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On February 07 2012 02:20 Full.tilt wrote:Football forums are worse than TL. Fact. I'm getting flashbacks to the rubbish I used to read when I frequented a couple. Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 02:07 Kergy wrote:On February 07 2012 01:38 Venomsflame wrote:
People on TL are so stupid when it comes to TL and EG. Always viewing it like good vs evil.... It gets a little silly. Nothing wrong with the way EG does business and no reason they should be hated. I get the Team Liquid bias, this being their site and all but the amount of useless comments that are just a lame attempt to take a shot at EG for losing is silly.
This also doesn't even come close to changing my opinion that EG is a better team than TL. 3 Bo1s is silly, never liked this kind of format. Oh... would you like bo3's in team games? Now THAT owuld be the silliest thing ever. Whilst it may not be too everyones taste, they can be pretty good, just like winners format. Not every team league has to be the same. Of course you may just be trolling EG as you're replying to an EG fanboy  (as the EG masters cup uses bo3 in their team league)
Bo3s are much better imo. I love seeing an actual series(even a small one) to determine the winner of a head to head match(meaning one player vs another player, not team vs team). It also guarantees more games. Is anyone pleased with a clan war they just watched that ended after THREE whole games? That wasn't even really an event! All 3 games were pretty close and yet it still was over way too quickly.
And I am certainly not a EG fan boy haha. Mouz all the way 
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Man, EG superfans sure get misty-eyed about this shit O_o
Anyway, EG is definitely a team of bought superstars, and TL is definitely a team with grassroots underdog soul. Ain't no changin' that.
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On February 07 2012 02:33 Venomsflame wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 02:20 Full.tilt wrote:Football forums are worse than TL. Fact. I'm getting flashbacks to the rubbish I used to read when I frequented a couple. On February 07 2012 02:07 Kergy wrote:On February 07 2012 01:38 Venomsflame wrote:
People on TL are so stupid when it comes to TL and EG. Always viewing it like good vs evil.... It gets a little silly. Nothing wrong with the way EG does business and no reason they should be hated. I get the Team Liquid bias, this being their site and all but the amount of useless comments that are just a lame attempt to take a shot at EG for losing is silly.
This also doesn't even come close to changing my opinion that EG is a better team than TL. 3 Bo1s is silly, never liked this kind of format. Oh... would you like bo3's in team games? Now THAT owuld be the silliest thing ever. Whilst it may not be too everyones taste, they can be pretty good, just like winners format. Not every team league has to be the same. Of course you may just be trolling EG as you're replying to an EG fanboy (as the EG masters cup uses bo3 in their team league) Bo3s are much better imo. I love seeing an actual series(even a small one) to determine the winner of a head to head match(meaning one player vs another player, not team vs team). It also guarantees more games. Is anyone pleased with a clan war they just watched that ended after THREE whole games? That wasn't even really an event! All 3 games were pretty close and yet it still was over way too quickly. And I am certainly not a EG fan boy haha. Mouz all the way
Apologies I agree, I'd prefer bo3 for this type of setup, winners all kill format works for bo1 though, as long as it's bo11 in total for example, like the KSL used recently, so even an all kill is going to be 5 games which is relatively rare.
Although I can see this bo1 system is much easier to organise for everyone involved.
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On February 07 2012 02:33 Venomsflame wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 02:20 Full.tilt wrote:Football forums are worse than TL. Fact. I'm getting flashbacks to the rubbish I used to read when I frequented a couple. On February 07 2012 02:07 Kergy wrote:On February 07 2012 01:38 Venomsflame wrote:
People on TL are so stupid when it comes to TL and EG. Always viewing it like good vs evil.... It gets a little silly. Nothing wrong with the way EG does business and no reason they should be hated. I get the Team Liquid bias, this being their site and all but the amount of useless comments that are just a lame attempt to take a shot at EG for losing is silly.
