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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 14:36:25
February 28 2012 14:21 GMT
#21
Working my axe over the grindstone for this one as we speak.
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ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
February 28 2012 14:22 GMT
#22
On February 28 2012 23:10 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:55 Peleus wrote:
On February 28 2012 21:47 Sated wrote:
Wouldn't the SEA players be better served having a chance to show how well they can perform in normal games against established players from other regions, instead of playing against them in a wonky tournament where results can be attributed to both random race determination and the ridiculous map-pool?

It also seems a waste of time to watch this tournament when none of the match-ups are going to be competitive (and hence less entertaining) given the silly maps.


Honestly, I was thinking the same thing when I first heard about this tournament a while ago. Then I took a step back and looked at it. At the moment there are plenty of opportunities for the SEA community to showcase their talent against 'the world', for example the Masters Cup which happens each month. Previously many of our SEA community took on the likes of Startale members and players from Complexity and still took the 1-2-3 in the event. Do you remember seeing the tournament? Probably not, because like it or not it's simply another blip on the massively saturated tournament scene of SC2.

Unless you have thousands of dollars worth of prizes it's hard to make an impact on the international scene. At least this way it's something different, something that stands out from the masses of other tournaments and we can all have some fun.

Let's face it, if you can only enjoy 'super competitive' games then there are still a couple of tournaments and 10's of streams and 100's of hours of high level play you can still watch on the same day of the tournament, of which I'm sure the vast majority you just won't be able to get too.

On the flip side, I'm sure there is only one tournament being played on novice blistering sands .... lol.

And this tournament is going to be a sub-par blip on the massively saturated tournament scene of SC2. I just don't see how this helps SEA players out any more than playing against these players in normal matches (and I also don't see how games can be entertaining on those maps, but that's a different issue altogether).

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:56 Ftrunkz wrote:
On February 28 2012 21:47 Sated wrote:
Wouldn't the SEA players be better served having a chance to show how well they can perform in normal games against established players from other regions, instead of playing against them in a wonky tournament where results can be attributed to both random race determination and the ridiculous map-pool?

It also seems a waste of time to watch this tournament when none of the match-ups are going to be competitive (and hence less entertaining) given the silly maps.

You missed the entire point of the tournament yo ={.

Looking forward to playing this for sure!

I thought the entire point of the tournament was to get more exposure for good SEA players?

"With this event, we aim to promote SEA and SEA eSports - showing the rest of the world that SEA know how to do it.. and have fun while we do! We hope to bring exposure to some of SEA's top players in a fun and exciting medium."

How can you show that SEA know how to do it when the games are on novice maps?

Good luck with the tournament an' all, but IMO the format is ridiculous.


I'm sad that you can't see the fun in it..

Sadly, the SEA scene is sooo small that this will be big for SEA, we will be showcasing the top players in SEA. The format is in place to show that we, while not being up to the top notch of the Kr scene, we know how to have fun! I hope people tune in, chill out and enjoy the show. It's not going to be the standard high quality games.. but it will be a great laugh.

If that doesn't interest you, sorry - but as it has been stated - a $350 tournament is a tiny blip - this 'Funny games' Style is our point of difference. We're not 'serious' about the builds and standard of play.. but I assure you, 200/200 Sentries or Viking Drops - can get rather funny to watch.

Maybe you should check it out if your still a bit sceptical - you might surprise yourself and catch yourself laughing at the games and enjoying it. Plus the stream give aways will be great for the viewers!
#1 ANZ SC2 Team Manager https://twitter.com/ChadMannSC2
Rossi
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia59 Posts
February 28 2012 14:32 GMT
#23
I'm excited! gotta get some crazy builds prepared!
Aye, Bapa de boopee?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46135 Posts
February 28 2012 14:47 GMT
#24
Cella and Machine fighting!!! :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ELYSiUMlol
Profile Joined November 2011
United States89 Posts
February 28 2012 16:01 GMT
#25
I really, really hope the "special map" is Shrinkage.
bay life
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 28 2012 16:21 GMT
#26
That is quite the banner my friend
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
February 28 2012 17:25 GMT
#27
I think you can have the funniest games in the world and still have no viewers if the caster isn't up to par. This was always the biggest differential to me - I'd always watch a stream over a low-profile tournament with a bad caster. I really recommend offering someone known $100 and good times/sex while cutting the prize pool a little next time you're organising an event.

