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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 11 2012 16:41 GMT
#581
On March 11 2012 10:11 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 09:55 Clicker wrote:
They may as well just write the check out to Stephano in advance.


Polt says no.


And so does violet.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
March 11 2012 16:44 GMT
#582
Nony to take the tournament
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Desirous
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada95 Posts
March 11 2012 16:47 GMT
#583
How were the invites done? Tournament organizers bias or did most of the good players just straight decline the invite?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 11 2012 16:49 GMT
#584
On March 12 2012 01:37 Heathen wrote:
Who can beat POLT?


Violet, Sleep, Stephano, quite a few people. Likelihood of them doing so? Stephano and Violet have good chances.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 11 2012 16:56 GMT
#585
On March 12 2012 01:49 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:37 Heathen wrote:
Who can beat POLT?


Violet, Sleep, Stephano, quite a few people. Likelihood of them doing so? Stephano and Violet have good chances.


I don´t know, sleep is 0-4 against Goody, I doubt, that he can beat Polt offline.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 17:57:32
March 11 2012 17:54 GMT
#586
I loved seeing everyone at the SXSW event, I hope everyone who I talked to there gets a chance to check out this event!

On March 12 2012 01:47 Desirous wrote:
How were the invites done? Tournament organizers bias or did most of the good players just straight decline the invite?

Let me preface this statement: I had no hand in the invites. I do not know how they were done, why they were done how they were and so forth. All of this is conjecture based on my meager knowledge of how tournaments function behind the scenes.

My guess is that it was several factors. Money, scheduling, proximity, and finally, yes, popularity. These sorts of events are not cheap. You have to have a large enough prize pool to incentivize good players to come. You also, often, pay for the players to come. You pay for flights, accommodation and so forth. For example, look at IEM, they had to provide rooms for those players and some of them where unhappy about it. This means that players that have sponsors who will help pay, or who are already in the area and those who live near by are higher priority invites. Then you have to consider the fact that every pro player in the world has a LOT going on. There's that big red bull lan this weekend as well, I'm sure there are other events too. This again, gives certain players priority. Lastly is popularity. I could pick a lot of really talented players without huge fanbases, hold a tournament between them and have no viewers. They would play top quality games but people wouldn't want to watch. An example of this is at a previous tespa lan ( Tespa 2) we had VileHawk, ColTrimaster, LightBinksi, (binksi had no team at the time, Tri was just added to Col, I believe) and several other GREAT players and ~200 viewers. You need big names in order to draw in viewers. You need viewers for commercial revenue but more importantly to grow your brand. The better your brand, the more sponsers are willing to give you and the better your future events are going to be.

So, maybe that does count as "organizer bias" but I consider it a necessity.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 11 2012 17:59 GMT
#587
On March 12 2012 02:54 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
I loved seeing everyone at the SXSW event, I hope everyone who I talked to there gets a chance to check out this event!

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:47 Desirous wrote:
How were the invites done? Tournament organizers bias or did most of the good players just straight decline the invite?

Let me preface this statement: I had no hand in the invites. I do not know how they were done, why they were done how they were and so forth. All of this is conjecture based on my meager knowledge of how tournaments function behind the scenes.

My guess is that it was several factors. Money, scheduling, proximity, and finally, yes, popularity. These sorts of events are not cheap. You have to have a large enough prize pool to incentivize good players to come. You also, often, pay for the players to come. You pay for flights, accommodation and so forth. For example, look at IEM, they had to provide rooms for those players and some of them where unhappy about it. This means that players that have sponsors who will help pay, or who are already in the area and those who live near by are higher priority invites. Then you have to consider the fact that every pro player in the world has a LOT going on. There's that big red bull lan this weekend as well, I'm sure there are other events too. This again, gives certain players priority. Lastly is popularity. I could pick a lot of really talented players without huge fanbases, hold a tournament between them and have no viewers. They would play top quality games but people wouldn't want to watch. An example of this is at a previous tespa lan ( Tespa 2) we had VileHawk, ColTrimaster, LightBinksi, (binksi had no team at the time, Tri was just added to Col, I believe) and several other GREAT players and ~200 viewers. You need big names in order to draw in viewers. You need viewers for commercial revenue but more importantly to grow your brand. The better your brand, the more sponsers are willing to give you and the better your future events are going to be.

So, maybe that does count as "organizer bias" but I consider it a necessity.


