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On February 26 2012 02:18 Baituri wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:14 nihlon wrote:On February 26 2012 02:13 Sroobz wrote:On February 26 2012 02:12 Mohdoo wrote: As much as I hate Stephano's attitude, I have to respect his play. He's like idra except he actually gets results. What about his attitude is like IdrA's? They are completely different in every way... Both are pretty cocky. In different ways though. IdrA is cocky in the way that people buy a Hummer. Stephano is cocky because he has confidence.
Both can be very arrogant, but IdrA's arrogance, even when he was winning, comes off as a veneer. He has a I'm better than the rest of these kids attitude but his play doesn't show it - not only does he lose games he shouldn't, he quits at the first sign of disadvantage and that's not what an arrogant player does if they really believed that they're better.
Stephano, on the other hand, plays like he talks. If he thinks you're worse he'll say it and prove it, and after gaining an advantage will start to troll. I think Stephano understands his own abilities better than IdrA does, and that's why his arrogance comes off as a sort of confidence rather than as a joke.
So yeah, it's like that.
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On February 26 2012 02:21 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:19 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 26 2012 02:18 mememolly wrote:On February 26 2012 02:17 DOUDOU wrote:On February 26 2012 02:14 WilDMousE wrote:On February 26 2012 02:13 Weson wrote: If only Stephano would care take a flight to korea and get that GSL trophy. He played quite well, but dont overreact... Stephano attitude is quite... Idra-ish please point me to a replay of stephano saying "you are terrible" and ragequitting hell, show me one game where ragequitted or insulted his opponent yeah, idra gets away with shit that would get other players bullied out of the community Yep, shitting on players gets people ousted by the SC2 community, like that one guy who won the Super Tournament... What was his name again? Didn't MMA win that one? Or MKP? I can't seem to remember.
You might be thinking of the Blizzard Cup or the GSL World Championship. Polt won the Super Tournament 4-0 against MMA.
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On February 26 2012 02:19 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:18 iamthedave wrote:On February 26 2012 02:13 Daray wrote:On February 26 2012 02:12 iamthedave wrote:On February 26 2012 02:10 setzer wrote: I'm convinced Stephano is the only consistently good non-Korean player in the world. Nah, both Naniwa and Thorzain are consistently good. Steph may be better than both of them, though. Has Naniwa won a match in GSL? I THINK he did eventually break his legendary GSL losing streak. Or is that my memory playing up on me? All you can say is that Stephano hasn't played there. Blizzard Cup isn't quite the same thing (though he did do best of the foreigners attending). Naniwa beat MVP and Nestea (twice) at MLG after all, but unless he can do the same in the GSL it isn't going to mean as much because foreign tourneys simply don't mean what GSL does (because it's way, way harder to win). Your memory, his only win was a PvP in the GSTL, in the individual tournaments he's winless..
Oh.
Well, he still always looks like a boss in foreign tourneys.
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On February 26 2012 02:21 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:20 mememolly wrote:On February 26 2012 02:19 poorcloud wrote: Anyone wondering how Puma has regressed as a player though? I mean hes literally stagnant, in korea, he hasn't even been able to beat code B zergs, It seems a long time ago when he was a top player who could beat MC in a BO7. it's pretty weird, EG maybe jumped the gun with signing him Don't be silly, he has done good for himself overall. Some top finishes at MLG, Finalist of Dreamhack Winter 2011, and winner of NASL S2. He went deep in this tournament and lost to a good opponent, nothing to be ashamed of. Jesus, some of you people are so quick to pull out the pitchforks.
PuMa is a player who's hated by a lot of people on this forum, he's obviously achieved a ton and his one of the highest money earners in sc2 history, and has continued to rake in the prize money since joining EG.
