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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2261
Was Morrow's TvP his worst matchup? (and zerg supposedly to help him vs P?)
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2262
On December 20 2011 20:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:55 Drazerk wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:53 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:50 Doctorbeat wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:48 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:47 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:45 Yang Wenli wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:42 Yang Wenli wrote:
[quote]

Immortals run pfffffff....... always one stupid newbie died during frogger...


99% sure frogger didn't effect the immortal run


It was either that or most people died on Thaddius where they always switched on positive or negative. I remember the raid Leader saying switch and 6 people got promptly zapped to death.


The lag in that room was horrific at the start of wrath


Lag on Heigan fucked you over too.


ROFL Heigan! Our first kill ended up with the MT, OT, me and 6 healers....

I had to get Innervate 5 times....


First time our raid did Heigan we got that achiev for no deaths.

Think it was called Safety Dance or something.

Our priests failed on Razuvious though, haha. Tanks getting oneshot by him was fun.


My favourite is still Grobbulus, when people get surrounded by slime puddles. They're so slow to expand, how did they do it?!?


From personal experience your laughing at the idiots in officer chat and get surrounded yourself

vashj was the worst when people didnt have the macro to throw the core. oh wait no... archimonde... fucking mages never wanted to use tears cause they can just blink before the hit the ground. oh wait you messed up and died. soul charge. 5 more dead. pew pew pew aoe wipe


lol archimonde... how many idiots managed to get the debuff AND the flames debuff?

Such a good fight without idiots lol
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2263
On December 20 2011 20:56 Benjef wrote:
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On December 20 2011 20:55 NuclearJudas wrote:
Well that finish was pretty disappointing. You can still do it, MorroW! You just have to beat two great Terrans. ; _ ;

Well he beat ryung and I would say Ryung > Gumiho. But Bomber is gonna be a hard one...

Least Morrow has sick ZvT


Actually Gumiho TvZ can be quite good.
If I remeber he beat Nesta in the WCG qualifier with a composition that looked like rly OP (ghost thor tanks raven or sth like that)
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:59:56
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2264
On December 20 2011 20:56 Bulkers wrote:
Another foreign embarrassment in Korea... Next in January Greg i wonder who will gom choose to invite in february maybe naniwa, but hes already like 0-12 in korea

Morrow's done ok so far. No embarrassment at all.
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2265
On December 20 2011 20:56 VoirDire wrote:
I wish morrow still used his trademark baneling drop zvp style.


His ZvP is his weakest match up.
I think most would agree Ryung is a higher caliber player than either toss in the group (at least GOM votes support this accretion) and Morrow won that match.
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2266
On December 20 2011 20:58 mordk wrote:
Wow I just saw the GOMTV poll for this group. Why would people vote Ryung instead of Gumiho? The latter has been really impressive as of late.


I agree. Ryung has been slumping since october.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2267
On December 20 2011 20:55 RPR_Tempest wrote:
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On December 20 2011 20:54 TheDwf wrote:
So, where's the guy who said he would be “shocked” if MorroW didn't win, because he should “outclass” Killer?

Me. MorroW had that game, but he seriously fucked up.

MorroW is overall better at the match-up, that mistake was uncharacteristic and sloppy.

He didn't have that game at any point imo

First he got tricked by the 7gate blink third and cut drones in order to defend, didn't look too good from that point on, uncontested 3 bases for Toss and he didn't have the economy he needed to put up any pressure/trade armies to keep Toss army small

Then he had bad engagements and didn't build spines to somehow get to broods, and mass broods with infestor is the only way to beat a maxed Toss army
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2268
Marauder Rush from Bomber
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2269
On December 20 2011 20:58 Drazerk wrote:
Game Nine on Tal'Darim Altar

In the top left is Gumioh

While in the bottom right is Bomber


3:00


Gas and barracks for both players but bomber's is in the middle of the map
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
December 20 2011 11:59 GMT
#2270
On December 20 2011 20:58 trinxified wrote:
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On December 20 2011 20:55 roymarthyup wrote:
perfect PvZ strategy

Step 1) you want 200food of stalkers

Step 2) Scratch that remove 6 stalkers, replace with 2 collossi

zerg tries to make corrupters to kill collossi, needs like 13 corrupters (1300 gas) to kill the collossi in any reasonable amount of time with all that stalker cover

after zerg makes 13 corrupters, he loses the battle because 188 food of stalkers beat the roaches since the zerg had to spend so much food on corrupters and one 3/3 stalker kills one 3/3 roach (its nuetral) however some collossi splash puts it into tosses favor and after toss wins the battle blink in and kill zerg as he is remaxing

and if the zerg makes any lings they all evaporate in the time it takes the corrupters to kill the collossi

hopefully your big attack comes when the zerg has less than 6 broodlords. any higher than 6 and you can die. take a quick third as toss and you can hit with the 200army before zerg has broodlords


Funny how you mention that roaches > stalkers. Sad, but true. 75/25 unit beating a 125/50 unit


a 3/3 stalker kills a 3/3 roach with like 5 health remaining. stalkers cost more but if you can turtle until 200/200 you massively win the fight against roaches with stalkers (and a couple collossi to kill lings) and you can hit the zerg in the 27 seconds it takes roaches to build and kill all the new roaches as they are running to the battle from multiple hatcheries
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2271
On December 20 2011 20:57 Mycl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:55 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:54 TheDwf wrote:
So, where's the guy who said he would be “shocked” if MorroW didn't win, because he should “outclass” Killer?

