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On December 20 2011 22:18 Orangeremi wrote:
Anyone else find it hypocritical that the Killer v Tassadar and Morrow v Bomber matches weren't played because they didn't matter? I mean in regards to the whole Naniwa situation, this just seems wrong.
They ALWAYS skip Up/Down games which don't mean anything. They played the BlizzCup game because people were paying 10 bucks for only a weeks worth of matches.
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United States15275 Posts
Inca might be the only Protoss to possibly advance from Up-and-Downs. As the only P in his group.
Think about that.
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No CC, Its an ALL IN guys
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On December 20 2011 22:18 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:16 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:13 Poopi wrote:On December 20 2011 22:12 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 20 2011 22:08 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:07 XRaDiiX wrote:On December 20 2011 22:07 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 22:06 XRaDiiX wrote:Maybe Terrans will start landing buildings/bringing buildings with their armies etc to land in-front of the armies so Zealots can't engage their bio as well. eg: funneling the zealots between the landed buildings forcing Protoss to dis-engage  Polt does this when he faces Zealot-heavy armies on his stream. Sometimes he also does auto-turret walls as well. Lol Nice that's probably why POLT is one of the top on Korean ladder  Or you can just use BFH and melt zealots in seconds. GG by Bomber. BFH are actually not that good against zealots considering the nerf Cost for cost and supply of supply theyre insanely good. Considering they trade well with sentriest AND stalkers aswell, and can be used for harass. You can't mix bio and hellions vP, and mech vP is insanely bad. Problem solved... Lol why? Is there some magic rule that prevents you from building more than one factory when you're maxed, or using the first factory to gradually add more hellions? Every time i face BFH mixed with bio on ladder i'm mindblown why other terrans are not using it, because it works so well. I lost to Carriers once too, they're insanely good. I wonder why they don't get used more.
Don't compare cheap tier 1.5 units that have alot of utility with Tier 3 unit that takes forever to build, tech to, cost fortune and gets hard countered by marines.
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On December 20 2011 22:18 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:16 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:13 Poopi wrote:On December 20 2011 22:12 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 20 2011 22:08 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:07 XRaDiiX wrote:On December 20 2011 22:07 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 22:06 XRaDiiX wrote:Maybe Terrans will start landing buildings/bringing buildings with their armies etc to land in-front of the armies so Zealots can't engage their bio as well. eg: funneling the zealots between the landed buildings forcing Protoss to dis-engage Polt does this when he faces Zealot-heavy armies on his stream. Sometimes he also does auto-turret walls as well. Lol Nice that's probably why POLT is one of the top on Korean ladder Or you can just use BFH and melt zealots in seconds. GG by Bomber. BFH are actually not that good against zealots considering the nerf Cost for cost and supply of supply theyre insanely good. Considering they trade well with sentriest AND stalkers aswell, and can be used for harass. You can't mix bio and hellions vP, and mech vP is insanely bad. Problem solved... Lol why? Is there some magic rule that prevents you from building more than one factory when you're maxed, or using the first factory to gradually add more hellions? Every time i face BFH mixed with bio on ladder i'm mindblown why other terrans are not using it, because it works so well. I lost to Carriers once too, they're insanely good. I wonder why they don't get used more.
cuz it's only worth anything if t doesn't scout until you have 10 of them?
blue flame helions are completely different, cheap and replenish supply insanely fast with reactor, it's certainly worth to have 10-15 of them that u can remake in 1 minute.
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On December 20 2011 22:19 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:18 Drazerk wrote:Game 13 on Crossfire SEIn the top right is  Gumioh While in the bottom left is Ryung
2:30
Barracks for both players Gumioh has taken his gas
3:10Expansion on the way for Ryung
4:00
Double gas from Ryung
Factory + reactor from Gumioh
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On December 20 2011 22:18 Orangeremi wrote:
Anyone else find it hypocritical that the Killer v Tassadar and Morrow v Bomber matches weren't played because they didn't matter? I mean in regards to the whole Naniwa situation, this just seems wrong.
Up/Down matches have always been like this. Blizzard Cup's rule was different from up/down matches.
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On December 20 2011 22:19 654321 wrote:
morrow was so good as terran reaper. why move to zerg =(
His ZvP needs some work, but his ZvT is decent even by korean standards
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On December 20 2011 22:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:14 pdd wrote:On December 20 2011 22:12 Yaki wrote:On December 20 2011 22:11 Hassybaby wrote:
Posting this now because I wanna go get food
CROSSFIRE!
Ryung is 2-5 on this map in the GSL, while GuMiho is 3-2
Not much to say on this map. GuMiho's only game vT on this map was against Ryung, and he lost. Ryung's 2-2 himself, beating Bomber as well as GuMiho, but losing to MVP and Bomber (those 2 have played against each other a lot!) Ryung = TvT master Gumiho isn't half bad at TvT and has impressed more than Ryung lately. Out of all the terrans who were in code S, gumiho's was the worst.
Virus? asd? Ensnare?
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On December 20 2011 22:18 Orangeremi wrote:
Anyone else find it hypocritical that the Killer v Tassadar and Morrow v Bomber matches weren't played because they didn't matter? I mean in regards to the whole Naniwa situation, this just seems wrong.
