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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#2041
On January 10 2012 20:04 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock has the best ZvT in the world.


It's almost impossible to tell if Leenock or DRG have the best at the moment since they win and lose pretty 50/50-ish against the best TvZ'ers.

Regardless, they're both beasting in that matchup like no other zergs are.
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Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
January 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#2042
Proxy 2 rax inc I think.
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 11:06:01
January 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#2043
Cheese from Supernova? :3

EDIT: just cool rax placement ;p
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Focuspants
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada780 Posts
January 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#2044
i think tasteless thinks water skis are jet skis
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
January 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2045
On January 10 2012 20:05 Fionn wrote:
No, really, no one else saw the white guy with fox/cat ears on behind Tastosis? Am I just seeing things?


I saw it bro, he was there last set too!
Writer@joonjoewong
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 11:06:59
January 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2046
AHMYGOD TERAN DENAYING 2 BASE ZERG STIL WIN WHAT JOKE RAEC PLIS NERF BLIZ

Did I get that right? Or is that only a standard response when Z or P lose?
"Good luck." "I don't need luck. I have ammo."
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2047
On January 10 2012 20:05 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:03 Lysanias wrote:
BTW does any one know if Leenock is still going to school ? because he's still so young and i remember back in code A he was still doing Highschool.


I think it was said in an interview or something before the Finals (or maybe during MLG) that he isn't doing school. I could be totally wrong though. It would explain his recent gosuness though.


Very nice, that indeed explains alot, he was always good but recently he got so flipping badass.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
January 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2048
On January 10 2012 20:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:04 Irratonalys wrote:
cya guys , KT vs team 8 starting


-_-;; potential flash vs jaedong mu? /jizz


We were here for Leenock vs ForGG only, amirite?
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2049
On January 10 2012 20:05 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:52 TheDwf wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:50 nokz88 wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:46 Zorgaz wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:40 TheDwf wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:38 WigglingSquid wrote:
Terran early game was always perplexing me about cloaking and detection, and this is a good example of my reasons. It makes for very boring BO losses against every race which needs tech to detect... every one but Terran.

You know there are BO losses to Cloak Banshees even in TvT, right?


Yeah.... .

You know Protoss can get up a Robo with DT's around the same cost of cloaked banshees?

Fact-SP-Techlab-Cloak 550 minerals 425 gas


Twilight-Robo-Darkshrine 450 minerals 450 gas

Yes Terran has Scan, but if you hit just after a MULE'ing....


P generally should go robo unless he is absolutely 100% no banshees can be coming

ROFL such a fail post. You try to get the fastest DT tech with the Terran going for the fastest banshee tech, and tell me what happens

Actually, most of the DT expands / DT + prism strategies are played against scouted 1 rax FE, so it seems failure is yours.

look, passive aggresive posts won't diminish that failure of a post. Stop trying

He was trying to convince every sheep out there that since Robo + DT tech cost almost the same as banshee with cloak Protoss had no right to cry imba, but the truth is that banshee with cloak hits soooooo much earlier than DTs it's not even funny.


haha wtf that is so wrong
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4541 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2050
On January 10 2012 20:06 Plague1503 wrote:
AHMYGOD TERAN DENAYING 2 BASE ZERG STIL WIN WHAT JOKE RAEC PLIS NERF BLIZ

Did I get that right? Or is that only a standard response when Z or P lose?


nah sounds about right
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2051
On January 10 2012 20:06 Plague1503 wrote:
AHMYGOD TERAN DENAYING 2 BASE ZERG STIL WIN WHAT JOKE RAEC PLIS NERF BLIZ

Did I get that right? Or is that only a standard response when Z or P lose?


