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Please try not to bash players, casters, countries, races, users, balance, apple pie, etc. in the Live Report threads. These threads are not meant for bashing.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
January 19 2012 14:00 GMT
#721
On January 19 2012 22:56 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:

Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.

And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down...


Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal.

Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.


Excuse me? I fully agree that forfeiting lik nani did is just BS and very unprofessional, but not articulating about such grave flaws in a tournament, you must be joking.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
beute
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany197 Posts
January 19 2012 14:00 GMT
#722
On January 19 2012 22:48 michielbrands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:44 beute wrote:
Naniwa trying to shove it up ESLs face by forfeiting the tournament.
A ban should be issued as soon as possible.

i was ok with him probe rushing nestea, I thought that losing Code S for that was a stupid decision by GomTv(and i still think it is, a pointless game shouldnt be played)

But this is stupid...
Strelok played under the same conditions and he had to play naniwa knowing that losing the series could destroy his tournament chances.
and now it was all for nothing... imagine he would've lost, imagine naniwa winning with those lags, he wouldnt have forfeited the tournament, he would've continued.
It's just inacceptable...
Now if the ESL keep the 2:1 score instead of making it 2:0 it becomes even worse...


Sorry but I think you're wrong, following NaNiwa already since his arrival in the wc3 scene. I think I can say for pretty sure he would also forfeit if he won. NaNiWa wants proper conditions else he don't play....

And he is right in that way, however in this particular case he is also an invite, who is there to represent the Korean scene and in that light it isn't smart that he forfeited. However beside of that, his decision makes full sense in my opinion.

I seriously seriously doubt that.
He played through 3 games of huge lag and not ONCE did he leave early because of it, he even stayed in the game after a failed proxy gate rush..., he stayed in the game after his nexus and 1 colossus went down, he stayed in there till the reinforcements of strelok finished off the second colossus...

I dont know, but trying so desperately to win a game despite of all the lag strongly indicates that he intended to stay in the tournament...
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 19 2012 14:00 GMT
#723
On January 19 2012 22:57 Tobblish wrote:
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On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa


I think they got a Silver SEA to replace you, no offense ofc.

@ the Nani update, I really hope that it's PC related, really looking forward to good games.



The fuck is your problem? TargA is top 50 on the EU ladder right now ... SEA SILVER????
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#724
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3

I'm defending him too.

Aussie pride.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#725
Just woke up, could someone explain why there are no sc2 streams from Kiev itself(?)
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#726
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#727
On January 19 2012 22:59 mvtaylor wrote:
Maybe Naniwa bothered to look at this thread again and saw people weren't 100% behind his stupid antics and decided to give it another go.

For all these stupid analogies people are making they aren't even thinking to realise that it affects both players, Naniwa wasn't at a disadvantage he just hasn't got the mental strength of other pros.

PS: oh god the bass

And how do you know they are equally affected? Are you sitting next to naniwa? There is internet problems at the event, but naniwa also said there were PC problems before his match even started.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#728
On January 19 2012 22:59 mvtaylor wrote:
Maybe Naniwa bothered to look at this thread again and saw people weren't 100% behind his stupid antics and decided to give it another go.

For all these stupid analogies people are making they aren't even thinking to realise that it affects both players, Naniwa wasn't at a disadvantage he just hasn't got the mental strength of other pros.

PS: oh god the bass


Honestly i think Quantic might had a word with him, makes sense. A guy like Naniwa needs to be talked to after he goes a little mental.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#729
On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa


He took his spot from one of the Koreans he can't beat for his life in the GSL.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#730
naniwa is a joke lol.
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#731
On January 19 2012 23:00 Arc1 wrote:
mbCARMAC Michal Blicharz
Naniwa has not quit to the best of my knowledge.


Yeah, and Liquipedia now has revoked it's walkover claims etc:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Kiev

I'm confused -.-
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#732
calling worker rushes from Naniwa in all his games
Stork[gm]
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
January 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#733
On January 19 2012 23:01 bgx wrote:
calling worker rushes from Naniwa in all his games

I call that you're wrong.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
January 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#734
On January 19 2012 22:59 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:56 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:

Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.

And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down...


Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal.

Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.

To what degree? What if a tournament forced them to play one race, without a chair, on the KR server on Steppes of War while lagging.
The pros shouldn't say anything because they're doing what the fans and sponsors want right?
Fuck no, SC2 is about the players more than anyone else.

Lag is not the end of the world. It's more like playing football in the rain.

And it's not about the players more than anyone else. It's a symbiotic relationship between players, fans, casters and sponsors. Without all of them none of this is possible.
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
January 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#735
On January 19 2012 23:00 Arc1 wrote:
mbCARMAC Michal Blicharz
Naniwa has not quit to the best of my knowledge.

https://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/159998259883032576

This situation is so odd. Did they report him quitting when he in fact didn't?
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
January 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#736
IMHO NaNi is a prima example af a "rage kiddie". Same skills, other midset and he would crush, and he know it; hes not stupid. But the rage kiddie inside of him just gets him everytime.
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
PapaJed
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden211 Posts
January 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#737
I´m from sweden and I think Naniwa is acting like a jerk.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
January 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#738
Those Space-Marines sound so funny when they die. Almost like: "YEAH!".
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
January 19 2012 14:03 GMT
#739
On January 19 2012 23:00 ReaperX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:57 Tobblish wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa


I think they got a Silver SEA to replace you, no offense ofc.

@ the Nani update, I really hope that it's PC related, really looking forward to good games.



The fuck is your problem? TargA is top 50 on the EU ladder right now ... SEA SILVER????

Also he is a beastly player on stream, beating top players from EU all the time!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:04:10
January 19 2012 14:03 GMT
#740
On January 19 2012 23:01 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:00 Arc1 wrote:
mbCARMAC Michal Blicharz
Naniwa has not quit to the best of my knowledge.

https://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/159998259883032576

Yeah, and Liquipedia now has revoked it's walkover claims etc:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Kiev

I'm confused -.-


So am I, well time to watch Lions eSportKlubb vs Natus Vincere. At least there is no drama.....yet!
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