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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
February 24 2012 22:30 GMT
#4821
ugh brackets are bad....hero vs jyp. if jyp wins he wont go far and then polt or taeja going put early. sad
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 22:33:21
February 24 2012 22:31 GMT
#4822
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.

illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
February 24 2012 22:37 GMT
#4823
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:

Show nested quote +
MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



idrA cries about ZvP and Stephano prefers it lol
you live and you learn
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 24 2012 22:50 GMT
#4824
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

Show nested quote +
MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
February 24 2012 22:54 GMT
#4825
On February 25 2012 07:50 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.


You're just ridiculous...IMMVP is now a bad player since he went out of code S?
He's still considered the best player in the world, you know?
And Stephano, who had a much harder group in Blizard cup, went 2-2 when Naniwa went 0-4...Stop saying silly things.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
February 24 2012 22:55 GMT
#4826
On February 25 2012 07:54 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:50 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.


You're just ridiculous...IMMVP is now a bad player since he went out of code S?
He's still considered the best player in the world, you know?
And Stephano, who had a much harder group in Blizard cup, went 2-2 when Naniwa went 0-4...Stop saying silly things.


The guy never said IMMVP was a bad player though.

He's just using it as an example as to how hard GSL is.
Gameplay > Personality
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 22:56:40
February 24 2012 22:55 GMT
#4827
On February 25 2012 07:50 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.


Pardon me for interjecting, but Stephano did not get clowned at the Blizzcup. He finished 2-2 in a group with MVP, MC, DRG, and Hero, and just barely missed the tiebreakers due to head to head score. You can't really say he got clowned when Hero and Naniwa went 0-4, and Nestea went 1-3 with his only win against a probe rush.

Of course Stephano probably would not dominate the GSL, but I think he might stand a fighting chance. Still, the point is moot since Stephano does not have any interest in the GSL.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 24 2012 22:55 GMT
#4828
On February 25 2012 07:50 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.

Oh look it's the same type of post. Know what bear-killer ? Stephano isn't good at the GSL system. Still he went 2-2 and the person whom he lost the tiebreak to ended up being second (oh and he beat that guy) But yeah your argument make sense. Plus MVP is a total newbie right ?
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 24 2012 22:57 GMT
#4829
On February 25 2012 07:54 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:50 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.


You're just ridiculous...IMMVP is now a bad player since he went out of code S?
He's still considered the best player in the world, you know?
And Stephano, who had a much harder group in Blizard cup, went 2-2 when Naniwa went 0-4...Stop saying silly things.


Actually IMMVP isn't generally considered #1 anymore; a lot of people think it's MMA or DRG with MVP as second. Either way it's a close run thing now. In fact the TLPD right down there lists DRG/MMA/MVP in that order.

But since I wasn't saying what you claim I'm saying... I think you're the one saying silly things.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 24 2012 22:59 GMT
#4830
Bracket is really sick for Stephano. 2 protosss in a row and Taeja only in the final.
I think Stephano has a decent shot against anyone but Taeja. Maybe he is lucky and can avoid him at all. (Taeja looked weak vs toss)

Taejas part is really sick with 4 strong Koreans.
With this bracketfuck we may see 2 foreigners in the semis.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
February 24 2012 23:00 GMT
#4831
On February 25 2012 07:55 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:54 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:50 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.


You're just ridiculous...IMMVP is now a bad player since he went out of code S?
He's still considered the best player in the world, you know?
And Stephano, who had a much harder group in Blizard cup, went 2-2 when Naniwa went 0-4...Stop saying silly things.


The guy never said IMMVP was a bad player though.

He's just using it as an example as to how hard GSL is.

I never said he said it...that was just a question -_-
And it doesn't serve his argument at all since losing to a player who has dropped out of Code S doesn't mean getting clowned in Korea...
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
February 24 2012 23:00 GMT
#4832
"The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too. "
It has been since IPL and it didn't burst yet . Stephano is a top player . Deal with it .
Satiinifi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 23:03:20
February 24 2012 23:00 GMT
#4833
On February 24 2012 23:40 Weirdkid wrote:
Hahaha Santini.

Q: Do you have any special tactics planned for this game?
A: No, not really *blink blink blink blink blink*

I wonder I wonder..


blink blink happens when bright light or even a tiny breeze of air my eyes water up so easily, its really annoying but cant really help it, and btw didnt even know whitera passing the group was up to games against me, I just wanted to win him on lan :D also was abit dissappointed that I lost in such manner vs jyp when I alrdy had the first map in my pocket, now I also get why jyp was thanking me after game vs whitera!
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
February 24 2012 23:00 GMT
#4834
On February 25 2012 07:37 illsick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



idrA cries about ZvP and Stephano prefers it lol



Stephano has stated before he DOESNT go Mutas vs Protoss generally as they are imbalanced....lol


Funny though how different Stephano and Idra are towards the ZvP matchup lol.

I think Stephano wants Bling to won as he probably knows bling inside out!!! then again could also be a problem
Live and Let Die!
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 24 2012 23:01 GMT
#4835
On February 25 2012 08:00 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:55 wklbishop wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:54 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:50 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.


You're just ridiculous...IMMVP is now a bad player since he went out of code S?
He's still considered the best player in the world, you know?
And Stephano, who had a much harder group in Blizard cup, went 2-2 when Naniwa went 0-4...Stop saying silly things.


