I will take your word on that, Nony.

If there really is no hard feelings, I would like to ask you to share this with a lot of the fan base in TL forums, seriously. It gets out of hand worse than 4chan.

I really like you, and I want you to keep chewing Strider and being awesome.

I can't believe you're falling for Nony's lies. Ofc he's going to pretend like the two teams are all lovey-dovey. It's part of his (and TL's) goody-goody image. The truth is darker and lies between the lines where only the cleverest of readers can find it.

7mk

Germany10157 Posts

February 08 2012 01:06 GMT

#682

On February 08 2012 08:41 Jotoco wrote:

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On February 08 2012 07:49 7mk wrote:

On February 08 2012 03:42 Jotoco wrote:

On February 07 2012 20:06 VoirDire wrote:

On February 07 2012 18:31 suejak wrote:

On February 07 2012 15:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

On February 06 2012 18:29 dAPhREAk wrote:

On February 06 2012 17:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

On February 06 2012 16:52 IdrA wrote:

On February 06 2012 16:43 NET wrote:
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That's pretty funny, never thought of it that way.

They were fun games to watch! I'm happy for the winners though.

yaaaaa cuz liquid doesnt pay zenio and hero anything. they joined cuz theyre big liquid fans.
imbeciles

Not that I agree with the whole 'lol mercenaries' stuff, but the story behind both HerO's and Zenio's joining is a bit different than the usual 'See talent, throw money at it'.

That's not to say that I think we are 'above' doing that or anything.

need money first... =|

How do you think we got Huk the first time around...?

Yo man, I know you're trying to be "adult" about all this, but Liquid would do well to protect its Knight in Shining Armour image...

Yeah, you bought HuK from Millennium. But he definitely had tenuous ties to the team and you offered a lot more than just money -- you offered a home.

The Following PREVIEW has been Approved for ALL AUDIENCES by the Motion Picture Association of America

NARRATOR: In a world where korean mercenaries dominate the field of Starcraft. Westerners had but one hope... one man...

(Screen fades to black)

(Angelic choir music starts playing)

NARRATOR: HuK!

(80s style sports montage where HuK owns korean face on the ladder)

NARRATOR: Every team wanted him and they offered him more and more riches beyond wildest dreams, trying to outbid each other. Every team --- but Team Liquid, who spend all their money running an orphanage and making soup for the homeless.

(Overview of a press room with huk standing behind a lectern packed with microphones)

NARRATOR: When the day finally came when HuK had to choose a team, to everyones surprise HuK announced that he was joining Team Liquid.

STARCRAFT REPORTER (Artosis): Why did you join Team Liquid instead of for example Evil Geniuses. They even have a pro house mansion for gods sake!

(Close zoom on HuKs face)

HUK: Because they offered me more than just money --- they offered a home.

NARRATOR: Coming this summer: Team Liquid - The knights in shining +3 Armor. Rated PG-13.

On February 07 2012 19:01 Sated wrote:

On February 07 2012 18:31 suejak wrote:

On February 07 2012 15:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

On February 06 2012 18:29 dAPhREAk wrote:

On February 06 2012 17:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

On February 06 2012 16:52 IdrA wrote:

On February 06 2012 16:43 NET wrote:
[quote]

That's pretty funny, never thought of it that way.

They were fun games to watch! I'm happy for the winners though.

yaaaaa cuz liquid doesnt pay zenio and hero anything. they joined cuz theyre big liquid fans.
imbeciles

need money first... =|

How do you think we got Huk the first time around...?

If you've been watching EG's streamed training sessions, you'd know that EG aren't a bunch of isolated mercenaries who play on their own sitting on chairs made out of money. This "offered a home" stuff is incredibly overplayed.

Both these quotes are correct.

TL is NOT the knight in shinning armor, and I don't know why TL (as a Team/Group) seem to be trying to demonise EG. I think they lost too many fans (and Huk) and are bitter, trying to get revenge using this forum for it.

There is more than just a pun against the "Evil" in EG's team name. I just don't know why, but this is what I'm seeing.

This from the Liquid Team News:

Against EG, there's more. Quite a bit more. As a defender of all things good and bright in the world, it's natural that Liquid` should be opposed to the Evil Geniueses. But after multiple HerO vs PuMa finals, the acquisition of HuK, and serveral high-stakes meetings in clanwars, there's no excuses here. EG must be defeated.

This seems so much more than celebration and drama. This seems, to me, real bitterness. And I think this is terrible for esports. Unlike Mouz/EG rivalry which was pretty obviously well-intended and good-spirited.

All that and quotes from Jinro, for example, lead me to believe that there is much more we don't know about, and it scares the shit out of me.

lol how old are you, do you really not see that this is just the typical way to hype an article up? Do you really think that TL thinks of themselves as defender of all things good and bright in the world? LOL

First, age is no indication of intelligence (hence you wrote this) or reason.

You can hype, ok, I understand that. I don't think TL holds thenselves as defenders of all things good, I never said that, you should study reading comprehension a little. But I do think it is possible for then to hold a grudge against another team. And it is possible for then to use their influence to damage said team.

That is what I said I was afraid of, never said they held themselves to higher moral standards (even Jinro said so).

1) Well I didnt want to be rude by just asking you if youre stupid
2) You are obviously the one lacking reading comprehension, since you draw the conclusion out of a hype post that there was "real bitterness"

Thankfully Nony made a nice statement, and I dont really get what you want out of your request of him to "share" what he posted, because people who have followed the scene know that him and idra for example are friends.
Ask TLO what he thinks of Idra and he'll say that he respects him a lot.
Ret is known for having good connections to the whole American crew, idra, machine, lzgamer, incontrol etc.
people like Sheth arent gonna badmouth anyone anyways ^^
And I'm sure all TL players still love huk so...

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 08 2012 16:18 GMT

#683

On February 08 2012 08:57 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Guys, Liquid didn't invent "EG people are the bad guys." Their team name is Evil Geniuses! It's their thing. It's not a serious thing, it's just the role they play. A rivalry has developed. And so it's natural for us to be the "good guys." We've got some players famous for their good manners (sheth, haypro and jinro), and they've got players famous for mouthing off (idra and huk). That just reinforces it. It's a storyline. It's not a real serious actual thing. It's for fun. It's been said a million times that there are a ton of great friendships between players on Liquid and EG and there's constant evidence for anyone who is paying attention. But at the same time, we're fiercely competitive. No hard feelings.

The very LAST thing Liquid would want is for EG to die. We want them to be awesome and we also want to be better than them.

And if there is some serious concern about EG's "bad guys" notoriety and their ability to get sponsors, then WTF? EG is (by far?) the most sponsored team. Half of every EG player's interview is listing sponsors. They are amazing at getting sponsors and they're also amazing at keeping sponsors. Fucking Kingston Hyper X made some really awesome commercials playing into IdrA's bad boy attitude. It HELPS them get sponsors.

So I love to see the trash talk and people getting passionate about the rivalry but I don't like seeing people get all serious about it. At least not in live report threads. Live report threads are for on-the-spot analysis, a bit of post-game analysis, and FUN. If you have any feeling that you and the people you are talking to in your posts aren't having fun, then rethink your participation on this forum (at least in these threads -- there are some legitimate serious business threads in SC2 General).

If you don't have an opinion, or just don't give a fuck. Chew No..errr.. Stride Gum.

Good points Tyler, emphasis needs to be directed to the friendships between the people and FRIENDLY rivalry. We don't need to be hate soldiers here, we're all part of the community, civility goes a long way.