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On February 26 2012 02:24 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:23 Chunhyang wrote:On February 26 2012 02:20 Zeborg wrote:On February 26 2012 02:18 beamingrobot wrote:On February 26 2012 02:17 BadBinky wrote:On February 26 2012 02:16 poorcloud wrote: Lol i guess people are just comparing stephano to flash just for jest? LOL. Stephano is the first sc2 bonjwa ofcourse people compare him to flash. I'll assume that you're trolling and not know what a bonjwa is. A lot of times the people who put Stephano on a pedastal like that aren't really Stephano fans; they're just doing that to get people like you to dislike Stephano fans. I don't think you understand. He really is, arguably, the best Zerg in the world. yeah better than drg suuuuuuure He beat DRG in a best of one. He is better than him.. duh... >.< *flawless logic*
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On February 26 2012 02:22 usethis2 wrote: I'm sorry but I've missed most of the games played in this tournament. Does anyone know whether they release replays? Like IEM which uploads replays real-time.
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On February 26 2012 02:23 Severus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:19 Youtakenocandle wrote: Could someone point me to a video that shows why Flash is such a god to some people here? Didn't follow BW. Flash is the best of the 5 bonjwas. Flash holds the longest winning streak for both TvT (22 wins) and TvP (13 wins) in so called “regular games”.Flash is the most successful player in the history of progaming in terms of qualification. After his 2010 achievements, Flash was nicknamed God Young-Ho by Korean fans. According to TLPD Flash is currently the only player with a winrate greater than 70% in all of his matchups. Now he is 14:0 in PL.
For someone who followed SC2 and not BW the easiest comparison to make is with MVP last year, only multiplied 10fold. For the last couple of years, Flash has almost always been favoured to win the entire tournament, no matter who he's playing.
(also, funnily enough, one of MVP's claims to fame in BW was that he once took a game off flash, among other things. Yeah. Flash is so good that taking a game off of him can actually be considered a claim to fame :p)
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On February 26 2012 02:21 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:20 mememolly wrote:On February 26 2012 02:19 poorcloud wrote: Anyone wondering how Puma has regressed as a player though? I mean hes literally stagnant, in korea, he hasn't even been able to beat code B zergs, It seems a long time ago when he was a top player who could beat MC in a BO7. it's pretty weird, EG maybe jumped the gun with signing him Don't be silly, he has done good for himself overall. Some top finishes at MLG, Finalist of Dreamhack Winter 2011, and winner of NASL S2. He went deep in this tournament and lost to a good opponent, nothing to be ashamed of. Jesus, some of you people are so quick to pull out the pitchforks.
He's had pretty much the easiest group/bracket possible here (until Stephano).
Anyway, Puma was Code S material (or getting there) while he was on TSL. The results he's posting now just demonstrate a natural decline when the player is no longer in a 100% Korean training environment constantly.
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On February 26 2012 02:20 pripple wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:17 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 26 2012 02:13 pripple wrote: Stephano said before that he usually loses to polt, not confident against him in the finals, let's see how it goes They are 4-4 in 2012 and he 3-1'd Polt at the Eizo cup 1 month ago, I'm not sure about his definition of "usually" :| well that sounds promising, can't recall the exact words he said now but he definitely respected polt
in an earlier (~3 hours ago) interview with 2GD Stephano wasn't talking about official games, but rather practice games with Polt while Stephano was in Korea. Stephano had difficulties to beat Polt back then and is afraid to find difficulties again.
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On February 26 2012 02:25 Cpadolf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:21 Zane wrote:On February 26 2012 02:19 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 26 2012 02:18 mememolly wrote:On February 26 2012 02:17 DOUDOU wrote:On February 26 2012 02:14 WilDMousE wrote:On February 26 2012 02:13 Weson wrote: If only Stephano would care take a flight to korea and get that GSL trophy. He played quite well, but dont overreact... Stephano attitude is quite... Idra-ish please point me to a replay of stephano saying "you are terrible" and ragequitting hell, show me one game where ragequitted or insulted his opponent yeah, idra gets away with shit that would get other players bullied out of the community Yep, shitting on players gets people ousted by the SC2 community, like that one guy who won the Super Tournament... What was his name again? Didn't MMA win that one? Or MKP? I can't seem to remember. You might be thinking of the Blizzard Cup or the GSL World Championship. Polt won the Super Tournament 4-0 against MMA. Also Polt beat NesTea/MMA/NaNiWa at Blizzard Cup.