That said, I've never heard of this caster you've announced. If he's good I'm sure people will follow. I don't really understand why SEA events always have a SEA caster though.
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 22:37:06
February 28 2012 22:36 GMT
#28
On February 28 2012 23:10 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:55 Peleus wrote:
On February 28 2012 21:47 Sated wrote:
Wouldn't the SEA players be better served having a chance to show how well they can perform in normal games against established players from other regions, instead of playing against them in a wonky tournament where results can be attributed to both random race determination and the ridiculous map-pool?

It also seems a waste of time to watch this tournament when none of the match-ups are going to be competitive (and hence less entertaining) given the silly maps.


Honestly, I was thinking the same thing when I first heard about this tournament a while ago. Then I took a step back and looked at it. At the moment there are plenty of opportunities for the SEA community to showcase their talent against 'the world', for example the Masters Cup which happens each month. Previously many of our SEA community took on the likes of Startale members and players from Complexity and still took the 1-2-3 in the event. Do you remember seeing the tournament? Probably not, because like it or not it's simply another blip on the massively saturated tournament scene of SC2.

Unless you have thousands of dollars worth of prizes it's hard to make an impact on the international scene. At least this way it's something different, something that stands out from the masses of other tournaments and we can all have some fun.

Let's face it, if you can only enjoy 'super competitive' games then there are still a couple of tournaments and 10's of streams and 100's of hours of high level play you can still watch on the same day of the tournament, of which I'm sure the vast majority you just won't be able to get too.

On the flip side, I'm sure there is only one tournament being played on novice blistering sands .... lol.

And this tournament is going to be a sub-par blip on the massively saturated tournament scene of SC2. I just don't see how this helps SEA players out any more than playing against these players in normal matches (and I also don't see how games can be entertaining on those maps, but that's a different issue altogether).

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:56 Ftrunkz wrote:
On February 28 2012 21:47 Sated wrote:
Wouldn't the SEA players be better served having a chance to show how well they can perform in normal games against established players from other regions, instead of playing against them in a wonky tournament where results can be attributed to both random race determination and the ridiculous map-pool?

It also seems a waste of time to watch this tournament when none of the match-ups are going to be competitive (and hence less entertaining) given the silly maps.

You missed the entire point of the tournament yo ={.

Looking forward to playing this for sure!

I thought the entire point of the tournament was to get more exposure for good SEA players?

"With this event, we aim to promote SEA and SEA eSports - showing the rest of the world that SEA know how to do it.. and have fun while we do! We hope to bring exposure to some of SEA's top players in a fun and exciting medium."

How can you show that SEA know how to do it when the games are on novice maps?

Good luck with the tournament an' all, but IMO the format is ridiculous.

The whole point is it's a ridiculous format, we aren't trying to show we have good players in SEA this tournament, as someone else said, there's like a tournament a week in which you can check out the SEA scene's players in with this kind of prize-pool if you wanted. The whole point of this tournament is just for the players to have fun and mess around and for viewers to see what it looks like when great players play offraces on island maps .

I understand your point of "But you could do other things that would further the SEA scene better" yeah, I agree, and those things are being done, but this is just to muck around and have fun and give people a chance to watch, if you cant see the fun in it then I feel sorry for you Mr.Buzzkillington.
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Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 00:27:32
February 29 2012 00:25 GMT
#29
On February 29 2012 02:25 Jehct wrote:
I think you can have the funniest games in the world and still have no viewers if the caster isn't up to par. This was always the biggest differential to me - I'd always watch a stream over a low-profile tournament with a bad caster. I really recommend offering someone known $100 and good times/sex while cutting the prize pool a little next time you're organising an event.

That said, I've never heard of this caster you've announced. If he's good I'm sure people will follow. I don't really understand why SEA events always have a SEA caster though.


Hey man, I'm the caster for this event and I was invited because I've been doing a fair bit for the SEA community lately and most people seem to enjoy what I do The creators of the event will be co-casting with me because they are the creators and also pretty awesome characters themselves. If you go here there's a link to some of my recent online VODs if you're interested.

On February 29 2012 07:36 Ftrunkz wrote:
I understand your point of "But you could do other things that would further the SEA scene better" yeah, I agree, and those things are being done, but this is just to muck around and have fun and give people a chance to watch, if you cant see the fun in it then I feel sorry for you Mr.Buzzkillington.


