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On January 19 2012 22:53 Masayume wrote:
I respect Naniwa for making this decision. I wish more players would get together and make a fist against the ridiculous situation that is BNet 0.2 without LAN support for tournaments. Think about it, how much trouble has already been caused by the constant lag issues whenever there is even a slight peak of activity in a concentrated region of BNet? A Lot, too much.
The delays affect the mental state and focus of players, cause huge delays and problems for the tournaments and more. Then there is the constant issue with Blizzard having to whitelist events and not doing a good job at that. That some players stay meek and pretend to be blind to the issues at hand doesn't mean it's all fine and dandy.
I have been a Blizzard fan my whole life, but it's getting out of hand with the obvious degradation of their online and offline service and support. This combined with a much larger professional gaming scene makes for one bad formula. I do hope that Blizzard is working on a solution for these constant issues, and I fully agree with the decision of Naniwa.
I think the best picture was drawn at IPL when people had to play singleplayer or BW when internet went down to warm up. I couldnt stop laughing. Even freaking WoW has LAN version.
And i dont understand why IEM gets so many flak, at almost every other tournaments similar conditions were present. IPL, HSC, MLG, even there was a regame at GSL.
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On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:
Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.
And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down... Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal.
Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.
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On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa
Thats even more sad really. I would rather see you DDE atleast you give it all and got a professional mindset.
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Maybe Naniwa just rage quit the tournament like we ALT F4 from a loss in StarCraft but then we come back. He just does it at another level :D .
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On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa
I think they got a Silver SEA to replace you, no offense ofc.
@ the Nani update, I really hope that it's PC related, really looking forward to good games.
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On January 19 2012 22:55 DrGreen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:
Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.
And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down... Strelok didnt have PC freezes.
This is confirmed ?
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On January 19 2012 22:55 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 22:50 paintfive wrote:
IntelEM IntelExtremeMasters
Nani is back in the tournament area, checking another PC. He is not officially out of the event.
!!!! YAY !!!! That's great! I know I said I wasn't a fan anymore a few pages back, but when your a fan, you can help it  And I do understands Nani's rage, but upsets me he forfeitet after one game when this issue might desolve after awhile (: Ok, now nani please just, dont type. Be nice and try your best!
ESL should just have him kicked after forfeit. Now he "changed his mind", what a joke.
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On January 19 2012 22:56 qke wrote:
dde, just stop, stop. You aren´t 10% as good as Naniwa. You dont even deserve to play a playhem cup.
Even if that was true (and he's nowhere near that bad) he is still 100 times more mannered.
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On January 19 2012 22:56 qke wrote:
dde, just stop, stop. You aren´t 10% as good as Naniwa. You dont even deserve to play a playhem cup.
you are pretty much bashing every single NA players because I got the 1st seed from NA/SA qualfier.
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I personally got no problem with Naniwa's decision this time around.
Playing with lag is a problem, if it's a normal ladder game. Not to mention the prize pool of the tournament.
Maybe could've asked for a re-schedule or something in that line, but it's his call in the end and I don't have anything bad to say about this case.
Probe rushing thou - pretty stupid :D
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On January 19 2012 22:56 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa Thats even more sad really. I would rather see you DDE atleast you give it all and got a professional mindset.
Naniwa didn't took his spot so put the fork down.
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LOL guess there is going to be lots to talk about in the next sotg. I hope Naniwa comes back though but I expected better after all that happened.
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On January 19 2012 22:57 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa I think they got a Silver SEA to replace you, no offense ofc.
You're not insulting TargA are you?
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On January 19 2012 22:52 TeeTS wrote:
Well this situation is completely different from the one in the Blizzard Cup...
A tournament has to guarantee proper playing conditions. And LAG is the worst possible thing that can happen. As TLO said on Apollo's stream, you'd rather play without a chair than with lag, especially as a pro gamer. And when you host a big money offline tournament you have to make sure, that your internet connection is capable enough. REALLY big organisation blunder.
And it doesn't make any sense to discuss which player may be more affected by the lag. It must not happen on a tournament that wants to build up such a prestige like IEM wants. It seems like a fuckin joke to me, to be honest.
I am pretty sure they checked the internet beforehand...
1. The venue is a huge permanent eSports-LAN-cafe that should have perfect internet connections for hundreds of pc's at the same time anyway
2. They used the same venue before
I guess the problems just occured today and could not be foreseen.
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lmao all the swedes are getting so defencive <3 love the patriotism tho : D
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On January 19 2012 22:54 Niklas W wrote:
How can people blame Naniwa? It's his first major tournament in a while, he took a 20h flight to get there. When the game starts the equitment isen't good enought for the pros to even play close to their best. What's the point playing if you cant compete on you're max level due to technical issues?
100% sure Tiger Woods would refuse to play with a broken golf club also.
Good point, hope the new PC they're checking out for him will let him play 100% or close!
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haha dde getting flamed by angry swedes =(
WhiteRa and Strelok seem to be playing alright so far, no complaints from either too =p
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On January 19 2012 22:57 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa I think they got a Silver SEA to replace you, no offense ofc. @ the Nani update, I really hope that it's PC related, really looking forward to good games.
Would DDE forfeit a tournament over a game? Naniwa is a disgrace to ESPORTS and Sweden overall
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On January 19 2012 22:56 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:
Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.
And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down... Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal. Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.
Lets say you have a desk job, and your boss supplies you with a chair that falls apart if you sit in it a certain way. Would you just do your job standing up or would you ask for a new chair?
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On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa
With all respect, I don't think NaNi gives two craps about "your" spot, if that spot includes a two hour delay and then being forced to play on a laggy PC/connection.
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