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[GSL] 2012 Jan Code S RO32 D8 - Page 57

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Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:31:35
January 19 2012 11:31 GMT
#1121
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2012 20:26 KiNGxXx wrote:
[image loading]


Damnit he copied the NaDa robot dance -.-
How bm
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 19 2012 11:31 GMT
#1122
On January 19 2012 20:29 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:27 Asha` wrote:
*hi-fives MrCon*

aw yeah.

I'm such a protoss new talent finder :D I was a hipster nerd on Oz and Parting, and LOOK, LOOK !
*hi-fives


Don't ever predict how the finals that he will inevitably get to goes, or we will both get killed to death by DTs.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
January 19 2012 11:32 GMT
#1123
On January 19 2012 20:29 usethis2 wrote:
Did Nada really research strike cannons for the purpose of getting rid of thor energy? No wonder Blizzard is axing that ill-concepted unit.

It was a slightly less ill-concepted unit before they came up with this terrible fix to the ThorZaIN build.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:33:37
January 19 2012 11:32 GMT
#1124
On January 19 2012 20:31 Wockets wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2012 20:26 KiNGxXx wrote:
[image loading]


Damnit he copied the NaDa robot dance -.-
How bm

At least he didn't go into his booth.

Also, I love how the only useful thing 250 mm does is to actually get rid of energy LOL
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 19 2012 11:32 GMT
#1125
Parting doesn't have a hope of making it to the finals if he keeps playing like he did today. There are far more scary opponents than Nada and Puzzle in Code S.
Trogdor
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
January 19 2012 11:32 GMT
#1126
can someone link me the gom player link? the site is still down for me
I may not have the collectors edition, but my copy of sc2 is signed by Jaedong :D UPDATE: also by MC
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 19 2012 11:32 GMT
#1127
On January 19 2012 20:30 SeaSwift wrote:
Parting's unit control looks dodgy. He barely beat both Nada and Puzzle by the skin of his teeth.

Yeah. Yesterday already in the KSL he lost a won game (well, I think he could have won it) by making strange decisions, and today his control is average. Hope he'll do better in the next round, because he'll need it.
gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
January 19 2012 11:32 GMT
#1128
keen to win this!
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:35:07
January 19 2012 11:33 GMT
#1129
Hellions and Thors are how you used to go mech against toss. But blue flame hellion nerf and strike cannon nerf pretty much stopped that composition cold. Hellions take longer to kill zealots and what are you going to do with 140 energy thors even with strike cannon. nada tried to see if marine Thor could fulfill that role. Hate those 2 mech nerfs
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:34:36
January 19 2012 11:33 GMT
#1130
On January 19 2012 20:29 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:27 Asha` wrote:
*hi-fives MrCon*

aw yeah.

I'm such a protoss new talent finder :D I was a hipster nerd on Oz and Parting, and LOOK, LOOK !
*hi-fives


OMG YOU TOO! THERE ARE MORE OF US?!

EDIT: I do agree that he has some areas that could use a little work though. But MAN, is this guy going to be SOOOO good as he refines some little things here and there.

I swear those two and genius are going to lead the way towards changing how people play toss. Well, them and possibly some new blood that haven't really hit the scene yet.
aka ilovesharkpeople
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:33:48
January 19 2012 11:33 GMT
#1131
On January 19 2012 20:30 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:27 Scila wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:25 raga4ka wrote:
I think this Thor/Banshee/Marine composition is a lot more solid then standart MMM i don't know why terrans just use it as an all - in .

...because it gets destroyed as soon as Toss get's immortals/HTs/chargelots? Don't even need all 3 of these units, just a combination of two. Feedback can one shot banshees i believe and does 200 dmg to max energy thors. Immortals just rip Thors apart, and chargelots are very cost effective against them too.


It needs some tweaking, but I think it can definitely work. Work in some ghosts, dump shrike cannon energy, be careful not to engage in chokes like Nada did in the very last fight... it will require some FANTASTIC positioning sense and unit control though. Also balancing total numbers of thors banshees and ghosts, whether or not to mix in tanks etc etc.

SC2 is becoming cooler and cooler as people get better and better at it.