You're absolutely right, in fact SC2SEA has been running a pretty successful pro league over the past couple months where the pro teams go head to head. Casted some games ~11 hours ago with one of our great SEA casters (Zepph) and they were amazing Check the VODs on that bad boy here.
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
smithter
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia34 Posts
February 29 2012 00:28 GMT
#30
glhf! Will be watching <3
ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
February 29 2012 01:11 GMT
#31
Our casting team, Maynarde, Rogue and myself all know each other - so there will be chemistry between us. Maynarde is a primary caster for ACL (the MLG of Australia) and is possibly one of the best, up coming casters in the SEA scene. Myself and Rogue are, I hope, quite funny people with a crazy sense of humour. However, if you don't like us - we are organising, an additional 1-2 streams to cover all of the games.
#1 ANZ SC2 Team Manager https://twitter.com/ChadMannSC2
Manex
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia156 Posts
February 29 2012 01:38 GMT
#32
whats the bet the surprise map is kulas ravine??
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
February 29 2012 01:57 GMT
#33
Wish you got Filthy out of retirement for this one - the original Random player :3
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
February 29 2012 03:56 GMT
#34
On February 29 2012 10:57 deL wrote:
Wish you got Filthy out of retirement for this one - the original Random player :3

Filthy practically funny gamed every game he ever played, he would take this tournament with incredible ease if he played.
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
February 29 2012 04:11 GMT
#35
hjahaha hilarious idea.
Push 2 Harder
lachy89
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia264 Posts
February 29 2012 04:25 GMT
#36
This event sounds like a lot of fun, will def watch
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
February 29 2012 08:13 GMT
#37
On February 29 2012 10:38 Manex wrote:
whats the bet the surprise map is kulas ravine??


Steppes of War.
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ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
February 29 2012 08:20 GMT
#38
On February 29 2012 17:13 MonkSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 10:38 Manex wrote:
whats the bet the surprise map is kulas ravine??


Steppes of War.

Already got Novice Steps bro..

It will be the ultimate Troll match.. don't worry! >.<
#1 ANZ SC2 Team Manager https://twitter.com/ChadMannSC2
inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
February 29 2012 12:37 GMT
#39
On February 28 2012 23:10 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:55 Peleus wrote:
On February 28 2012 21:47 Sated wrote:
Wouldn't the SEA players be better served having a chance to show how well they can perform in normal games against established players from other regions, instead of playing against them in a wonky tournament where results can be attributed to both random race determination and the ridiculous map-pool?

It also seems a waste of time to watch this tournament when none of the match-ups are going to be competitive (and hence less entertaining) given the silly maps.


Honestly, I was thinking the same thing when I first heard about this tournament a while ago. Then I took a step back and looked at it. At the moment there are plenty of opportunities for the SEA community to showcase their talent against 'the world', for example the Masters Cup which happens each month. Previously many of our SEA community took on the likes of Startale members and players from Complexity and still took the 1-2-3 in the event. Do you remember seeing the tournament? Probably not, because like it or not it's simply another blip on the massively saturated tournament scene of SC2.

Unless you have thousands of dollars worth of prizes it's hard to make an impact on the international scene. At least this way it's something different, something that stands out from the masses of other tournaments and we can all have some fun.

Let's face it, if you can only enjoy 'super competitive' games then there are still a couple of tournaments and 10's of streams and 100's of hours of high level play you can still watch on the same day of the tournament, of which I'm sure the vast majority you just won't be able to get too.

On the flip side, I'm sure there is only one tournament being played on novice blistering sands .... lol.

And this tournament is going to be a sub-par blip on the massively saturated tournament scene of SC2. I just don't see how this helps SEA players out any more than playing against these players in normal matches (and I also don't see how games can be entertaining on those maps, but that's a different issue altogether).

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:56 Ftrunkz wrote:
On February 28 2012 21:47 Sated wrote:
Wouldn't the SEA players be better served having a chance to show how well they can perform in normal games against established players from other regions, instead of playing against them in a wonky tournament where results can be attributed to both random race determination and the ridiculous map-pool?

It also seems a waste of time to watch this tournament when none of the match-ups are going to be competitive (and hence less entertaining) given the silly maps.

You missed the entire point of the tournament yo ={.

Looking forward to playing this for sure!

I thought the entire point of the tournament was to get more exposure for good SEA players?

"With this event, we aim to promote SEA and SEA eSports - showing the rest of the world that SEA know how to do it.. and have fun while we do! We hope to bring exposure to some of SEA's top players in a fun and exciting medium."

How can you show that SEA know how to do it when the games are on novice maps?

Good luck with the tournament an' all, but IMO the format is ridiculous.


What
Oh okay.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 29 2012 12:45 GMT
#40
Man I'm saturated with all the guys in this forum knowing what's best for players, tournaments or events!

This is a tourney for the funsies, if you don't like it go and watch something else.. duh?


I hope to catch some of it because it seems like a very funny tournament ;D
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