• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:23
CEST 16:23
KST 23:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!40Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles3
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2?
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
Which box art did your first copy of StarCraft 1 have? BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group F Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3883 users

[GSL] 2012 Jan Code S RO32 D2 - Page 103

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 101 102 103 104 105 194 Next
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#2041
On January 10 2012 20:04 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock has the best ZvT in the world.


It's almost impossible to tell if Leenock or DRG have the best at the moment since they win and lose pretty 50/50-ish against the best TvZ'ers.

Regardless, they're both beasting in that matchup like no other zergs are.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
January 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#2042
Proxy 2 rax inc I think.
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 11:06:01
January 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#2043
Cheese from Supernova? :3

EDIT: just cool rax placement ;p
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
Focuspants
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada780 Posts
January 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#2044
i think tasteless thinks water skis are jet skis
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
January 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2045
On January 10 2012 20:05 Fionn wrote:
No, really, no one else saw the white guy with fox/cat ears on behind Tastosis? Am I just seeing things?


I saw it bro, he was there last set too!
Writer@joonjoewong
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 11:06:59
January 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2046
AHMYGOD TERAN DENAYING 2 BASE ZERG STIL WIN WHAT JOKE RAEC PLIS NERF BLIZ

Did I get that right? Or is that only a standard response when Z or P lose?
"Good luck." "I don't need luck. I have ammo."
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2047
On January 10 2012 20:05 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:03 Lysanias wrote:
BTW does any one know if Leenock is still going to school ? because he's still so young and i remember back in code A he was still doing Highschool.


I think it was said in an interview or something before the Finals (or maybe during MLG) that he isn't doing school. I could be totally wrong though. It would explain his recent gosuness though.


Very nice, that indeed explains alot, he was always good but recently he got so flipping badass.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
January 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2048
On January 10 2012 20:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:04 Irratonalys wrote:
cya guys , KT vs team 8 starting


-_-;; potential flash vs jaedong mu? /jizz


We were here for Leenock vs ForGG only, amirite?
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2049
On January 10 2012 20:05 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:52 TheDwf wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:50 nokz88 wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:46 Zorgaz wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:40 TheDwf wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:38 WigglingSquid wrote:
Terran early game was always perplexing me about cloaking and detection, and this is a good example of my reasons. It makes for very boring BO losses against every race which needs tech to detect... every one but Terran.

You know there are BO losses to Cloak Banshees even in TvT, right?


Yeah.... .

You know Protoss can get up a Robo with DT's around the same cost of cloaked banshees?

Fact-SP-Techlab-Cloak 550 minerals 425 gas


Twilight-Robo-Darkshrine 450 minerals 450 gas

Yes Terran has Scan, but if you hit just after a MULE'ing....


P generally should go robo unless he is absolutely 100% no banshees can be coming

ROFL such a fail post. You try to get the fastest DT tech with the Terran going for the fastest banshee tech, and tell me what happens

Actually, most of the DT expands / DT + prism strategies are played against scouted 1 rax FE, so it seems failure is yours.

look, passive aggresive posts won't diminish that failure of a post. Stop trying

He was trying to convince every sheep out there that since Robo + DT tech cost almost the same as banshee with cloak Protoss had no right to cry imba, but the truth is that banshee with cloak hits soooooo much earlier than DTs it's not even funny.


haha wtf that is so wrong
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2050
On January 10 2012 20:06 Plague1503 wrote:
AHMYGOD TERAN DENAYING 2 BASE ZERG STIL WIN WHAT JOKE RAEC PLIS NERF BLIZ

Did I get that right? Or is that only a standard response when Z or P lose?


nah sounds about right
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2051
On January 10 2012 20:06 Plague1503 wrote:
AHMYGOD TERAN DENAYING 2 BASE ZERG STIL WIN WHAT JOKE RAEC PLIS NERF BLIZ

Did I get that right? Or is that only a standard response when Z or P lose?


Add a bit of caster/player bashing, and definitely add the world "outplayed." That bit's critical.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2052
On January 10 2012 20:04 Irratonalys wrote:
cya guys , KT vs team 8 starting

I'm looking both at the same time until leenock's last game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Roostalol
Profile Joined June 2011
United States19 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2053
My personal nickname for Leenock is "Arbiter of Justice." he always seems to win when I want his opponent to lose, and lose when I think his opponent is more deserving of the win. I love this kid.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2054
hardcore cheese going on now
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37107 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2055
Nova is gooooooood

BUT NOCKO IS BETTER!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10060 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2056
On January 10 2012 20:06 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
On January 10 2012 20:04 Irratonalys wrote:
cya guys , KT vs team 8 starting


-_-;; potential flash vs jaedong mu? /jizz


We were here for Leenock vs ForGG only, amirite?


