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bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
February 15 2012 10:36 GMT
#1481
If you watch Puzzle play, you will notice he loses a lot because of his artosis pylon and not making a robo or an obs. He's basically an MC who attacks very late and has a much worst micro/unit control.
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
February 15 2012 10:36 GMT
#1482
It's kinda ridiculous how good getting a quick 3rd in PvT is on maps like these.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
February 15 2012 10:36 GMT
#1483
On February 15 2012 19:35 randomdude123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 19:35 JJH777 wrote:
On February 15 2012 19:34 randomdude123 wrote:
remember when terrans said this protoss build was imba? take notes lol gg wp gumiho.


Just because it has a direct counter doesn't mean it isn't imbalanced. There has never been a build where if one player KNEW the other was going to do it it couldn't be countered.


1-1-1? wp.


1-1-1 was never unbeatable if the Protoss 100% knew the Terran was going to do it. It was how hard it was to scout and that if you prepared it for you fell behind that made it imbalanced.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 10:38:53
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1484
I like the raven but that's... too many chargelots for a fight.


On February 15 2012 19:36 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 19:35 randomdude123 wrote:
On February 15 2012 19:35 JJH777 wrote:
On February 15 2012 19:34 randomdude123 wrote:
remember when terrans said this protoss build was imba? take notes lol gg wp gumiho.


Just because it has a direct counter doesn't mean it isn't imbalanced. There has never been a build where if one player KNEW the other was going to do it it couldn't be countered.


1-1-1? wp.


1-1-1 was never unbeatable if the Protoss 100% knew the Terran was going to do it. It was how hard it was to scout and that if you prepared it for you fell behind that made it imbalanced.


Wrong. Certain maps there are numberable cases of Tosses dieing even with a perfect read. A mixture of not being sure how to respond along with sheer fragility. Revisionist history to say otherwise.


Vindicated about that engagement.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36960 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1485
WHY A RAVEN WHY?!?! DOES GSL READ THESE THREADS AND KNOW DRAZERK PERSONALLY!?!?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1486
On February 15 2012 19:36 Haydin wrote:
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On February 15 2012 19:34 kyllinghest wrote:
Tanks warm my heart


Gumiho also doesn't seem to be overcommitting to them and transitioning into bio. I really like it.

He's done this before in TvP I think and the tanks are really awesome in pushes later to support the bio.
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1487
The metagame shifting again? Interesting composition from Gumiho here.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1488
Gumiho got a raven,

Rejoice puzzle fans.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36960 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1489
On February 15 2012 19:33 Seeker wrote:
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On February 15 2012 19:30 Seeker wrote:
Puzzle
vs
GuMiho

on Metropolis

Puzzle at 6:00

GuMiho at 12:00

First 5 minutes

Puzzle opens up no gate double

GuMiho opens up no gas double

Puzzle scouts GuMiho very quickly

GuMiho scouts Puzzle a bit later but sees the build timing of Puzzle
GuMiho moving marines already to pressure
GuMiho throws down a bunker at the ramp of Puzzle
GuMiho getting double gas

Puzzle pulls probes and a zealot to block
Puzzle prevents the bunker from finishing

GuMiho cancels
GuMiho backs off


5 - 10 minutes

GuMiho getting a factory

Puzzle destroying his rocks with 2 zealots

GuMiho bunkering up his nat for defense
GuMiho's marines meets the stalker of Puzzle

Puzzle's stalker JUST BARELY gets away

GuMiho getting banshees
GuMiho also getting a tech lab on his factory

Puzzle getting a lot of gates..... dat artosis pylon.....
Puzzle going for a 7 gate timing attack
Puzzle with no robo
Puzzle moves out with his units

GuMiho getting seige
GuMiho is VERY well defended.....
GuMiho killing probes with his banshee

Puzzle moves in

Battle ensues

Puzzle is able to kill the bunker and supply depot wall but.....
Puzzle backs off because of cliff seiged tanks

Meanwhile GuMiho's banshee has killed like a sick number of probes


10 - 15 minutes

Puzzle grabbing an observer finally

GuMiho sends in yet another banshee but has to back off without killing much
GuMiho now increasing his barracks #

Puzzle grabbing a twilight council
Puzzle grabbing a templar archive

GuMiho grabs his 3rd
GuMiho grabs a raven

Puzzle with a warp prism
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Insomniac22
Profile Joined February 2011
United States907 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1490
air attack + 1...gumiho must hate colossi :p
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1491
Can't see Gumiho losing this now T_T
PapaJed
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden211 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1492
Real men drill deep. :-)
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1493
3 bases and only 1 forge? c'mon
ffxiv enjoyer
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
February 15 2012 10:37 GMT
#1494
I suspect the raven is to help take the islands, let's see if I'm right...
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 15 2012 10:38 GMT
#1495
On February 15 2012 19:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Gumiho got a raven,

Rejoice puzzle fans.


That's the worst news I've heard all day

gg Puzzle, gogo game 2
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 15 2012 10:38 GMT
#1496
Hahaha Artosis.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 10:39:09
February 15 2012 10:38 GMT
#1497
On February 15 2012 19:35 TheNessman wrote:
see, like, i believe tasteless and artosis when they go "wow this game is over" and then it turns out this:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 19:34 avilo wrote:
The build puzzle is doing hard counters cloak banshee because he'll have so much chronoboost from 3 nexus even if he loses 15-20 probes here he can be ahead in workers with triple nexus i believe...not to mention the mass gateway can just kill gumiho or force banshees back.

like, i want them to be able to say this. its like a pretty even mid game now


On February 15 2012 19:35 Dodgin wrote:
And somehow after all that, puzzle is ahead in supply.


Yep. For some reason they didn't analyze the builds in depth enough. Puzzle was actually 100% fine the entire time against cloak banshee. In fact, any Protoss player that does this build WANTS a Terran to cloak banshee them because there will be zero economic follow up that can catch up with chrono boost economically on a large map.

Protoss ends up coming out ahead with a triple nexus vs cloak banshee because Terran WILL kill those 10-20 probes yes, but Protoss will chronoboost ahead in probes once the first observer is out.

Surprised that tasteless/artosis completely mis-analyzed the build.
Sup
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 15 2012 10:38 GMT
#1498
Storms the tanks

why
ffxiv enjoyer
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
February 15 2012 10:38 GMT
#1499
AND YET YOU CANT SAY ANYTHING
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
February 15 2012 10:38 GMT
#1500
LOL RAVENS!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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