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KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 17 2012 11:39 GMT
#1701
Did we see somebody taking the islands already?
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 17 2012 11:39 GMT
#1702
On January 17 2012 20:39 KiNGxXx wrote:
Did we see somebody taking the islands already?


no
Zest fanboy.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
January 17 2012 11:40 GMT
#1703
Metropolis seems like a good map for PvZ. Sage played a very nice game vs IMTrue on it yesterday.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
January 17 2012 11:40 GMT
#1704
On January 17 2012 20:36 mTwTT1 wrote:
do u guys like it when u hear casters talking about a players skill level? makes me want to pull my hair out everytime

Depends if their comments are correct or not. Casters in All sports talk about plauer skill when they are worse than the player, it's pretty hard to commentate any game without talking about player skill.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 17 2012 11:40 GMT
#1705
All these new maps looks really cool and exciting I hope Blizzard implement more GSL/Community map in the ladder pool
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 11:42:04
January 17 2012 11:41 GMT
#1706
On January 17 2012 20:37 Pipeline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 20:33 Salteador Neo wrote:
And this is why people say mutas are OP on certain maps PvZ.


Grabbing statements out of thin air. My brain tricks me every day to think that maybe, just maybe the LR threads would be about the games, but Im let down every day :<


I'm not saying they are btw, because I don't think so. Tastosis commented on it and so did I.

Also, this map looks awesome and kinda BW-ish :D
Revolutionist fan
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 11:42:21
January 17 2012 11:41 GMT
#1707
On January 17 2012 20:35 Lysanias wrote:
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On January 17 2012 20:33 Salteador Neo wrote:
And this is why people say mutas are OP on certain maps PvZ.


Ye had nothing to do with the build JYP used, muta's are not OP.


mutas are op after a certain point- in blizz cup drg vs mc game 1 drg got his plan going and there was nothing mc could do even with perfect defense. Genius showed that with a perfectly executed 2base attack you can gimp the zerg if he goes for mutas and eventually win (he would've won that even if drg hadn't sacced his mutas for a base kill imo). but if the 2base attack doesn't occur, and he gets his mutas out, the protoss is instantly in a stupid spot where he is contained and forced to defend on 3 fronts while the zerg expands his ass out and wins eventually, or a basetrade occurs where the protoss loses 9 out of 10 times.

it's kinda the same reason 1-1-1 was op (and it's still pretty stupid)- terrans used to say you should all-in the terran first, but if it gets to the point when the attack can be executed it is heavily in the terrans favor.

ofc 1-1-1 was even more stupid cuz toss couldn't even react well if it was scouted. 3base muta can be destroyed if scouted.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 17 2012 11:41 GMT
#1708
We need to see some longer games on Metropolis in the gsl, looks like a really interesting map but i havent seen too much of it yet.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2874 Posts
January 17 2012 11:42 GMT
#1709
On January 17 2012 20:40 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 20:36 mTwTT1 wrote:
do u guys like it when u hear casters talking about a players skill level? makes me want to pull my hair out everytime

Depends if their comments are correct or not. Casters in All sports talk about plauer skill when they are worse than the player, it's pretty hard to commentate any game without talking about player skill.


it's fine if it's tastosis, at least. we've all seen tasteless and artosis play, so it's not like they're putting themselves on a pedestal. It's just commentary.

i feel the same way when movie critics talk about movies, a lot of the time, but it's inevitable.
aka wilted_kale
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
January 17 2012 11:42 GMT
#1710
On January 17 2012 20:15 sAsImre wrote:
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On January 17 2012 20:13 Kyuki wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:10 sAsImre wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:07 Hall0wed wrote:
The people that didn't like that last game should thinking about spending their time watching an FPS or something other than Starcraft. =/ Starcraft really isn't the game for you if you cannot appreciate how nice that game was.


Or that late game TvP is just stupid.


It's debatable.. That map though is really bad for Terran and personally I think it was over when Genius stopped the multipronged attacks and took his fourth. They both played great, but it's just too hard to play MM at that point as the chokes on daybreak makes it really hard to attack.