i was here for bosstoss, ill ditch him if jaedong and flash play tho
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 11:09:34
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2057
On January 10 2012 20:00 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:58 AndAgain wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:54 MorroW wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:51 AndAgain wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:37 MorroW wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:36 Thugtronik wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:34 bittman wrote:
BO loss =(


i don't know if i'd call this a build order loss. supernova with the brilliant mindgames this game.

its still silly because theres too many early games in tvp that end with "brilliant mindgames". its just the result of smart players who understand starcraft 2 alot in an early game with buildorders that reward risky play too much

in tvz and zvt you can do stuff that kinda gets you ahead abit (if its succesful) but theres not alot of stuff you can do to actually just end it


Scouting in PvT sucks (for protoss.) That really all there's to it.


its really hard for terran too. its not like you scout a toss not going robo and then decides to do cloak banshee
its just stupid blind play from both guys trying to scout and get the best odds of what someone is doing. but at times it happens that toss thinks its 1rax expand and its actually cloak banshee or 111 lol

and a terran who actually did a 1rax here and toss goes fast nexus and plays with really late robo, even dual forge before robo then terran is pretty fucked in general

a game cant be coinflip for only 1 side


Cloak banshee against an observer build doesn't put terran that much behind, relatively speaking. Banshees are faster than observers and should kill a few probes anyway. Also, it gives you tech that's gonna be very useful against colossi.

The imbalance in PvT is the relative risk that's involved for both sides. Terran has more safer options.

nono cloak banshee your so fucked if they 1gate expo =>3gate robo and stops it nicely.
if this wasnt the case we would see cloak banshees alot more often



Yeah idk what you're saying (edit: what AndAgain is saying). As someone who used to banshee rush every toss on the ladder, if they have a robo up you're ok in that you don't die right away but you need 10+ probe kills to justify cloak banshees. On 2 nexus with chrono, they'll be up on 10 probes by the time your banshees get there. Then if they do a hard allin like a 6gate robo, it's already hard to hold and now with lesser economy it's even worse. Or if they go for a quicker 3rd you can't punish it much either because you'll be trying to stabilze your two bases. Timings where the toss is weak for teching (weak when you start double forge or collusi about to come up), timings when they take a 3rd are all gone because you don't have units to punish it. Sick game by Supernova though till he lost all his tanks -_- Leenock was pretty good with mutas though, don't often see a zerg do that much with mutas so near marines.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2058
Leenock I heard you like bunkers, so here's three in your expansion.
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2059
I'm trying to watch the free live stream on my mac, yet whenever I click on it I just get a message saying more browser isn't supported? I have the gom player installed and everything. Any help?
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2060
On January 10 2012 20:04 bLah. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:58 AndAgain wrote:
Cloak banshee against an observer build doesn't put terran that much behind, relatively speaking. Banshees are faster than observers and should kill a few probes anyway. Also, it gives you tech that's gonna be very useful against colossi.

The imbalance in PvT is the relative risk that's involved for both sides. Terran has more safer options.


if P goes 1gate nexus into 3gate robo while terran is going cloaked banshee, terran is waaaaaaaay behind. screw tech if toss has 2 base against your 1, economy is overwhelming.

btw.leenock is pretty damn good still :o


Maybe it's me, but I feel like Banshees always get a dozen worker kills. No matter what game I've watched, I never seen them not get a bunch of kills, obs or not.

Honestly it's ridiculously hard for PvT and ZvT scouting early game. There's a lot of guessing sometimes and you just can't play safe every single game and hope to come out ahead. That game was just the result of guessing.
Prev 1 101 102 103 104 105 194 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 21
IntoTheiNu 1107
SteadfastSC334
TKL 170
Rex119
CosmosSc2 57
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 759
SteadfastSC 334
TKL 170
Rex 119
CosmosSc2 57
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3141
Bisu 2605
Jaedong 1437
Hyuk 886
Horang2 829
EffOrt 619
Light 482
Rush 286
Snow 273
Stork 248
[ Show more ]
ZerO 130
Zeus 107
Pusan 58
ToSsGirL 51
Sexy 38
Aegong 29
soO 28
Terrorterran 21
Sacsri 17
sorry 17
zelot 16
SilentControl 12
Rock 10
firebathero 0
Dota 2
Gorgc3084
qojqva1416
Dendi1045
syndereN345
Counter-Strike
zeus537
edward67
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu232
Other Games
singsing1926
hiko993
B2W.Neo813
DeMusliM320
Lowko285
Hui .239
mouzStarbuck219
Liquid`VortiX184
KnowMe100
Pyrionflax74
ArmadaUGS67
OGKoka 54
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 629
lovetv 10
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 5
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• EnkiAlexander 19
• mYiSmile115
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV375
League of Legends
• Jankos2010
• Nemesis1934
• TFBlade775
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
1h 53m
Replay Cast
9h 38m
The PondCast
19h 38m
OSC
1d 8h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 20h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Special KOR vs CHN
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.