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Finals at 20:00 CET means it's in about 1:30 hour?
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I honestly believe that DRG and Stephano are BY FAR the best 2 zergs on the planet. DRG being SLIGHTLY ahead of Stephano of course.
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On February 26 2012 02:24 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:23 Severus_ wrote:On February 26 2012 02:19 Youtakenocandle wrote: Could someone point me to a video that shows why Flash is such a god to some people here? Didn't follow BW. Flash is the best of the 5 bonjwas. Flash holds the longest winning streak for both TvT (22 wins) and TvP (13 wins) in so called “regular games”.Flash is the most successful player in the history of progaming in terms of qualification. After his 2010 achievements, Flash was nicknamed God Young-Ho by Korean fans. According to TLPD Flash is currently the only player with a winrate greater than 70% in all of his matchups. Now he is 14:0 in PL. Where is the video?  You cannot explain all the reasons Flash is god in 1 mere mortal video! xD
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Once again, stephano is in a final of a tournament with a very good lineup, and yet still get bashed. Haters gonna hate.
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On February 26 2012 02:18 Fruitme wrote: What zerg is better than Stephano outside Korea???
none, i think nerchio could be better if he would leave school and play full time, Ret is also good, but nowhere near stephano
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On February 26 2012 02:21 Fermats_last wrote: I used to be a fan of Stephano untill I learned that all he wants from it is the money and he doesn't follow the scene whatsoever. Where is the passion? I don't understand why so many people root for him, yes his play is obviously stellar but I personally just don't find him interesting This. I heard he will retire as soon as possible (after collecting some good money).
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Woah, sound synch is way off
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On February 26 2012 02:25 Cpadolf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:21 Zane wrote:On February 26 2012 02:19 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 26 2012 02:18 mememolly wrote:On February 26 2012 02:17 DOUDOU wrote:On February 26 2012 02:14 WilDMousE wrote:On February 26 2012 02:13 Weson wrote: If only Stephano would care take a flight to korea and get that GSL trophy. He played quite well, but dont overreact... Stephano attitude is quite... Idra-ish please point me to a replay of stephano saying "you are terrible" and ragequitting hell, show me one game where ragequitted or insulted his opponent yeah, idra gets away with shit that would get other players bullied out of the community Yep, shitting on players gets people ousted by the SC2 community, like that one guy who won the Super Tournament... What was his name again? Didn't MMA win that one? Or MKP? I can't seem to remember. You might be thinking of the Blizzard Cup or the GSL World Championship. Polt won the Super Tournament 4-0 against MMA.
Way to not get the joke lol.
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On February 26 2012 02:25 Cpadolf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:21 Zane wrote:On February 26 2012 02:19 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 26 2012 02:18 mememolly wrote:On February 26 2012 02:17 DOUDOU wrote:On February 26 2012 02:14 WilDMousE wrote:On February 26 2012 02:13 Weson wrote: If only Stephano would care take a flight to korea and get that GSL trophy. He played quite well, but dont overreact... Stephano attitude is quite... Idra-ish please point me to a replay of stephano saying "you are terrible" and ragequitting hell, show me one game where ragequitted or insulted his opponent yeah, idra gets away with shit that would get other players bullied out of the community Yep, shitting on players gets people ousted by the SC2 community, like that one guy who won the Super Tournament... What was his name again? Didn't MMA win that one? Or MKP? I can't seem to remember. You might be thinking of the Blizzard Cup or the GSL World Championship. Polt won the Super Tournament 4-0 against MMA.
Mvp won the World Championship though...
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On February 26 2012 02:26 gds wrote: Finals at 20:00 CET means it's in about 1:30 hour?
Correct.
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