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On February 04 2012 16:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 16:01 cassurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:On February 04 2012 15:53 cassurai wrote:
don't quite understand seed's opening on this map. no forge FE. and then stargate as his first tech choice. meaning he is behind in both econ and main PvZ tech (twilight vs muta or robo vs ground). The rocks make the zerg third more vulnerable to SG harass. forge fe stargate then. i understand stargate and i understand 3 gate expo. i just don't understand both. Because it takes longer to get to stargate off FFE.
you sure? 
forge fe has a later core but you can start stargate immediately after core.
sentry expand stargate requires 2 or 3 sentries, an additional gateway, a nexus, and then a stargate.
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Good job Seed,very well control
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On February 04 2012 16:04 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 16:03 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:02 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:01 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:59 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:58 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:56 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:55 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:53 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:52 zhurai wrote:
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symbol starting to do roach ling aggression
voidray starting by seed voidray killing all the roaches lair starting + spores by symbol +1 range starting by symbol 3rd base done by symbol symbol catches some sentries, but FF's chase them away (at least saving some) symbol at least doesn't lose his 3rd roach hydra by symbol robo starting by seed roach speed by symbol +1 by seed +2 range and burrow by symbol seed starting robo bay symbol pushing with roach hydra into 3rd 3rd started by seed +1 melee by symbol +1 carapace by symbol air units by seed still roaming around collosi started by seed baneling nest, infestor pit, drop, overlord speed, hive, and a 4th by symbol twilight council and more collosi by seed infestor upgrade finishes for symbol spire starting... when hive finally finishing (oO) blink and templar archives by seed big engagement and symbol on the losing end greater spire by symbol symbol using ultralisk... without their armor symbol still kills a bunch of seed's units after fight symbol remaxes seed getting fleet beacon corruptors (for bl's) + ultralisks by symbol dark shrine starting by seed mothership started by seed symbol still not going into bl's... still doing ultralisks 6 bases (zerg) to 4 bases (protoss) mothership is out dt harass around the other zerg bases
seed establishing another 2 bases
broodlords finally starting
hydralisks being built again
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hmm seed should take this game now
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
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Will Seed reverse 3-kill? Maybe
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On February 04 2012 16:06 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 16:04 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:03 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:02 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:01 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:59 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:58 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:56 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:55 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:53 zhurai wrote:
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voidray killing all the roaches
lair starting + spores by symbol
+1 range starting by symbol
3rd base done by symbol symbol catches some sentries, but FF's chase them away (at least saving some) symbol at least doesn't lose his 3rd roach hydra by symbol robo starting by seed roach speed by symbol +1 by seed +2 range and burrow by symbol seed starting robo bay symbol pushing with roach hydra into 3rd 3rd started by seed +1 melee by symbol +1 carapace by symbol air units by seed still roaming around collosi started by seed baneling nest, infestor pit, drop, overlord speed, hive, and a 4th by symbol twilight council and more collosi by seed infestor upgrade finishes for symbol spire starting... when hive finally finishing (oO) blink and templar archives by seed big engagement and symbol on the losing end greater spire by symbol symbol using ultralisk... without their armor symbol still kills a bunch of seed's units after fight symbol remaxes seed getting fleet beacon corruptors (for bl's) + ultralisks by symbol dark shrine starting by seed mothership started by seed symbol still not going into bl's... still doing ultralisks 6 bases (zerg) to 4 bases (protoss) mothership is out dt harass around the other zerg bases seed establishing another 2 bases broodlords finally starting hydralisks being built again
neural parasite by symbol
seed vortexed the zerg army
mothership goes down
almost all of seed's army dies
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My view on that game: Seed's opening countered what Symbol tried to do. then symbol was behind, but he took a ton of risks to get back in the game, (like his army was 15 roahces, 6 hydras and he was already going hive, 3 evos, etc). Seed made a mistake, no scouting at all. He only scouted with phoenix when hive was 50% done, if he moved out there, he would have killed Symbol easily, but he chose to take a 4th base. Symbol got ahead at an engagement, but he could have crushed instead of traded if he had 1. good position with overlords (were far behind) and 2. dont forget banespeed... then mass stalkers beat ultras only, you Need fungals.... Then bad position by Seed in this last battle (get all ultras in vortex, leave colossi next to it)
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On February 04 2012 16:06 simmeh wrote:
hmm seed should take this game now
nevermind ;D
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make void rays when zerg has hive ffs.
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Don't understand why Seed isn't doing what he did vs Monster. He literally never left his 4th base area in that game. From that area he could protect his 5th as well.
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On February 04 2012 16:07 MooMooMugi wrote:
Will Seed reverse 3-kill? Maybe
Seed is on IM..... you know, the team with 3 kills already
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Looking good for Symbol.
Another Mommaship...
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Those few hydras actually did great. So impressed!
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Holy shit Seed just collapsed. It's like he just stopped paying attention at the key moments.
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On February 04 2012 16:07 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 16:06 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:04 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:03 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:02 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 16:01 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:59 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:58 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:56 zhurai wrote:On February 04 2012 15:55 zhurai wrote:
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symbol catches some sentries, but FF's chase them away (at least saving some)
symbol at least doesn't lose his 3rd
roach hydra by symbol
robo starting by seed
roach speed by symbol
+1 by seed
+2 range and burrow by symbol seed starting robo bay symbol pushing with roach hydra into 3rd 3rd started by seed +1 melee by symbol +1 carapace by symbol air units by seed still roaming around collosi started by seed baneling nest, infestor pit, drop, overlord speed, hive, and a 4th by symbol twilight council and more collosi by seed infestor upgrade finishes for symbol spire starting... when hive finally finishing (oO) blink and templar archives by seed big engagement and symbol on the losing end greater spire by symbol symbol using ultralisk... without their armor symbol still kills a bunch of seed's units after fight symbol remaxes seed getting fleet beacon corruptors (for bl's) + ultralisks by symbol dark shrine starting by seed mothership started by seed symbol still not going into bl's... still doing ultralisks 6 bases (zerg) to 4 bases (protoss) mothership is out dt harass around the other zerg bases seed establishing another 2 bases broodlords finally starting hydralisks being built again neural parasite by symbol seed vortexed the zerg army mothership goes down almost all of seed's army dies
symbol takes down 2 of seed's bases
crackling upgrade started
mothership #2 finishes
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On February 04 2012 16:07 MooMooMugi wrote:
Will Seed reverse 3-kill? Maybe
??? what now IM 3-1
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While i do enjoy long macro games i wouldn't mind a couple quick cheese games to speed things along.
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