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On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago.
well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-)
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On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago.
Meh, foreign terrans are carried by the korean ones. That's fine by me.
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Stephano: Zerg take no effort to win easy peasy.
lol This kid goes against everything the scene belive in!
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On March 19 2012 14:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
i would love to see stephano in a tournament like GSL instead of a weekend LAN. want to see people play him who have prepared specifically to counter him, and see how he does then.
Stephano is the perfect weekend tournament player because he says that he plays completely on feel so I wouldnt expect him to do well in a format like GSL were he has to prepare for a certain style and others can prepare for him. His strength lies in his ability to make on the fly decision like the in the game against grubby when grubby blocked both of stephano's expos with pylons and Stephano made 8 lings and sent them directly to grubbys main and won the game outright.
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On March 19 2012 14:15 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
i would love to see stephano in a tournament like GSL instead of a weekend LAN. want to see people play him who have prepared specifically to counter him, and see how he does then. Very unlikely he will ever play GSL. Just not enough money for others than the winner. And winning it is quite unlikely. Simply not worth it if you want to earn money.
agreed. still would like to see him tested though.
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On March 19 2012 14:14 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:03 KalWarkov wrote:On March 19 2012 14:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
The radius of storm and EMP is 1.5, why is fungal still 2.0 given that its a very powerful spell that does damage AND locks units in place. I just don't understand how Blizzard is ignoring this issue. Yes I know there was a nerf, but it's too little. By itself fungal is already too strong but it has perfect synergy with broods and banes making the composition, dare I say it, OP. no1 tells you to rely on marines in every game u play. mix it up, play mech sometimes. mech viking can be strong on certain maps. i dont get why 95% of the players always bio in every matchup when mech is clearly viable (prolly not tvp). kind of sad, i love to see mech :/ No one plays mech because Blizzard made it shitty. Tanks were double nerfed 60 down to 50 to the current 35 damage. One tank shot can't even kill an upgraded zergling. Thors are slow and gets magic boxed by muta and ineffective vs broods and corruptors. Vikings die vs equal number of corruptors and Battlecruisers are slow as hell and easily mind controled. Thats why.
Hard to execute cleanly doesn't mean it's shitty. Since standard marine/tank into ghost for super lategame seems to be completely out of fashion I think we'll see a resurgence of mech, to some degree at least.
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where the hell is gunrun??
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On March 19 2012 14:16 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
i would love to see stephano in a tournament like GSL instead of a weekend LAN. want to see people play him who have prepared specifically to counter him, and see how he does then. Stephano is the perfect weekend tournament player because he says that he plays completely on feel so I wouldnt expect him to do well in a format like GSL were he has to prepare for a certain style and others can prepare for him. His strength lies in his ability to make on the fly decision like the in the game against grubby when grubby blocked both of stephano's expos with pylons and Stephano made 8 lings and sent them directly to grubbys main and won the game outright.
Well not so sure about that. He did studie Polt and prepared a build to kill Polt so I think he will do well.
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Will there be replays? missed entire day 2.
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On March 19 2012 14:16 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:14 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On March 19 2012 14:03 KalWarkov wrote:On March 19 2012 14:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
The radius of storm and EMP is 1.5, why is fungal still 2.0 given that its a very powerful spell that does damage AND locks units in place. I just don't understand how Blizzard is ignoring this issue. Yes I know there was a nerf, but it's too little. By itself fungal is already too strong but it has perfect synergy with broods and banes making the composition, dare I say it, OP. no1 tells you to rely on marines in every game u play. mix it up, play mech sometimes. mech viking can be strong on certain maps. i dont get why 95% of the players always bio in every matchup when mech is clearly viable (prolly not tvp). kind of sad, i love to see mech :/ No one plays mech because Blizzard made it shitty. Tanks were double nerfed 60 down to 50 to the current 35 damage. One tank shot can't even kill an upgraded zergling. Thors are slow and gets magic boxed by muta and ineffective vs broods and corruptors. Vikings die vs equal number of corruptors and Battlecruisers are slow as hell and easily mind controled. Thats why. Hard to execute cleanly doesn't mean it's shitty. Since standard marine/tank into ghost for super lategame seems to be completely out of fashion I think we'll see a resurgence of mech, to some degree at least.
It's not even that ghosts are bad - if you're making marauders for Ultralisks there is really no reason not to get a COUPLE ghosts. When something gets nerfed or buffed, progamers stampede towards or away from it. It takes a little while for a middle ground strategy to be found.
Not to mention, still nobody getting ravens even though HSM is the terran version of archon toilet vs broodlords. Can't speak for battlecruisers tho, they really serve no purpose in tvz.
edit: ps, whats up with the stream shitting out
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On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-)
Not true.
We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times.
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On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times.
what tourney did NaNi win with koreans in it?
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On March 19 2012 14:20 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times. what tourney did NaNi win with koreans in it?
Didn't he win the MLG Global invitational?
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On March 19 2012 14:20 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times. what tourney did NaNi win with koreans in it?
Oh I don't know, some random crappy tournament where he beat IMMvp and IMNestea both in their prime and then proceeded to take 2nd place in MLG Providence. Nothing major.
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On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times.
lol. the last foreigner win was in october.
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On March 19 2012 14:20 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times. what tourney did NaNi win with koreans in it?
MLG Global Invitational. The one where he beat Nestea and MVP
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On March 19 2012 14:20 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times. what tourney did NaNi win with koreans in it?
MLG's online tourny where he beat MVP and Nestea.
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On March 19 2012 14:20 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times. what tourney did NaNi win with koreans in it?
MLG global invitational. took out mvp and nestea
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On March 19 2012 14:21 dignitas.merz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:20 Tantaburs wrote:On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times. what tourney did NaNi win with koreans in it? Oh I don't know, some random crappy tournament where he beat IMMvp and IMNestea both in their prime and then proceeded to take 2nd place in MLG Providence. Nothing major.
ahh yes forgot about the invitational
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On March 19 2012 14:22 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:19 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:15 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 19 2012 14:14 xrapture wrote:On March 19 2012 14:12 lisward wrote:
It's so cute how Stephano wins and then everyone starts saying that Terran is under powered while Zerg is over powered. He played really well, and Terrans are still doing extremely well in tournaments. Everyone including Stephano lol.. he just said ghosts are bad and Zerg is good. Also, I dont know why people keep saying Terrans are doing "extremely well" in tournaments. Korean Terrans are. Foreign Terrans have been struggling for a very long time. The last one to win a major live event was Jinro at MLG DC... well over a year ago. well, koreans win all of the tournaments (korean or foreign), so its not surprising that we dont see non-foreign terrans winning anything. ;-) Not true. We've had Huk, Naniwa, idra, Stephano, and Dimaga win. Mana has been in the finals 3 times. lol. the last foreigner win was in october.
There was also a huge break in foreign tournaments.
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