This also doesn't even come close to changing my opinion that EG is a better team than TL. 3 Bo1s is silly, never liked this kind of format. Oh... would you like bo3's in team games? Now THAT owuld be the silliest thing ever. Whilst it may not be too everyones taste, they can be pretty good, just like winners format. Not every team league has to be the same. Of course you may just be trolling EG as you're replying to an EG fanboy (as the EG masters cup uses bo3 in their team league) Bo3s are much better imo. I love seeing an actual series(even a small one) to determine the winner of a head to head match(meaning one player vs another player, not team vs team). It also guarantees more games. Is anyone pleased with a clan war they just watched that ended after THREE whole games? That wasn't even really an event! All 3 games were pretty close and yet it still was over way too quickly. And I am certainly not a EG fan boy haha. Mouz all the way
It's how Proleague has been running for years (+/- 2v2s, but that's irrelevant). I like NASTL/GCPL format more than any other league because it's something that I'm used to, but also because this specific format has its intricacies that no other format has when it comes to picking players and how much individual players are worth.
IMO if you let players play series between each other, maps and sniping lose quite a lot of importance, and it becomes a mini individual tournament of sorts. The overall match isn't BO1 anyway, it's still BO5 or BO7, so it's not like anybody wins or loses by a single game. The only difference is that different players play each set, which is what makes the team aspect (selecting roster and preparation) important.
It's also the only format where teams show style and character. Some get by using a ton of matchup snipers to eliminate better players, others have a well-rounded team of decent players, others yet have one superstar player that will win almost anything and need to develop a strategy on how to make the most out of the rest of their lineup, etc.
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On February 07 2012 02:49 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 02:33 Venomsflame wrote:On February 07 2012 02:20 Full.tilt wrote:Football forums are worse than TL. Fact. I'm getting flashbacks to the rubbish I used to read when I frequented a couple. On February 07 2012 02:07 Kergy wrote:On February 07 2012 01:38 Venomsflame wrote:
People on TL are so stupid when it comes to TL and EG. Always viewing it like good vs evil.... It gets a little silly. Nothing wrong with the way EG does business and no reason they should be hated. I get the Team Liquid bias, this being their site and all but the amount of useless comments that are just a lame attempt to take a shot at EG for losing is silly.
This also doesn't even come close to changing my opinion that EG is a better team than TL. 3 Bo1s is silly, never liked this kind of format. Oh... would you like bo3's in team games? Now THAT owuld be the silliest thing ever. Whilst it may not be too everyones taste, they can be pretty good, just like winners format. Not every team league has to be the same. Of course you may just be trolling EG as you're replying to an EG fanboy (as the EG masters cup uses bo3 in their team league) Bo3s are much better imo. I love seeing an actual series(even a small one) to determine the winner of a head to head match(meaning one player vs another player, not team vs team). It also guarantees more games. Is anyone pleased with a clan war they just watched that ended after THREE whole games? That wasn't even really an event! All 3 games were pretty close and yet it still was over way too quickly. And I am certainly not a EG fan boy haha. Mouz all the way It's how Proleague has been running for years (+/- 2v2s, but that's irrelevant). I like NASTL/GCPL format more than any other league because it's something that I'm used to, but also because this specific format has its intricacies that no other format has when it comes to picking players and how much individual players are worth. IMO if you let players play series between each other, maps and sniping lose quite a lot of importance, and it becomes a mini individual tournament of sorts. The overall match isn't BO1 anyway, it's still BO5 or BO7, so it's not like anybody wins or loses by a single game. The only difference is that different players play each set, which is what makes the team aspect (selecting roster and preparation) important. It's also the only format where teams show style and character. Some get by using a ton of matchup snipers to eliminate better players, others have a well-rounded team of decent players, others yet have one superstar player that will win almost anything and need to develop a strategy on how to make the most out of the rest of their lineup, etc.
This format grants more parity than any other, IMHO. Simply have 3 super talented players isn't enough, given map choices and match up choices. BO3's would take away from that. Though I'll agree this felt really short.
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Gj ret
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Wow NASL has finally a good looking setup.
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The way TL acquired Zenio and Hero is in no way similar to how EG acquired Puma at the first NASL.
Please do not even try to compare....
(Idra)
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Lol Idra bungled that so hard. Like 10 low red HP stalkers that he could've focussed down.