Add a bit of caster/player bashing, and definitely add the world "outplayed." That bit's critical.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2052
On January 10 2012 20:04 Irratonalys wrote:
cya guys , KT vs team 8 starting

I'm looking both at the same time until leenock's last game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Roostalol
Profile Joined June 2011
United States19 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2053
My personal nickname for Leenock is "Arbiter of Justice." he always seems to win when I want his opponent to lose, and lose when I think his opponent is more deserving of the win. I love this kid.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
January 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2054
hardcore cheese going on now
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2055
Nova is gooooooood

BUT NOCKO IS BETTER!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10007 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2056
On January 10 2012 20:06 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
On January 10 2012 20:04 Irratonalys wrote:
cya guys , KT vs team 8 starting


-_-;; potential flash vs jaedong mu? /jizz


We were here for Leenock vs ForGG only, amirite?


i was here for bosstoss, ill ditch him if jaedong and flash play tho
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teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 11:09:34
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2057
On January 10 2012 20:00 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:58 AndAgain wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:54 MorroW wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:51 AndAgain wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:37 MorroW wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:36 Thugtronik wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:34 bittman wrote:
BO loss =(


i don't know if i'd call this a build order loss. supernova with the brilliant mindgames this game.

its still silly because theres too many early games in tvp that end with "brilliant mindgames". its just the result of smart players who understand starcraft 2 alot in an early game with buildorders that reward risky play too much

in tvz and zvt you can do stuff that kinda gets you ahead abit (if its succesful) but theres not alot of stuff you can do to actually just end it


Scouting in PvT sucks (for protoss.) That really all there's to it.


its really hard for terran too. its not like you scout a toss not going robo and then decides to do cloak banshee
its just stupid blind play from both guys trying to scout and get the best odds of what someone is doing. but at times it happens that toss thinks its 1rax expand and its actually cloak banshee or 111 lol

and a terran who actually did a 1rax here and toss goes fast nexus and plays with really late robo, even dual forge before robo then terran is pretty fucked in general

a game cant be coinflip for only 1 side


Cloak banshee against an observer build doesn't put terran that much behind, relatively speaking. Banshees are faster than observers and should kill a few probes anyway. Also, it gives you tech that's gonna be very useful against colossi.

The imbalance in PvT is the relative risk that's involved for both sides. Terran has more safer options.

nono cloak banshee your so fucked if they 1gate expo =>3gate robo and stops it nicely.
if this wasnt the case we would see cloak banshees alot more often



Yeah idk what you're saying (edit: what AndAgain is saying). As someone who used to banshee rush every toss on the ladder, if they have a robo up you're ok in that you don't die right away but you need 10+ probe kills to justify cloak banshees. On 2 nexus with chrono, they'll be up on 10 probes by the time your banshees get there. Then if they do a hard allin like a 6gate robo, it's already hard to hold and now with lesser economy it's even worse. Or if they go for a quicker 3rd you can't punish it much either because you'll be trying to stabilze your two bases. Timings where the toss is weak for teching (weak when you start double forge or collusi about to come up), timings when they take a 3rd are all gone because you don't have units to punish it. Sick game by Supernova though till he lost all his tanks -_- Leenock was pretty good with mutas though, don't often see a zerg do that much with mutas so near marines.
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artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2058
Leenock I heard you like bunkers, so here's three in your expansion.
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2059
I'm trying to watch the free live stream on my mac, yet whenever I click on it I just get a message saying more browser isn't supported? I have the gom player installed and everything. Any help?
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
January 10 2012 11:08 GMT
#2060
On January 10 2012 20:04 bLah. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:58 AndAgain wrote:
Cloak banshee against an observer build doesn't put terran that much behind, relatively speaking. Banshees are faster than observers and should kill a few probes anyway. Also, it gives you tech that's gonna be very useful against colossi.

The imbalance in PvT is the relative risk that's involved for both sides. Terran has more safer options.


if P goes 1gate nexus into 3gate robo while terran is going cloaked banshee, terran is waaaaaaaay behind. screw tech if toss has 2 base against your 1, economy is overwhelming.

btw.leenock is pretty damn good still :o


Maybe it's me, but I feel like Banshees always get a dozen worker kills. No matter what game I've watched, I never seen them not get a bunch of kills, obs or not.

Honestly it's ridiculously hard for PvT and ZvT scouting early game. There's a lot of guessing sometimes and you just can't play safe every single game and hope to come out ahead. That game was just the result of guessing.
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