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On March 19 2012 14:58 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:54 SeventhPride wrote:
The reason why terrans feel they are "underpowered" is because they have been over powered for such a long time that when they are finally balance, it feels they take so much more effort to play. They don't want to put in the effort, they just want a easy game. I understand, its not your race, its you. even artosis says terrans who think they are underpowered should face the truth and understand their race is not underpowered. Its just the player who is too used to easy games that when it takes effort after terran is finally balance, they just can't do it. So far I haven't seen any other high level terran whine about the race being under-powered except Demuslim in the context of Terran vs Protoss.
Not talking about high level terrans dude, I am talking about the whiners on forums and bnet. No one at the top tier EVER complained about T v Z. They only complain about T v P yet all this low tier players think they are under powered against zerg. If you think zerg is easy play the race. I whine before that terran is op and switched to terran only to realise terran needs to do as much as zerg to win. So I stop saying its op. play other race before whining.
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On March 19 2012 14:51 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:40 TanTzoR wrote:
No one has a clue where to watch the vods of polt vs stephano? The stream was on twitch, so it was automatically archived as VODS. Here is the whole 13 hours long stream from today. http://www.twitch.tv/lonestarclash/b/312086279The winners bracket Final is at the 7hr mark. So jump to there. Obviously the Grand Final is later on at 11hr 10 mins mark. Definitely watch both series.
Thanks a lot, actually it didn't work but then I tried out an US proxy and it works ! 
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On March 19 2012 15:00 TanTzoR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:51 revel8 wrote:On March 19 2012 14:40 TanTzoR wrote:
No one has a clue where to watch the vods of polt vs stephano? The stream was on twitch, so it was automatically archived as VODS. Here is the whole 13 hours long stream from today. http://www.twitch.tv/lonestarclash/b/312086279The winners bracket Final is at the 7hr mark. So jump to there. Obviously the Grand Final is later on at 11hr 10 mins mark. Definitely watch both series. Thanks a lot, actually it didn't work but then I tried out an US proxy and it works !
Works for me, and I am in the UK.
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I was at the Clash today and it was awesome! Really fun event, the games were some of the best I've ever seen. Seriously, go back and watch the vods if you missed the stream. Was hoping for Polt to win, but Stephano played amazingly well.
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On March 19 2012 15:03 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 15:00 TanTzoR wrote:On March 19 2012 14:51 revel8 wrote:On March 19 2012 14:40 TanTzoR wrote:
No one has a clue where to watch the vods of polt vs stephano? The stream was on twitch, so it was automatically archived as VODS. Here is the whole 13 hours long stream from today. http://www.twitch.tv/lonestarclash/b/312086279The winners bracket Final is at the 7hr mark. So jump to there. Obviously the Grand Final is later on at 11hr 10 mins mark. Definitely watch both series. Thanks a lot, actually it didn't work but then I tried out an US proxy and it works ! Works for me, and I am in the UK.
I'm in France right now.
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Hehe, Axeltoss and Grubby got great chemistry together
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On March 19 2012 15:00 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:58 lisward wrote:On March 19 2012 14:54 SeventhPride wrote:
The reason why terrans feel they are "underpowered" is because they have been over powered for such a long time that when they are finally balance, it feels they take so much more effort to play. They don't want to put in the effort, they just want a easy game. I understand, its not your race, its you. even artosis says terrans who think they are underpowered should face the truth and understand their race is not underpowered. Its just the player who is too used to easy games that when it takes effort after terran is finally balance, they just can't do it. So far I haven't seen any other high level terran whine about the race being under-powered except Demuslim in the context of Terran vs Protoss. Not talking about high level terrans dude, I am talking about the whiners on forums and bnet. No one at the top tier EVER complained about T v Z. They only complain about T v P yet all this low tier players think they are under powered against zerg. If you think zerg is easy play the race. I whine before that terran is op and switched to terran only to realise terran needs to do as much as zerg to win. So I stop saying its op. play other race before whining.
Was actually adding on to what you said. I agree with you completely.