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Nice, never would've thought that Ret would've won Puma, nor that Zenio would've taken out jyp. Ofc Hero winning idra wasn't much of a surprise
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On February 07 2012 02:49 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 02:33 Venomsflame wrote:On February 07 2012 02:20 Full.tilt wrote:Football forums are worse than TL. Fact. I'm getting flashbacks to the rubbish I used to read when I frequented a couple. On February 07 2012 02:07 Kergy wrote:On February 07 2012 01:38 Venomsflame wrote:
People on TL are so stupid when it comes to TL and EG. Always viewing it like good vs evil.... It gets a little silly. Nothing wrong with the way EG does business and no reason they should be hated. I get the Team Liquid bias, this being their site and all but the amount of useless comments that are just a lame attempt to take a shot at EG for losing is silly.
This also doesn't even come close to changing my opinion that EG is a better team than TL. 3 Bo1s is silly, never liked this kind of format. Oh... would you like bo3's in team games? Now THAT owuld be the silliest thing ever. Whilst it may not be too everyones taste, they can be pretty good, just like winners format. Not every team league has to be the same. Of course you may just be trolling EG as you're replying to an EG fanboy (as the EG masters cup uses bo3 in their team league) Bo3s are much better imo. I love seeing an actual series(even a small one) to determine the winner of a head to head match(meaning one player vs another player, not team vs team). It also guarantees more games. Is anyone pleased with a clan war they just watched that ended after THREE whole games? That wasn't even really an event! All 3 games were pretty close and yet it still was over way too quickly. And I am certainly not a EG fan boy haha. Mouz all the way It's how Proleague has been running for years (+/- 2v2s, but that's irrelevant). I like NASTL/GCPL format more than any other league because it's something that I'm used to, but also because this specific format has its intricacies that no other format has when it comes to picking players and how much individual players are worth. IMO if you let players play series between each other, maps and sniping lose quite a lot of importance, and it becomes a mini individual tournament of sorts. The overall match isn't BO1 anyway, it's still BO5 or BO7, so it's not like anybody wins or loses by a single game. The only difference is that different players play each set, which is what makes the team aspect (selecting roster and preparation) important. It's also the only format where teams show style and character. Some get by using a ton of matchup snipers to eliminate better players, others have a well-rounded team of decent players, others yet have one superstar player that will win almost anything and need to develop a strategy on how to make the most out of the rest of their lineup, etc.
Well this isn't proleague format, in proleague you don't know the lineups in advance, so coaches have choices to make other than 'hmm who likes what map?'. It makes it much more tense doing the lineups on the fly
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Man, that was one sided. I do wish the tournament used BO3s though, BO1s are just too short.
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impressive win TL!
but even more important for me: god, i love grubby casting^^
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155 supply versus 98 and IdrA still loses. wp by HerO, but IdrA made some mistakes; no burrow and also throwing small reinforcement packs to the blink stalker army.
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looking at the next couple weeks liquid will be up against 3 of the 4 top record teams in this tourney. Lets keep it up Liquid!
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On February 07 2012 03:52 mastergriggy wrote:
Man, that was one sided. I do wish the tournament used BO3s though, BO1s are just too short.
It's a Bo5...
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What the hell?
This must be the quickest NASTL match up in quite a while, was away for a short while and barely caught the last game haha...
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On February 06 2012 16:52 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 16:43 NET wrote:On February 06 2012 14:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Team spirit > Mercenaries. Always a great thing to see ^_^ That's pretty funny, never thought of it that way. They were fun games to watch! I'm happy for the winners though. yaaaaa cuz liquid doesnt pay zenio and hero anything. they joined cuz theyre big liquid fans. imbeciles
how come Idra can go around calling people imbeciles and not get at least temp banned?
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AWW but guys... guys... hey zerg isn't supposed to beat protoss... except zenio over JYP and terious (who?) over HuK and you know any one who isn't idra. T-T
Game so imba and not fair.
Plain and simple, I would take TLO any single day over idra. TLO doesn't whine imbalance, he just learns and practices more, doesn't even let that negativity into his mind. That's how it should be viewed 100% of the time.
Congrats to team liquid. I am glad to see them take down another team league victory and I hope it translates into some individual titles again soon.
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