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DrN0
United Kingdom184 Posts
On February 06 2012 21:36 Talin wrote: Since you're British and making comparison to sports, let me remind you that in the most popular sport in UK (and the world) teams that outspend their competition by a huge margin are almost universally hated. That business practice, despite (sadly) being commonplace in sports today, does absolutely not sit well with the majority of fans. And neither it should because money should never have been allowed to be the deciding factor in sports to such a huge extent. And the same holds for almost any other sport as well (not sure about the American based ones, I feel things might be different there). The only way to have a fair and reasonable competition today is to have a central (kespa-like) organization and salary caps and transfer caps for all teams involved. That is such crap, Man Utd has the largest fan base of any football team and very often spends over 50 million in one year, I think you have severely underrated how much fans enjoy watching the best talent in the world on their own soil. Yes some fans will make fun of teams with money but it isn't to say money is a bad thing. For example Everton never get any money to spend and their fans often point out that they do very well for their lack of money, that's not to say they wouldn't welcome money themselves in fact some of the supporters put their own money into the club. As for the big clubs being hated the more powerful you become the more enemies you make, many people may hate Barcelona but almost everyone can appreciate the football they play. | ||
obesemk
Norway267 Posts
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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bbm
United Kingdom1320 Posts
On February 06 2012 21:36 Talin wrote: [football] teams that outspend their competition by a huge margin are almost universally hated. That business practice does not sit well with the majority of fans. What, that's just not true at all for anyone I know who's into football. People complaining about other teams spending practicies can be attributed back to own-team bias. They're never going to complain when their own team spends x million on top tier players. Only when teams they don't support do. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44336 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:31 symtab wrote: There was a thread like a few months ago, about Liquid not being competitive enough and not winning tournaments, and EG getting better and better. I guess these games are the conclusion to that thread :-) Nope, that debate will go on forever, because people bring it up everytime a TL or EG player falls short of expectations. Unfortunately that is just the way it is. | ||
Sated
England4983 Posts
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Joseph123
Bulgaria1144 Posts
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Venomsflame
United States613 Posts
This also doesn't even come close to changing my opinion that EG is a better team than TL. 3 Bo1s is silly, never liked this kind of format. | ||
Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
On February 07 2012 00:59 bbm wrote: What, that's just not true at all for anyone I know who's into football. People complaining about other teams spending practicies can be attributed back to own-team bias. They're never going to complain when their own team spends x million on top tier players. Only when teams they don't support do. everyone who i know, regardless of team or league which they support; they all hate manchester city yet, im a big fan of eg :p | ||
sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
well played ret sad that idra didnt win.... | ||
Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
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Lt.Roosevelt
Sweden84 Posts
On February 06 2012 23:49 DrN0 wrote: That is such crap, Man Utd has the largest fan base of any football team and very often spends over 50 million in one year, I think you have severely underrated how much fans enjoy watching the best talent in the world on their own soil. Yes some fans will make fun of teams with money but it isn't to say money is a bad thing. For example Everton never get any money to spend and their fans often point out that they do very well for their lack of money, that's not to say they wouldn't welcome money themselves in fact some of the supporters put their own money into the club. As for the big clubs being hated the more powerful you become the more enemies you make, many people may hate Barcelona but almost everyone can appreciate the football they play. I think he was referring more to teams that basically go from bad/average to top contenders very fast because of an influx of money as is the case with Chelsea and Machester City. In the case of Everton the supporters would most likely all stay and love Everton whether they had money or not, but as long as they don't have money "no one" else will care... but make Everton top contenders in a season by spending loads of money and you are sure to get a lot of haters saying Everton doesn't deserve the success because they haven't "earned it". | ||
Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
On February 07 2012 01:51 Kira__ wrote: everyone who i know, regardless of team or league which they support; they all hate manchester city You should think about it in the context of this: 1. Manchester City was a winner way before United was. 2. United got money and thus begun to win. City suddenly didn't have it and begun to lose. 3. Recently, they got money again. really, City is a little club that could that got lucky. they got blessed. we really should be rooting for them and for the americans to ruin the money machine that is united. and go TL rah rah rah | ||
Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
On February 07 2012 01:38 Venomsflame wrote: People on TL are so stupid when it comes to TL and EG. Always viewing it like good vs evil.... It gets a little silly. Nothing wrong with the way EG does business and no reason they should be hated. I get the Team Liquid bias, this being their site and all but the amount of useless comments that are just a lame attempt to take a shot at EG for losing is silly. This also doesn't even come close to changing my opinion that EG is a better team than TL. 3 Bo1s is silly, never liked this kind of format. Oh... would you like bo3's in team games? Now THAT owuld be the silliest thing ever. | ||
Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On February 06 2012 21:36 Talin wrote: Since you're British and making comparison to sports, let me remind you that in the most popular sport in UK (and the world) teams that outspend their competition by a huge margin are almost universally hated. That business practice, despite (sadly) being commonplace in sports today, does absolutely not sit well with the majority of fans. And neither it should because money should never have been allowed to be the deciding factor in sports to such a huge extent. And the same holds for almost any other sport as well (not sure about the American based ones, I feel things might be different there). The only way to have a fair and reasonable competition today is to have a central (kespa-like) organization and salary caps and transfer caps for all teams involved. That isn't how it works at all. Teams that win are universally hated, it doesn't matter how you do it. Barcelona have a shit load of haters and most of their team came through their academy. Plus all top football teams spend insane money on players. It's just how the sport works. | ||
Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On February 07 2012 01:56 Chunhyang wrote: You should think about it in the context of this: 1. Manchester City was a winner way before United was. 2. United got money and thus begun to win. City suddenly didn't have it and begun to lose. 3. Recently, they got money again. really, City is a little club that could that got lucky. they got blessed. we really should be rooting for them and for the americans to ruin the money machine that is united. and go TL rah rah rah Man Utd didn't get money. They've always been rich because they are a big club with a huge fanbase and have been since the 50s. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 06 2012 21:36 JustPassingBy wrote: Where are Jinro, Tyler, incontrol, lzgamer and machine? it's like they disappeared from the competitive gaming scene. :o I mean, I understand that they are not performing well compared to the other members of the team, but I wish they would at least get some screen time, it has been ages since I saw them playing. Tyler needs some more time to get prepared while I'm sure we'll see Jinro in future CWs. | ||
Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On February 07 2012 02:07 Kergy wrote: Oh... would you like bo3's in team games? Now THAT owuld be the silliest thing ever. Whilst it may not be too everyones taste, they can be pretty good, just like winners format. Not every team league has to be the same. Of course you may just be trolling EG as you're replying to an EG fanboy ![]() | ||
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