EDIT: BTW, did you know you can emp your own thors/banshees to avoid feedback damage?

its just not really strong build. it bases really much on how much banshees can harass in the early game and how good toss is at responding to this.
see it like 2base mech attack vs zerg, its just gimmicky and takes almost no skill to execute

as macro build well, still not so good because toss does get that 3rd base alot alot faster plus most toss units are designed to beat this stuff pretty easily. people didnt play mech before blue flame nerf so its even worse now.
even goody stopped playing mech vs toss cause he says its not so good anymore

when hots come however its all possibilities in the world for new styles i rly hope mech becomes coexistant with bio and biomech in all matchups
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:33:47
January 19 2012 11:33 GMT
#1132
On January 19 2012 20:30 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:27 Scila wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:25 raga4ka wrote:
I think this Thor/Banshee/Marine composition is a lot more solid then standart MMM i don't know why terrans just use it as an all - in .

...because it gets destroyed as soon as Toss get's immortals/HTs/chargelots? Don't even need all 3 of these units, just a combination of two. Feedback can one shot banshees i believe and does 200 dmg to max energy thors. Immortals just rip Thors apart, and chargelots are very cost effective against them too.


It needs some tweaking, but I think it can definitely work. Work in some ghosts, dump shrike cannon energy, be careful not to engage in chokes like Nada did in the very last fight... it will require some FANTASTIC positioning sense and unit control though. Also balancing total numbers of thors banshees and ghosts, whether or not to mix in tanks etc etc.

SC2 is becoming cooler and cooler as people get better and better at it.

EDIT: BTW, did you know you can emp your own thors/banshees to avoid feedback damage?


By the time you can afford Ghosts with Thors Protoss will have Colossus, and Colossus will shut this down completely. Yes, it seems like a plausible strat in a vacuum(using Ghosts to remove energy and to EMP templars and Immortal shields), but you're forgetting thatt by that point, the Toss will ahve all the tech he wants.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 19 2012 11:33 GMT
#1133
On January 19 2012 20:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:26 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:25 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:24 HolyArrow wrote:
PHEW. Parting :D Why didn't NaDa scan the DTs though? His OC had almost full energy at his natural I think.

He didn't know

That's odd. The DT slicing sound is very recognizable. I've seen most pros scan once the DTs get a single hit in.

Well, in the midst of zealots, archons, immortals, banshees, marines, thors, scvs, storms, feedbacks and whatnot I'm sure it's not really easy. Parting sent in the dts during the engagement, not before.


I'm pretty sure that final engagement only had Thors, Immortals, and DTs. Marines and SCVs were pretty much all dead, there were no storms or feedbacks in that engagement (he made his HTs into an Archon, remember?). I'll rewatch the VOD to check later.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 19 2012 11:33 GMT
#1134
On January 19 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:29 MrCon wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:27 Asha` wrote:
*hi-fives MrCon*

aw yeah.

I'm such a protoss new talent finder :D I was a hipster nerd on Oz and Parting, and LOOK, LOOK !
*hi-fives


Don't ever predict how the finals that he will inevitably get to goes, or we will both get killed to death by DTs.

Yeah, discovering the next true protoss hope is the only useful talent moi have.
_laine
Profile Joined October 2011
35 Posts
January 19 2012 11:34 GMT
#1135
On January 19 2012 20:32 Trogdor wrote:
can someone link me the gom player link? the site is still down for me

This would happen to me last week, but if I click "Official Stream: GOMTV" under TL Calendar, the website works.
Trogdor
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
January 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#1136
On January 19 2012 20:34 _laine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:32 Trogdor wrote:
can someone link me the gom player link? the site is still down for me

This would happen to me last week, but if I click "Official Stream: GOMTV" under TL Calendar, the website works.



thanks, but that didn't work =\
I may not have the collectors edition, but my copy of sc2 is signed by Jaedong :D UPDATE: also by MC
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#1137
On January 19 2012 20:33 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:29 MrCon wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:27 Asha` wrote:
*hi-fives MrCon*

aw yeah.

I'm such a protoss new talent finder :D I was a hipster nerd on Oz and Parting, and LOOK, LOOK !
*hi-fives


Don't ever predict how the finals that he will inevitably get to goes, or we will both get killed to death by DTs.

Yeah, discovering the next true protoss hope is the only useful talent moi have.

I saw that pic from fishuu: You are handsome, too.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Budzlight
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States578 Posts
January 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#1138
Ya nither link will work for me either. This is hurting ESPORTS!!!!!
I was the 5% that voted for thorzain in the TSL for round 1
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#1139
But with Asha we felt Parting's power long ago, seeing how he destroys every early terran aggression with his stalkers.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
January 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#1140
This build is a nice cheese build, but nothing you can bring up every game. It can be countered by Templar/Immortal play, as we saw.
I don't see any1 succeeding on a high level by using this build as a standard strat in most of his games!

So first part of the job done Parting, very nice. Now it's up to Puzzle to complete my prediction :-)
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