Me. MorroW had that game, but he seriously fucked up.

MorroW is overall better at the match-up, that mistake was uncharacteristic and sloppy.


What was this mistake you are talking about? By the looks of it Killer was in complete control of the match from start to finish

There seems to be a general trend of saying that a Zerg plays really well in ZvP if he manages to hit 80 Drones without dying, regardless of what happens afterwards, and ignoring the difficulty of that accomplishment in that particular game.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2272
On December 20 2011 20:58 Eee wrote:
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On December 20 2011 20:57 red4ce wrote:
Strange. I thought Morrow had good ZvP? Tassadar and Killer are not opponents he should have lost to.

Yes he does, but only when plays Ling/Bling Rain/Roach-style. And he dosent want to play that style any longer cause he want to learn new styles.


That seems like a rather bad excuse, why should you not use your best builds for a code S ! spot on the line, he can play another style on ladder if he wants but that would make him sound very unprofesional.
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2273
Both Twitch.tv and Gomplayer lags for me, I'm so sad =/
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2274
On December 20 2011 20:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:58 Drazerk wrote:
Game Nine on Tal'Darim Altar

In the top left is Gumioh

While in the bottom right is Bomber


3:00


Gas and barracks for both players but bomber's is in the middle of the map


3:40


Concussive shells for Bomber

Factory for Gumioh
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2275
On December 20 2011 20:57 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:56 Benjef wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:55 NuclearJudas wrote:
Well that finish was pretty disappointing. You can still do it, MorroW! You just have to beat two great Terrans. ; _ ;

Well he beat ryung and I would say Ryung > Gumiho. But Bomber is gonna be a hard one...

Least Morrow has sick ZvT


I don't see Morrow beating Bomber


But if Bomber beats Gumiho, then Morrow might make it through from head-to-head if Ryung beats Gumiho.
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Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2276
On December 20 2011 20:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:55 Drazerk wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:53 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:50 Doctorbeat wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:48 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:47 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:45 Yang Wenli wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

99% sure frogger didn't effect the immortal run


It was either that or most people died on Thaddius where they always switched on positive or negative. I remember the raid Leader saying switch and 6 people got promptly zapped to death.


The lag in that room was horrific at the start of wrath


Lag on Heigan fucked you over too.


ROFL Heigan! Our first kill ended up with the MT, OT, me and 6 healers....

I had to get Innervate 5 times....


First time our raid did Heigan we got that achiev for no deaths.

Think it was called Safety Dance or something.

Our priests failed on Razuvious though, haha. Tanks getting oneshot by him was fun.


My favourite is still Grobbulus, when people get surrounded by slime puddles. They're so slow to expand, how did they do it?!?


From personal experience your laughing at the idiots in officer chat and get surrounded yourself

vashj was the worst when people didnt have the macro to throw the core. oh wait no... archimonde... fucking mages never wanted to use tears cause they can just blink before the hit the ground. oh wait you messed up and died. soul charge. 5 more dead. pew pew pew aoe wipe


lol archimonde... how many idiots managed to get the debuff AND the flames debuff?

Such a good fight without idiots lol



Everytime we did archimonde Melee would never get the flame debuff but the GD hunters who had the hard rotation of hit steady shot macro cuoldn't realise that FIRE IS BAD
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2277
Morrow could have won that game. Killer wasn't dominating. If morrow had managed one good engagement with a flank and some chain fungals, he would would have rolled Killer over.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2278
On December 20 2011 20:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:55 Drazerk wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:53 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:50 Doctorbeat wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:48 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:47 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:45 Yang Wenli wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:42 Yang Wenli wrote:
[quote]

Immortals run pfffffff....... always one stupid newbie died during frogger...


99% sure frogger didn't effect the immortal run


It was either that or most people died on Thaddius where they always switched on positive or negative. I remember the raid Leader saying switch and 6 people got promptly zapped to death.


The lag in that room was horrific at the start of wrath


Lag on Heigan fucked you over too.


ROFL Heigan! Our first kill ended up with the MT, OT, me and 6 healers....

I had to get Innervate 5 times....


First time our raid did Heigan we got that achiev for no deaths.

Think it was called Safety Dance or something.

Our priests failed on Razuvious though, haha. Tanks getting oneshot by him was fun.


My favourite is still Grobbulus, when people get surrounded by slime puddles. They're so slow to expand, how did they do it?!?


From personal experience your laughing at the idiots in officer chat and get surrounded yourself

vashj was the worst when people didnt have the macro to throw the core. oh wait no... archimonde... fucking mages never wanted to use tears cause they can just blink before the hit the ground. oh wait you messed up and died. soul charge. 5 more dead. pew pew pew aoe wipe


People not using ghosts properly on Teron Gorefiend was always fun
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Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2279
On December 20 2011 20:58 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:56 Bulkers wrote:
Another foreign embarrassment in Korea... Next in January Greg i wonder who will gom choose to invite in february maybe naniwa, but hes already like 0-12 in korea


greg is the only foreigner beside jinro to make it to the ro8..albeit jinro has gone the way of ol'yellar


wow they were good.... year ago
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#2280
On December 20 2011 21:00 OminouS wrote:
Both Twitch.tv and Gomplayer lags for me, I'm so sad =/


Twitch Stream just started Lagging
Never GG MKP | IdrA
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