The guy never said IMMVP was a bad player though.

He's just using it as an example as to how hard GSL is.

I never said he said it...that was just a question -_-
And it doesn't serve his argument at all since losing to a player who has dropped out of Code S doesn't mean getting clowned in Korea...


Already said that 'clowned' was too strong a word.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
February 24 2012 23:01 GMT
#4836
Noooo bling might have to face Stephano next if they both pass the first round T.T
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
February 24 2012 23:07 GMT
#4837
On February 25 2012 08:00 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:55 wklbishop wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:54 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:50 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:17 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:02 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:57 Agathon wrote:
On February 25 2012 06:44 nojok wrote:
GSL & GSTL are nice because it keeps top foreigners to face top tier Koreans.


Since when Morrow, Idra, Desrow, ToD, Nanima or Huk are TODAY top foreigner?

6 month ago, ok, Huk, maybe Idra or Naniwa had his word to say. But today? There's no real top foreigner in Korea.


Two things are true of 2012's first GSL

1. Almost all of it has been amazing.

2. Foreigners have been crushed into powder and blown away on the wind (with the exception of Sen).


Sen lost badly in the second match too

But his point is that the very top foreigners - like Stephano - aren't playing in the GSL.


Last time we saw Stephano in GSL he got clowned, though. I'm long past saying 'ah, but if only x player was there we would see foreigner strength!'

Personally, I think that the nature of GSL - it being over a long period and having a format where players can prepare for each other well in advance - is crushing for foreigners because they're just not used to the pace and don't know how to take proper advantage of the format's foibles. There's plenty of times we've seen foreigners look amazing at MLG, often beating multiple Koreans, only to get destroyed instantly in Korea.

I mean, you have to remember the ongoing joke about Naniwa winning at MLG and then losing in the first round of Code A... four times in a row wasn't it?


The only one that got clowned is you by making this post, boy.

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



Hardly. I always find it funny when people start throwing around words like 'boy' as if they're internet hard guys. For all you know I'm 29 and made of adamantium with three black belts in several martial arts, living on a weapons cache I found one day while out hunting rabid grizzly bears.

Clowned was too strong a word, but he looked helpless against IMMVP - who went out of Code S into Code A this GSL. It's harder than its ever been, and I still question whether or not Stephano would be able to adapt to the full GSL schedule and format.

And yes I was referencing the Blizzard Cup.

Regardless, I see no reason to believe Stephano in GSL = Foreigner dominance. He is in the exact same boat Naniwa was before he went to Korea; a popular, good foreigner who hadn't proved himself in GSL but looks excellent in foreign tournaments. The Naniwa bubble was burst pretty thoroughly, and I'm certain Stephano's will be too.


You're just ridiculous...IMMVP is now a bad player since he went out of code S?
He's still considered the best player in the world, you know?
And Stephano, who had a much harder group in Blizard cup, went 2-2 when Naniwa went 0-4...Stop saying silly things.


The guy never said IMMVP was a bad player though.

He's just using it as an example as to how hard GSL is.

I never said he said it...that was just a question -_-
And it doesn't serve his argument at all since losing to a player who has dropped out of Code S doesn't mean getting clowned in Korea...


And I answered your question.

I'm confused at your responding to me about.
Gameplay > Personality
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 23:56:24
February 24 2012 23:55 GMT
#4838
Looks like Stephano has a red carped all the way through the finals, for once he has an easy bracket, lol!

I can't see how Real should be able to beat him.

Bling looked very sharp, and as Stephano says, he's his bitch. On his stream Bling must have played against Stephano around 50 times in the last week and I'm not sure he won more than once.

Puma's TvZ is not enough to compare to Stephano's ZvT (even if it's arguably his worst matchup).

If I had to take I guess I'd go for:

Welmu>Lucky (upset incoming!)
Mana>Cloud (mana's best MU)
Taeja<Polt (Polt slays Slayers usually)
JYP>Hero (so they're even after codeA)
Bling>Elfi (unless Bling didn't study Elfi's monodimensional PvP style)
Stephano>Real
Puma>Bischu
Diestar>Select (upset incoming!)

Welmu>Mana (another upset!)
Polt>JYP (they lost to Bling and DieStar in this matchup...I have no idea..)
Stephano>Bling
Puma>Diestar
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
February 25 2012 01:55 GMT
#4839
On February 25 2012 08:00 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:37 illsick wrote:
On February 25 2012 07:31 Vadrigar wrote:

MillStephano ‏ @MillStephano

Haha couldnt have got a better bracket, 2 protoss in a row, i guess a can start listening to "we are the champion" from the ro16!


Stephano already calling his Finnish bank.



idrA cries about ZvP and Stephano prefers it lol



Stephano has stated before he DOESNT go Mutas vs Protoss generally as they are imbalanced....lol


Funny though how different Stephano and Idra are towards the ZvP matchup lol.

I think Stephano wants Bling to won as he probably knows bling inside out!!! then again could also be a problem


From what i've read and heard Stephano has like 90% win rate against bling
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
February 25 2012 03:21 GMT
#4840
Oh man. Why does HerO have to meet JYP in EVERY single tourney they attended? . And the winner will have to face Polt/Taeja in the Quarter Final. A very hard bracket for him.
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
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