrote: Hey hey hey, I hope you are using the capital letter to put on some emphasys on the word "machine" and not to compare him to a certain NA zerg... because otherwise your comparison could backfire ^^ german grammar, sry xD | ||
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luciusvlm
Spain134 Posts
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XKrIpTa
Spain10 Posts
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o)_Saurus
Germany260 Posts
Lucifron did win against 2 lesser known norwegians in groupstage1 and went 2nd at groupstage2 behind Grubby beating only 2 relativly unknown zergs (TvZ he claims to be his best matchup) but loosing 0-2 agsinst Grubby with bad macro (just look a few pages before in this thread. Then he got a decent opponent in merz which is also one of the weakest if not the weakest of all groupwinners. His only outstanding result was the 2-0 against morrow. What happens? People compare him to Stephano... I mean he might be good and talented, nothing to say about that - but really on Stephanos level? When he says on his own that he practiced quite much for this tournament? Don't understand me wrong, I also see him as a really good terran but at this current moment he is WAY below other euro topterrans. The "what... if.... might" thing doesn't really count. | ||
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Arvediu
Spain69 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On April 07 2012 03:37 o)_Saurus wrote:Don't understand me wrong, I also see him as a really good terran but at this current moment he is WAY below other euro topterrans. The "what... if.... might" thing doesn't really count. get off your high horse. (referring to the part of the post i didnt quote) also, the bolded is worth considering when he says that he is going to play seriously now; considering he can at least post half-decent results with no consistent practice (key word consistent, he comes in waves, that is incredibly hard and if he consistently plays he will be so much better its not even funny, note that also makes his statement about cramming for this tournament irrelevant). so now everyone is cheering for luci, and saying he was extremely talented, are you the same who agreed artosis when he said luci was a 1 base terran??? probably, although there are some who have known how good he is and others who were wc3 fans. | ||
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