It's just that attacking puts you at an enormous disavantage on most of the maps because you'll atttack either in choke or near a pf/cannons if you're opponent isn't stupid. So you dance during 10+minutes waiting for someone to do a mistake, which usually decide the game (sC did one blunder, lost a CC and that was over)
What about Genius letting 9 ghosts freely EMP his entire army?Why didn't he lose? Actually, why did he end up with more supply after that engagement?Isn't emp supposed to do 50 million damage , especially when your ghosts can't be hit and you are a korean code S terran?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
January 17 2012 11:42 GMT
#1711
On January 17 2012 20:36 discobaas wrote:
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On January 17 2012 20:31 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:30 discobaas wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:27 ThatGuy89 wrote:
genius playing well? or just lucky/cheesey/all ins?

sucks i cant watch the games, fucking gom player -_-

vs drg 2nd map pretty good, countered drg's predictable roach into muta very well, was interesting (didnt see 1st map vs drg)
vs sc nothing special, made a ball, put down some cannons vs drops, let everything get emp'd, but still rolled him over and cheesed 2nd map


The first game was nothing special vs. sC? -_-

The only deviating factors from a completely standard protoss ball roll were genius' mass cannons and sc's nukes. The cannoning should be completely standard if your multitasking isn't up to par and the nukes weren't even effective. So if that's the kinda thing you hold in high regard, sure the game was sick! But realistically, it was pretty standard.

It's more than simple unit composition. I don't see how you can call that pretty standard.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 17 2012 11:42 GMT
#1712
On January 17 2012 20:38 ftd.rain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 20:23 MrCon wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:20 ftd.rain wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:15 frucisky wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:13 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:04 frucisky wrote:
On January 17 2012 20:04 50bani wrote:
The thing is I knew 10 minutes before that Protoss was going to win. How can that be an interesting game guys?

unlike you the rest of us didn't.


we so did.
When sC's drops did nothing and Genius got the CC for free the only way for sC to win was to land perfect emps, get a perfect confrontation or drop a nuke on the army or destroy the whole economy.
sC had like 35scvs and could reinforce very slowly.

Maybe the casting made it more exciting than it in reality was.

The game wasn't over for as long as he made it to be. They were equal even after their first major engagement. It was only truly over after the warp prism warp in and Genius killed all the ghosts.

Plus, how can it not be exciting to see a player deal with such multipronged harass so well. How many Protoss are actually able to do that throughout the game?

That zealot drop had great yet unnecessary impact, the game was pretty much over when genius got such a potent army and a big bank, terran can't reinforce as fast, even if you trade evenly you are gonna get overwhelmed simply because of the warpgate tech, it really is a game of numbers and I'm surprised anyone thought that the game was genuinely close.

Except on the same map, with the same scenario, each time the terran won before in the GSL. Ok the protoss was sangho iirc, and another I forgot, but still, it's far from an autowin from terran.
If you think that what you said has any correlation with what I pointed out, you are commiting a logical fallacy.Players are human beings with multiple characteristics very different from one another, I am not making wild assumptions, just pointing out how it's pretty hard to beat an entire army surging at your expos/main, while yours simply put can't get there in time, even if you have a huge number of barracks, your units will still come out scattered.

Yes it's hard, but as you said players are different and good players can take care of it.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
January 17 2012 11:43 GMT
#1713
Looks like we will not see anymore JYPvT today..
Perfecto
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines156 Posts
January 17 2012 11:44 GMT
#1714
On January 17 2012 05:47 Lorizean wrote:
sC 2:1 JYP
DRG 2:0 GNS*
DRG 2:0 sC
JYP 2:1 GNS
sC 2:1 JYP


*gotta keep the acronyms going, Genius' name doesn't fit in this group


GENIUS' NAME DOESN'T FIT IN THIS GROUP. ROFL!!!!!!
He drone drone drone. I All in I win.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
January 17 2012 11:44 GMT
#1715
JYP is so far behind is supply already. He's gonna have to control this perfectly.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
January 17 2012 11:44 GMT
#1716
On January 17 2012 20:25 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 20:19 Seeker wrote:
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

(23)
 
61%

(15)
 
39%

38 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

(Vote):
(Vote):



This poll is perfect because it is as unbiased as possible

Ofc there's the slight downside of you not knowing what exactly the votes are for, but that's a minor technicality!

if you watch the progression of the votes you notice that people tend to vote for the 1st option by default (at first). As results begin to come in you see some people begin to even out the voting by going for the option that's losing.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
January 17 2012 11:44 GMT
#1717
I hope JYP meets a decent player in his first code A round. No point in having him return to code S while in this form.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
January 17 2012 11:44 GMT
#1718
Oh my god this has been shambolic from JYP today
@followMVT
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
January 17 2012 11:45 GMT
#1719
Wow JYP got crushed today.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
January 17 2012 11:45 GMT
#1720
massive derp moment by JYP, blinking into zerglings.
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