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On March 19 2012 15:11 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 15:00 SeventhPride wrote:On March 19 2012 14:58 lisward wrote:On March 19 2012 14:54 SeventhPride wrote:
The reason why terrans feel they are "underpowered" is because they have been over powered for such a long time that when they are finally balance, it feels they take so much more effort to play. They don't want to put in the effort, they just want a easy game. I understand, its not your race, its you. even artosis says terrans who think they are underpowered should face the truth and understand their race is not underpowered. Its just the player who is too used to easy games that when it takes effort after terran is finally balance, they just can't do it. So far I haven't seen any other high level terran whine about the race being under-powered except Demuslim in the context of Terran vs Protoss. Not talking about high level terrans dude, I am talking about the whiners on forums and bnet. No one at the top tier EVER complained about T v Z. They only complain about T v P yet all this low tier players think they are under powered against zerg. If you think zerg is easy play the race. I whine before that terran is op and switched to terran only to realise terran needs to do as much as zerg to win. So I stop saying its op. play other race before whining. Was actually adding on to what you said. I agree with you completely.
Oh I am sorry, you edited it so I didn't notice. ^^
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i would do anything for replays
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On March 19 2012 15:17 Kokujin wrote:
i would do anything for replays
Vods would be up tomorrow, so what will you do?
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On March 19 2012 13:11 Zzoram wrote:
1-2 Corruptors to work on medivacs seems so good, all Zergs should do it
Stephano's one of the few Zergs I see who builds decent numbers of Corruptors. I see Ret, Sheth, Idra among others only builld Corruptors for the sake of Brood Lords, then over build Brood lords only to lose them to a handful of anti air units.. Stephano's one of the few to maintain a decent number of them at all times. It really works since his push may not be as typically scary as other Zergs but his cost efficiency with his high tech units seem far greater than other Zergs from what I see.
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On March 19 2012 15:17 Kokujin wrote:
i would do anything for replays
Me too 
On March 19 2012 15:18 SeventhPride wrote:Vods would be up tomorrow, so what will you do?
Not an option for people like me with 25 kb/s download. An hour to load a 30 minute vod, pretty much.
Replays please!
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On March 19 2012 15:00 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:58 lisward wrote:On March 19 2012 14:54 SeventhPride wrote:
The reason why terrans feel they are "underpowered" is because they have been over powered for such a long time that when they are finally balance, it feels they take so much more effort to play. They don't want to put in the effort, they just want a easy game. I understand, its not your race, its you. even artosis says terrans who think they are underpowered should face the truth and understand their race is not underpowered. Its just the player who is too used to easy games that when it takes effort after terran is finally balance, they just can't do it. So far I haven't seen any other high level terran whine about the race being under-powered except Demuslim in the context of Terran vs Protoss. Not talking about high level terrans dude, I am talking about the whiners on forums and bnet. No one at the top tier EVER complained about T v Z. They only complain about T v P yet all this low tier players think they are under powered against zerg. If you think zerg is easy play the race. I whine before that terran is op and switched to terran only to realise terran needs to do as much as zerg to win. So I stop saying its op. play other race before whining.
It's ridiculous that the players from the race that has had the best win rates at tournament level since the game was released are bitching the most. Blizzard made a huge mistake by making terran the only complete race at release- it gave terran players a huge sense of entitlement. They got so used to having their race winning the majority of the tournaments and always having better win rates than the other two races. Now that the game is more balanced than before at pro level (check the TLPD winrates graph if you don't agree) they think there's something wrong. MKP took MLG Arena, Polt took Assembly and Puma very nearly took IEM in an extremely close series. The fact that we don't have 6 out of 8 terrans in GSL quarterfinals anymore and terrans not winning every foreign tournament does not mean terran is UP, it means Blizzard is finally getting it right in terms of balance.
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The thing is you have to put twice the effort into practise as terran than the other races if you want to do ok. That's why we don't have good foreigner terrans, they don't practise like Koreans.
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On March 19 2012 15:41 Mayd wrote:
The thing is you have to put twice the effort into practise as terran than the other races if you want to do ok. That's why we don't have good foreigner terrans, they don't practise like Koreans.
