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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 02 2012 09:48 GMT
#721
On February 02 2012 18:47 KiNGxXx wrote:
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On February 02 2012 18:46 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:45 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:44 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:43 Bashion wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:42 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:41 Pandemona wrote:
OOOO My favorite map :D /bow blizzard for making a good map :D

Wait until they remove it next season


And put steps of war back. Now with more rocks.


Its just rocks. The tall grass has been replaced by rocks as well

I want a gold at my natural


I maintain though, that map COULD be great if its modified a bit. Like....adding to the rush distance and making the side bases viable to use

Then you have Crossfire


.....you just blew my mind
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 02 2012 09:49 GMT
#722
On February 02 2012 18:46 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 18:45 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:44 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:43 Bashion wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:42 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:41 Pandemona wrote:
OOOO My favorite map :D /bow blizzard for making a good map :D

Wait until they remove it next season


And put steps of war back. Now with more rocks.


Its just rocks. The tall grass has been replaced by rocks as well

I want a gold at my natural


I maintain though, that map COULD be great if its modified a bit. Like....adding to the rush distance and making the side bases viable to use


Ironically enough, that's basically Entombed valley. The main/nat/third are almost identical to Steppes of War.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
February 02 2012 09:49 GMT
#723
dropships coming in - dropking coming to ya....
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
February 02 2012 09:49 GMT
#724
On February 02 2012 18:48 Blaec wrote:
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On February 02 2012 18:43 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:40 SniXSniPe wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:38 Whatson wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:36 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:34 Whatson wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:32 SniXSniPe wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:28 noddy wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:25 SniXSniPe wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:23 Corrosive wrote:
[quote]
Actually, to do that, you have to be good at the game


No, microing stalkers against marines/SCVs which are slower and take about 25 shots to kill a stalker when the marine count is about equal is no different than stutter stepping.

And I suppose I am good at the game (high masters on NA, had a high enough MMR to play against a 900+ KR on my trial account and win before time ran out), maybe not at the level of these Koreans Code S players, but that kind of micro wasn't "OMG AMAZING".


"maybe"? You're far inferior to Code S players. Honestly high masters on NA is nothing, don't downplay incredibly good play to try and look good.


No, it's because I'm good that I recognize that game was won strictly on builds. Even if I'm 'far inferior' to Code S players, it's been proven that 'High master NA' players can take games off Code S Koreans (cough gowser vs Polt 2-1). For the record I did beat MVPTails on ladder at least, so what about you?

The micro was not as amazing as people make it seem like. He was stutter stepping and running them back when they were hurt, I realize you lower league players can't handle things like that even though the units take 20+ hits to kill but stop making it seem mind-blowing and amazing. 3 Marines vs 2 Stalkers is nothing crazy, even with 6 SCVs considering Stalkers are faster.

Since you're so gosu, go take Oz's place right now and play for him. It's not like he was only worrying about microing at that point lol.



I don't understand the way people are responding to what this guy said...he's just saying what Oz did wasn't that hard...>_>

It was just stalkers out microing those units that they always outmicro.

I saw masters league streamers do comparable micro to that. Just becuase it looked cool doesn't mean it was really hard to do necessarily.

I'm not saying it was ridiculously great micro lol plenty of masters and GMs can do that kind of stuff. I just think until you're the one in the booth playing for a bigass prize against the best players in the world, you shouldn't compare yourself to them. my 2 cents.


Mega's post nailed it.


Another issue is how biased the TL forums are.

Game #2 was much more entertaining, but because a protoss favorite player lost, Game #1 still is voted as being more recommended.

That early aggression play was practically a build order win (the map also played a part due to how open the natural is). How is that more impressive than a late game where macro/micro is much more important in determining who wins?


TL bias tends to swing with the most prominent QQ of the time. It used to be zergs, but ever since the 1/1/1 and the infamous front page balance whine article Protoss have learned that they can indeed give the zergs a run for their money in the whining department.


Nah just everyone hates terran. Its that simple

There's that too...
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
February 02 2012 09:49 GMT
#725
Just don't forget 3-3 this time oz.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 02 2012 09:49 GMT
#726
On February 02 2012 18:45 Mobius_1 wrote:
GSL Ro16 Group B
Match 1 Game 3
SlayerS_MMA vs FXOz
Entombed Valley


0:00
MMA spawns T7
Oz spawns P1

Oz takes both gases after Core, expands off 1 gate
MMA opens 1 rax gasless FE at natural, scouted by a probe, follows up with 2 more raxes


5:00
MMA makes 3rd CC and takes main geysers
Oz takes a poke up MMA's natural but pushed back by huge marine force
Said marine force pushes out and catches a few stalkers and sentries unattended
MMA teching to Starport while Oz double forge upgrading and researching blink. 3 chronoboosts in close proximity look so pretty
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Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
February 02 2012 09:49 GMT
#727
I thought Artosis was going to say MC
I've got moves like Jagger
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 09:50:55
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#728
MMA once again finishing 1/1/CombatShields as Armory finishes.

On February 02 2012 18:49 Bashion wrote:
I thought Artosis was going to say MC


He's talking about MMA vs Oz game 3. From November.
mandigal
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany231 Posts
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#729
MMAs propably could just 1 a directly into Oz with a ton of bio after those sentry losses, but he looks very careful.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#730
Oz is way behind now 2base vs 3 base and no sign of being able to do anything, MMA powering up hard, will be 200 soon
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#731
I don't know why but I have really been enjoying watching TvP's lately.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#732
Only thing oz has going for him is the great upgrades.

Rushing upgrades and not getting colossus or a third though.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#733
Isn't this the exact same map where Oz came back from way behind and beat MMA in some months ago?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#734
This is starting to feel more and more like an all-in by Oz
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#735
Is MMA actually ahead on bases?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#736
Here, have some free zealots!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
February 02 2012 09:51 GMT
#737
On February 02 2012 18:46 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 18:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:44 R!! wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:39 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:38 TheHova wrote:
It was fine for Oz to lose that game, Crossfire is a hideous map and I have no idea why it's even still in the map pool.

have to agree, the amount of chokes is absurd

I approve of your facetiously hidden balance whine, but Colossus, colossus.

wasnt balance whine, chokes are amazing for sentry too, and storm on chokes is good, its nothing about balance i just think a lot of chokes is bad map design

it makes the games seem a lot easier..EMPs/storms/AoE are all more effective and a seemingly even game sorta falls apart with one splash attack -.-

at the same time its really easy for T to get a amazing arc at bottom of ramp its impossible for P to engage,
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 02 2012 09:51 GMT
#738
On February 02 2012 18:50 Elurie wrote:
Isn't this the exact same map where Oz came back from way behind and beat MMA in some months ago?


Nah, that was calm before the storm.

This has been an absolutely horrible game from Oz.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
February 02 2012 09:51 GMT
#739
What is Oz doing?!?!!?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 02 2012 09:51 GMT
#740
On February 02 2012 18:48 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 18:47 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:46 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:45 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:44 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:43 Bashion wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:42 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 02 2012 18:41 Pandemona wrote:
OOOO My favorite map :D /bow blizzard for making a good map :D

Wait until they remove it next season


And put steps of war back. Now with more rocks.


Its just rocks. The tall grass has been replaced by rocks as well

I want a gold at my natural


I maintain though, that map COULD be great if its modified a bit. Like....adding to the rush distance and making the side bases viable to use

Then you have Crossfire


.....you just blew my mind

That was disturbingly accurate lol
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