It is a bit peculiar, but I don't really want to get into it. It might derail hardcore. Would have liked to see Morrow vs Bomber though.
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On December 20 2011 22:15 red4ce wrote:
Terrans now 8-0 in the up and down matches in TvP. So many Korean terrans got shit about only being in code S because of the race they play. Well, the game is as balanced now as ever but terrans are still stomping. I wonder if the terran haters will finally acknowledge that Korea simply has more good terrans than they do protoss.
When you see that players such as Killer are in the up&down you really understand how easy it is for players such as Bomber to crush their groups.
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Theres a lot of pressure on this game
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 20 2011 22:19 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:18 Drazerk wrote:Game 13 on Crossfire SEIn the top right is Gumioh While in the bottom left is Ryung
2:30
Barracks for both players Gumioh has taken his gas
3:10Expansion on the way for Ryung
4:00Double gas from Ryung Factory + reactor from Gumioh
5:00
Expansion and starport on the way for Gumioh
Factor and reactor for Ryung
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On December 20 2011 22:20 Dariusz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:18 Zane wrote:On December 20 2011 22:16 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:13 Poopi wrote:On December 20 2011 22:12 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 20 2011 22:08 Dariusz wrote:On December 20 2011 22:07 XRaDiiX wrote:On December 20 2011 22:07 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 22:06 XRaDiiX wrote:Maybe Terrans will start landing buildings/bringing buildings with their armies etc to land in-front of the armies so Zealots can't engage their bio as well. eg: funneling the zealots between the landed buildings forcing Protoss to dis-engage Polt does this when he faces Zealot-heavy armies on his stream. Sometimes he also does auto-turret walls as well. Lol Nice that's probably why POLT is one of the top on Korean ladder Or you can just use BFH and melt zealots in seconds. GG by Bomber. BFH are actually not that good against zealots considering the nerf Cost for cost and supply of supply theyre insanely good. Considering they trade well with sentriest AND stalkers aswell, and can be used for harass. You can't mix bio and hellions vP, and mech vP is insanely bad. Problem solved... Lol why? Is there some magic rule that prevents you from building more than one factory when you're maxed, or using the first factory to gradually add more hellions? Every time i face BFH mixed with bio on ladder i'm mindblown why other terrans are not using it, because it works so well. I lost to Carriers once too, they're insanely good. I wonder why they don't get used more. Don't compare cheap tier 1.5 units that has alot of utility with Tier 3 unit that takes forever to build, tech to, cost fortune and gets hard countered by marines.
I'm sure going mixing BFHs in lower leagues is great. When ever I try to mix helions with my bio, force field rapes me in ways that you could not even imagine. It's gross.
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Ryung going fast expand
Gumiho Tank expo?
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 20 2011 22:19 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:18 Drazerk wrote:Game 13 on Crossfire SEIn the top right is Gumioh While in the bottom left is Ryung
2:30
Barracks for both players Gumioh has taken his gas
3:10Expansion on the way for Ryung
4:00Double gas from Ryung Factory + reactor from Gumioh
5:00Expansion and starport on the way for Gumioh Factor and reactor for Ryung
6:00
Hellions moving around the middle of the map
Starport finishes for Ryung
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On December 20 2011 22:20 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 20 2011 22:14 pdd wrote:On December 20 2011 22:12 Yaki wrote:On December 20 2011 22:11 Hassybaby wrote:
Posting this now because I wanna go get food
CROSSFIRE!
Ryung is 2-5 on this map in the GSL, while GuMiho is 3-2
Not much to say on this map. GuMiho's only game vT on this map was against Ryung, and he lost. Ryung's 2-2 himself, beating Bomber as well as GuMiho, but losing to MVP and Bomber (those 2 have played against each other a lot!) Ryung = TvT master Gumiho isn't half bad at TvT and has impressed more than Ryung lately. Out of all the terrans who were in code S, gumiho's was the worst. Virus? asd? Ensnare?
asd isn't that bad. But Gumiho was definitely one of the better ones and his stock was rising. Don't get why the previous poster thought he was the worst.
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On December 20 2011 22:20 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 22:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 20 2011 22:14 pdd wrote:On December 20 2011 22:12 Yaki wrote:On December 20 2011 22:11 Hassybaby wrote:
Posting this now because I wanna go get food
CROSSFIRE!
Ryung is 2-5 on this map in the GSL, while GuMiho is 3-2
Not much to say on this map. GuMiho's only game vT on this map was against Ryung, and he lost. Ryung's 2-2 himself, beating Bomber as well as GuMiho, but losing to MVP and Bomber (those 2 have played against each other a lot!) Ryung = TvT master Gumiho isn't half bad at TvT and has impressed more than Ryung lately. Out of all the terrans who were in code S, gumiho's was the worst. Virus? asd? Ensnare?
They have decent TvT. Gumiho has really inconsistent TvT and his lows are so much worse.
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On December 20 2011 22:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Inca might be the only Protoss to possibly advance from Up-and-Downs. As the only P in his group.
Think about that.
I'm pretty sure InCa would prefer to play his 83.33% (20-4) PvP matchup than his 36.67% (11-19) PvZ matchup.
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