I think all of them were unhappy about it, just some, or to be more exact, one, had to vent his anger out in the public about it. ;-)
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
March 11 2012 17:59 GMT
#588
Another Polt versus Violet versus Stephano.

I feel like they meet all the time...
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 11 2012 18:00 GMT
#589
On March 12 2012 01:56 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:49 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 12 2012 01:37 Heathen wrote:
Who can beat POLT?


Violet, Sleep, Stephano, quite a few people. Likelihood of them doing so? Stephano and Violet have good chances.


I don´t know, sleep is 0-4 against Goody, I doubt, that he can beat Polt offline.
Yeah but Goody is the indisputable next bonjwa of sc2. Plus he plays the polar opposite style of Polt's.
#freeshauni
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
March 11 2012 18:12 GMT
#590
On March 12 2012 02:59 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 02:54 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
I loved seeing everyone at the SXSW event, I hope everyone who I talked to there gets a chance to check out this event!

On March 12 2012 01:47 Desirous wrote:
How were the invites done? Tournament organizers bias or did most of the good players just straight decline the invite?

Let me preface this statement: I had no hand in the invites. I do not know how they were done, why they were done how they were and so forth. All of this is conjecture based on my meager knowledge of how tournaments function behind the scenes.

My guess is that it was several factors. Money, scheduling, proximity, and finally, yes, popularity. These sorts of events are not cheap. You have to have a large enough prize pool to incentivize good players to come. You also, often, pay for the players to come. You pay for flights, accommodation and so forth. For example, look at IEM, they had to provide rooms for those players and some of them where unhappy about it. This means that players that have sponsors who will help pay, or who are already in the area and those who live near by are higher priority invites. Then you have to consider the fact that every pro player in the world has a LOT going on. There's that big red bull lan this weekend as well, I'm sure there are other events too. This again, gives certain players priority. Lastly is popularity. I could pick a lot of really talented players without huge fanbases, hold a tournament between them and have no viewers. They would play top quality games but people wouldn't want to watch. An example of this is at a previous tespa lan ( Tespa 2) we had VileHawk, ColTrimaster, LightBinksi, (binksi had no team at the time, Tri was just added to Col, I believe) and several other GREAT players and ~200 viewers. You need big names in order to draw in viewers. You need viewers for commercial revenue but more importantly to grow your brand. The better your brand, the more sponsers are willing to give you and the better your future events are going to be.

So, maybe that does count as "organizer bias" but I consider it a necessity.


I think all of them were unhappy about it, just some, or to be more exact, one, had to vent his anger out in the public about it. ;-)

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not unhappy at all, I just thought it would be neat to share some insight .
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
March 11 2012 18:13 GMT
#591
This announcement has taken waaaay more than 16 days.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 11 2012 18:16 GMT
#592
On March 12 2012 03:12 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 02:59 JustPassingBy wrote:
On March 12 2012 02:54 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
I loved seeing everyone at the SXSW event, I hope everyone who I talked to there gets a chance to check out this event!

On March 12 2012 01:47 Desirous wrote:
How were the invites done? Tournament organizers bias or did most of the good players just straight decline the invite?

Let me preface this statement: I had no hand in the invites. I do not know how they were done, why they were done how they were and so forth. All of this is conjecture based on my meager knowledge of how tournaments function behind the scenes.

My guess is that it was several factors. Money, scheduling, proximity, and finally, yes, popularity. These sorts of events are not cheap. You have to have a large enough prize pool to incentivize good players to come. You also, often, pay for the players to come. You pay for flights, accommodation and so forth. For example, look at IEM, they had to provide rooms for those players and some of them where unhappy about it. This means that players that have sponsors who will help pay, or who are already in the area and those who live near by are higher priority invites. Then you have to consider the fact that every pro player in the world has a LOT going on. There's that big red bull lan this weekend as well, I'm sure there are other events too. This again, gives certain players priority. Lastly is popularity. I could pick a lot of really talented players without huge fanbases, hold a tournament between them and have no viewers. They would play top quality games but people wouldn't want to watch. An example of this is at a previous tespa lan ( Tespa 2) we had VileHawk, ColTrimaster, LightBinksi, (binksi had no team at the time, Tri was just added to Col, I believe) and several other GREAT players and ~200 viewers. You need big names in order to draw in viewers. You need viewers for commercial revenue but more importantly to grow your brand. The better your brand, the more sponsers are willing to give you and the better your future events are going to be.

