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Heweree
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom497 Posts
March 19 2012 05:40 GMT
#10221
No one has a clue where to watch the vods of polt vs stephano?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 19 2012 05:40 GMT
#10222
Geoff you are excited about everything.
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 19 2012 05:40 GMT
#10223
On March 19 2012 14:37 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 14:31 lisward wrote:
On March 19 2012 14:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 19 2012 14:22 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 19 2012 14:22 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:
On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:
On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments.


Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good.

Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago.

well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-)


Not true.

We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times.

lol. the last foreigner win was in october.

There was also a huge break in foreign tournaments.

by huge break, you mean only 2-3 huge tournaments per month?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments

Are you even listening to what you are saying? If you actually read that list you'll be hard pressed to find any foreigners that win tournaments in general. And most of the tournament wins are by Terrans. Of course you'll go on to point out the runs of Huk and Naniwa, but the thing is when Huk was winning tournaments, he was considered the best protoss at that time, and Naniwa beat the best Koreans in the world, show me a foreign terran that can do that.


why can foreign toss and zergs beat the best Koreans in the world, but "show me a foreign terran that can do that."



We dont got many Terrans in the foreign scene while we got tons of Protoss and Zergs

But Kas, Thorzain still doing very well


[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
March 19 2012 05:40 GMT
#10224
On March 19 2012 13:59 dignitas.merz wrote:
I felt this series was a pretty good example of how problematic blizzard made TvZ late-game with the ghost nerf. I'm not going to take anything away from Stephano, he played an amazing series, and it's nice to see a foreigner holding his own against koreans, time and time again. Every game was pretty much the same story though, Stephano utilizing the power of tech-switching, forcing Polt into a unit compostion which will deal with Wave # 1 just fine, but is terrible vs the inevitable wave # 2. You force Terran into anti-ultra, take a fight, switch onto broodlords, all of a sudden Terran is left with 15+ tanks and marauders which they can't really do much with unless they go around the map avoiding a direct engagement forever, looking to trade those tanks and marauders somewhat efficiently.

I think we terrans need to start looking into mech TvZ again, seeing how the 3-3 200/200 mech army is pretty capable to deal with just about anything that Zerg has, if accompanied by vikings.


Not really. Until T gets back to normal levels again, we have an enviable number of weapons that the other races jealously refer to as cheese and all ins. They should be used more. Banshees. Reapers. Helions. MMM. Bunkers. Make them suffer.

In fact, with the number of early game options available to Terran, it's a disservice not to use them every single game, unless you're doing an "eco-cheese".

Congratulations to Stephano, he's a great player. I just wish he was brave enough and had the desire to stay in Korea.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 05:43:10
March 19 2012 05:41 GMT
#10225
meh. boring sotg. we need the pillars to make it a real sotg. incontrol is great, but not enough.
AzureD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States320 Posts
March 19 2012 05:41 GMT
#10226
On March 19 2012 12:24 DirtyCash wrote:
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On March 19 2012 12:22 Bromazepam wrote:
A lot of people don't know that Infestors are Psionic units in here...

Probably the same people who always talk about balance.


Or maybe they understand than investing heavily in anti-psionic only (because they have no other purpose right now) is suicide against a race that tech-switches like its nothing


Yeah this is the main reason Ghosts are probably a bad idea vs Zerg at any point except maybe when you are ahead and the Zerg can not tech switch.
pwnopotamus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States70 Posts
March 19 2012 05:42 GMT
#10227
On March 19 2012 14:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On March 19 2012 14:27 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Despite all his success, there are still quite a lot Stephano haters out there who can't stop playing down his skill. If he lost, he was "clearly overhyped" - now that he won a tournament AGAIN, he only had mediocre opponents.

I wondered who these haters are - so I looked up their nationalities in this and other threads and drew a surprising conclusion: The vast majority of his haters are from Canada.
Why?
Why of all TL.net users do so many Canadian ones dislike Stephano?
Is it that they can't deal with the fact that Huk lost the throne of being the best foreigner? I can't think of a better reason.

its because he is from USA and Canadians hate the USA because we have freedom.


qft
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
March 19 2012 05:42 GMT
#10228
Did anyone else see Stephano give Bling a big hug behind the giant screen?
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 19 2012 05:43 GMT
#10229
Canada is super cool.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 19 2012 05:43 GMT
#10230
On March 19 2012 14:41 dAPhREAk wrote:
meh. boring sotg. we need the pillars to make it a real sotg.


Inc did the best with what he had and if you ask me his questions (even though there was repetition between the player ones) did a good job.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
March 19 2012 05:47 GMT
#10231
On March 19 2012 14:40 TanTzoR wrote:
No one has a clue where to watch the vods of polt vs stephano?

it ended like 30 mins ago...
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Heweree
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom497 Posts
March 19 2012 05:49 GMT
#10232
On March 19 2012 14:47 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 14:40 TanTzoR wrote:
No one has a clue where to watch the vods of polt vs stephano?

it ended like 30 mins ago...

Yeah and I woke up 30min ago, but it's dumb because I can't watch the recorded stream. It's sad :s, in Europe if you have a normal job watching the grand finals was just not possible.
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
March 19 2012 05:49 GMT
#10233
Canadians don't dislike Stephano. Where did anyone get that? Thats ridiculous.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 05:56:10
March 19 2012 05:51 GMT
#10234
On March 19 2012 14:40 TanTzoR wrote:
No one has a clue where to watch the vods of polt vs stephano?


The stream was on twitch, so it was automatically archived as VODS.

Here is the whole 13 hours long stream from today.

http://www.twitch.tv/lonestarclash/b/312086279

The winners bracket Final is at the 7hr mark. So jump to there. Obviously the Grand Final is later on at 11hr 10 mins mark. Definitely watch both series.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 05:53:57
March 19 2012 05:53 GMT
#10235
On March 19 2012 14:40 TanTzoR wrote:
No one has a clue where to watch the vods of polt vs stephano?


Seriously, I need to see these games.

Edit: nvm, thanks guy on top of me!
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
March 19 2012 05:54 GMT
#10236
Grubby is casting the CSL games on the second stream: http://www.twitch.tv/lonestarclash2
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 05:56:44
March 19 2012 05:54 GMT
#10237
The reason why terrans feel they are "underpowered" is because they have been over powered for such a long time that when they are finally balance, it feels they take so much more effort to play. They don't want to put in the effort, they just want a easy game. I understand, its not your race, its you. even artosis says terrans who think they are underpowered should face the truth and understand their race is not underpowered. Its just the player who is too used to easy games that when it takes effort after terran is finally balance, they just can't do it.
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 05:59:27
March 19 2012 05:58 GMT
#10238
On March 19 2012 14:54 SeventhPride wrote:
The reason why terrans feel they are "underpowered" is because they have been over powered for such a long time that when they are finally balance, it feels they take so much more effort to play. They don't want to put in the effort, they just want a easy game. I understand, its not your race, its you. even artosis says terrans who think they are underpowered should face the truth and understand their race is not underpowered. Its just the player who is too used to easy games that when it takes effort after terran is finally balance, they just can't do it.

So far I haven't seen any other high level terran whine about the race being under-powered except Demuslim in the context of Terran vs Protoss. It's just mostly foreigner bias causing all this balance nonsense.
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
March 19 2012 05:59 GMT
#10239
wats the score??
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 19 2012 05:59 GMT
#10240
On March 19 2012 14:54 JackDT wrote:
Grubby is casting the CSL games on the second stream: http://www.twitch.tv/lonestarclash2


Nice

[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
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