Where are your evidence that you have to put in "twice" the effort to do ok? What makes you think zerg is easier? Hell I would even say what makes you think protoss is easier? Demuslim isn't korean but he managed to defeat nestea, ret isn't korean and he defeated mvp. You have absolutely no evidence that you need to put in twice the effort to practice or be a korean to win
Edit: and btw, if you think blizzard should balance the game base on people at gold league then you should go play some other games cause sc2 is not for you. Sc2 should be balance at top tier play, not for players who want a easy time.
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On March 19 2012 15:45 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 15:41 Mayd wrote:
The thing is you have to put twice the effort into practise as terran than the other races if you want to do ok. That's why we don't have good foreigner terrans, they don't practise like Koreans. Where are your evidence that you have to put in "twice" the effort to do ok? What makes you think zerg is easier? Hell I would even say what makes you think protoss is easier? Demuslim isn't korean but he managed to defeat nestea, ret isn't korean and he defeated mvp. You have absolutely no evidence that you need to put in twice the effort to practice or be a korean to win Edit: and btw, if you think blizzard should balance the game base on people at gold league then you should go play some other games cause sc2 is not for you. Sc2 should be balance at top tier play, not for players who want a easy time.
When was the last time a foreigner terran got results? TSL3? And Stephano practises like 2 hours a day. Enough to beat top Korean terrans.
And do you think I'm gold league? Only thing I can say is I can probably beat you with any race.
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On March 19 2012 15:20 synkronized wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 13:11 Zzoram wrote:
1-2 Corruptors to work on medivacs seems so good, all Zergs should do it Stephano's one of the few Zergs I see who builds decent numbers of Corruptors. I see Ret, Sheth, Idra among others only builld Corruptors for the sake of Brood Lords, then over build Brood lords only to lose them to a handful of anti air units.. Stephano's one of the few to maintain a decent number of them at all times. It really works since his push may not be as typically scary as other Zergs but his cost efficiency with his high tech units seem far greater than other Zergs from what I see.
Stephano's meticulous unit control throughout the game is what gives him the edge that other Zergs lack. He does sacrifice a bit of macro for this - ie getting supply blocked, missing an inject here and there in late game, etc. But that's a small price to pay for the kind of benefit he gets out of good unit control. It's why Stephano holds back Polt's marauder hellion all-in with roach-ling and other Zergs die to it. It's why Stephano crushes Terran armies much larger than his late-game. It's why he trades efficiently with Protoss.
Well, that and his fast upgrades, which is a hallmark of Stephano's style, and something that Dimaga does as well. A lot of Zergs sacrifice upgrades to get a lot of units early on - and they do this because they are afraid of dying to timing pushes. But if you skimp on upgrades then Terran is just going to roll you later on with 3/3 marines. Stephano avoids that, relies on his upgrades to carry him through the early and mid game, and though he ends up with a smaller army than other Zergs do in mid game, he pulls ahead late game with good control.
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On March 19 2012 15:51 Mayd wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 15:45 SeventhPride wrote:On March 19 2012 15:41 Mayd wrote:
The thing is you have to put twice the effort into practise as terran than the other races if you want to do ok. That's why we don't have good foreigner terrans, they don't practise like Koreans. Where are your evidence that you have to put in "twice" the effort to do ok? What makes you think zerg is easier? Hell I would even say what makes you think protoss is easier? Demuslim isn't korean but he managed to defeat nestea, ret isn't korean and he defeated mvp. You have absolutely no evidence that you need to put in twice the effort to practice or be a korean to win Edit: and btw, if you think blizzard should balance the game base on people at gold league then you should go play some other games cause sc2 is not for you. Sc2 should be balance at top tier play, not for players who want a easy time. When was the last time a foreigner terran got results? TSL3? And Stephano practises like 2 hours a day. Enough to beat top Korean terrans. And do you think I'm gold league? Only thing I can say is I can probably beat you with any race.
Stephano has stated in the last sotg that he now practises 8-10 hours a day. Get your face out of your ass, you play zerg I play terran, whats your character code and name? Kor server bring it on.
Edit: btw, I off race as terran so yeah I have experience with them. Don't use it as a excuse though since you claim terran takes more skill and zerg is op so you should be able to win me even if you don't have much experience with zerg.
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