So, maybe that does count as "organizer bias" but I consider it a necessity.


I think all of them were unhappy about it, just some, or to be more exact, one, had to vent his anger out in the public about it. ;-)

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not unhappy at all, I just thought it would be neat to share some insight .


Nvm, I was off-toipically jesting at the hotel story.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
March 11 2012 18:18 GMT
#593
On March 12 2012 03:16 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 03:12 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On March 12 2012 02:59 JustPassingBy wrote:
On March 12 2012 02:54 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
I loved seeing everyone at the SXSW event, I hope everyone who I talked to there gets a chance to check out this event!

On March 12 2012 01:47 Desirous wrote:
How were the invites done? Tournament organizers bias or did most of the good players just straight decline the invite?

Let me preface this statement: I had no hand in the invites. I do not know how they were done, why they were done how they were and so forth. All of this is conjecture based on my meager knowledge of how tournaments function behind the scenes.

My guess is that it was several factors. Money, scheduling, proximity, and finally, yes, popularity. These sorts of events are not cheap. You have to have a large enough prize pool to incentivize good players to come. You also, often, pay for the players to come. You pay for flights, accommodation and so forth. For example, look at IEM, they had to provide rooms for those players and some of them where unhappy about it. This means that players that have sponsors who will help pay, or who are already in the area and those who live near by are higher priority invites. Then you have to consider the fact that every pro player in the world has a LOT going on. There's that big red bull lan this weekend as well, I'm sure there are other events too. This again, gives certain players priority. Lastly is popularity. I could pick a lot of really talented players without huge fanbases, hold a tournament between them and have no viewers. They would play top quality games but people wouldn't want to watch. An example of this is at a previous tespa lan ( Tespa 2) we had VileHawk, ColTrimaster, LightBinksi, (binksi had no team at the time, Tri was just added to Col, I believe) and several other GREAT players and ~200 viewers. You need big names in order to draw in viewers. You need viewers for commercial revenue but more importantly to grow your brand. The better your brand, the more sponsers are willing to give you and the better your future events are going to be.

So, maybe that does count as "organizer bias" but I consider it a necessity.


I think all of them were unhappy about it, just some, or to be more exact, one, had to vent his anger out in the public about it. ;-)

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not unhappy at all, I just thought it would be neat to share some insight .


Nvm, I was off-toipically jesting at the hotel story.
Ah, ok .
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
March 11 2012 19:32 GMT
#594
Polt, stephano or violet will win
banelings
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
March 11 2012 19:39 GMT
#595
polt, visit texas, pick up free check, ezpz
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 03:18:15
March 12 2012 03:17 GMT
#596
Tournament has a solid lineup, hope everything runs smoothly!

Wonder who #16 is going to be... save the best for last?
YuTz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States119 Posts
March 12 2012 05:28 GMT
#597
check out this article from ESFI world on this tournament! Gotta love the passion put into this thing :D http://www.esfiworld.com/feature/president-tespa-talks-lone-star-clash
Old School.....
wwwei
Profile Joined March 2012
United States5 Posts
March 12 2012 06:12 GMT
#598
Has anyone tried to purchase tickets yet, and is it possible to order multiple?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 12 2012 06:26 GMT
#599
On March 12 2012 01:49 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:37 Heathen wrote:
Who can beat POLT?


Violet, Sleep, Stephano, quite a few people. Likelihood of them doing so? Stephano and Violet have good chances.


Yeah, any of those can beat Polt, but I would say Polt is the strong favorite. Just like MMA was a strong favorite with MC at IEM World Championships and Supernova was a strong favorite at IEM Sao Paolo. Should be able to beat everyone at the tournament, but could lose to any of the top zergs there depending on condition.

Winter Assembly Polt, with his TvZ, probably doesn't lose, but who knows what state he'll be in. I hope the last player is another Korean to add to the mix.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
MinistryofPain
Profile Joined April 2011
25 Posts
March 12 2012 06:56 GMT
#600
On March 12 2012 15:12 wwwei wrote:
Has anyone tried to purchase tickets yet, and is it possible to order multiple?


I paid for my pass on their site: http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/tespa/lonestarspectators.html. I would assume you'd be able purchase multiple passes by entering the info of whoever is coming with you.
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