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Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable.
And as always:
- No player bashing.
- No caster bashing.
- No balance whining.
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On December 12 2011 19:19 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:18 Tofugrinder wrote:
oh man, can people just stop saying "mech isn't viable vs zerg"? It has been proven that it is (by mvp himself), you just have to be careful imo, it can be almost the same vs protoss. a shame no real top terran constantly tries, i feel like it can be extremly good if played by an extremly good and smart person
what? MVP mechs allot vs Zerg. For some reason he had very few siege tanks in that match and they weren't siege'd up either. He has mech'd vs players of DRGs caliber before.
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On December 12 2011 19:21 teamamerica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:17 foxmeep wrote:On December 12 2011 19:14 Lavi wrote:
if he built more tanks then drg would just build more muta and overwhelm the lower thor count Not true, once you have weapons upgrade 3-4 Thor will rape pretty much any amount of mutas, even with magic boxing. Sorry to nitpick but this is just SO wrong. 4+2 thors can easily be magic boxed by 20 mutas and die really quickly, even with scvs repairing, because the scvs start to die from the splash. MVP lost too many tanks for free though, and that really cost him the game. Although he was already pretty behind from his opening imo.
This is why Terran are getting the warhound in HoTS ^^
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i feel like khaldor has trouble speaking english well. kind of like the way 50cent tries to speak english. its this mumbled, muffled loud camel dying sound. much prefer tastosis
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Epic 1 hour PvP coming up :D
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On December 12 2011 18:29 Hemula wrote:
The evil terran king must be defeated. I like rooting up against favorites.
Greatest post ever!
Down with the monarch Terran!
Down with Arturus-mvp
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On December 12 2011 19:15 Quotidian wrote:
Has Khaldor ever listened to himself when he goes into "excited mode"? I have a feeling he hasn't, because if he did he would chill the fuck out a bit more. His "hype" is seriously ruining the viewing experience
I like the mode but dislike the monotone tone of it. It gets a robotic feel to me.
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no idea who to root for @.@
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On December 12 2011 19:17 SkullZ9 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:15 Quotidian wrote:
Has Khaldor ever listened to himself when he goes into "excited mode"? I have a feeling he hasn't, because if he did he would chill the fuck out a bit more. His "hype" is seriously ruining the viewing experience I don't agree, it's like korean casters, he is enthousiast and that's great, I don't know why people are hating it..
Enthusiasm is great, except he doesn't have the voice for it. It's atonal and jarring.. he seriously sounds like a clown and his commentary isn't making up for it. If he was a great commentator, it wouldn't matter. But he's just loud and bad.
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Where dat snitch at?37099 Posts
OH DAMN!! I LOVE MC AND HERO. WHO DO I ROOT FOR?!?!
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On December 12 2011 19:22 1ManArmy wrote:
Epic 1 hour PvP coming up :D
contradictions 
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AHAHAHAH WHO SAYS MVP HAVE 4-0????? NOOB hi you NOOBB AHAHAHAHHA! STEPHANO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
User was warned for this post
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Come on hero, defend the inevitable all-in.
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On December 12 2011 19:21 teamamerica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:17 foxmeep wrote:On December 12 2011 19:14 Lavi wrote:
if he built more tanks then drg would just build more muta and overwhelm the lower thor count Not true, once you have weapons upgrade 3-4 Thor will rape pretty much any amount of mutas, even with magic boxing. Sorry to nitpick but this is just SO wrong. 4+2 thors can easily be magic boxed by 20 mutas and die really quickly, even with scvs repairing, because the scvs start to die from the splash. MVP lost too many tanks for free though, and that really cost him the game. Although he was already pretty behind from his opening imo.
The mutas will be down to like 20 hp from the volleys flying in.
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On December 12 2011 19:21 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:20 Severian wrote:On December 12 2011 19:14 StUfF wrote:
Theme of these games seem to be make roach win games.
I thought MVP was so ahead after denying the third for so long, and the botched attack by DRG.
MVP never took advantage, got his own third denied and sat in base whilst DRG took a 4th? I think it was actually a pretty good attack, considering what happened in the next couple of minutes. DRG had just maxed out, and he was able to make some use of his mostly useless Mutas. He engaged waaaaaaaaay over the other side of the map from his own base, so that by the time MVP was knocking on his door he'd already remaxed. DRG's attack was actually pretty poor and that handed MVP an advantage. If DRG had just teched (instead of the botched attack) he would've won easily.
He would've teched and then not been able to build any high-tech units because he was maxed.
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inc 4gate from the suicide toss
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On December 12 2011 19:21 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:20 Mithridates wrote:On December 12 2011 19:17 Elem wrote:On December 12 2011 19:16 Mithridates wrote:On December 12 2011 19:14 Elem wrote:On December 12 2011 19:13 iky43210 wrote:
there's a lesson here.
don't play mech Don't play mech like the protoss deathball* Both those compistions are weak if split up Mech is SICK if you actually put pressure on the Z. If you just sit outside his creep and let him get a 5 base eco you deserve to lose. :p Mvp did 0 harass when DRG got to 3 bases and onwards. How are you supposed to pressure on the largest map in the game with the slowest army . Hellions have to buffer for the thors and tanks otherwise the expensive gas units will get rolled. Mech is not an all map strategy and MvP should know that If MVP's helion harass did damage that would be DRG's fault, not MVP's great play. Suiciding helions for drones is very bad in the mid game. Your economy won't be good enough to keep trading like that and get away with it.
I agree if Zerg plays correctly mech should never win in that situation
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On December 12 2011 19:21 Giriath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:20 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 12 2011 19:19 Rorix wrote:On December 12 2011 19:17 Elem wrote:On December 12 2011 19:16 Mithridates wrote:On December 12 2011 19:14 Elem wrote:On December 12 2011 19:13 iky43210 wrote:
there's a lesson here.
don't play mech Don't play mech like the protoss deathball* Both those compistions are weak if split up Mech is SICK if you actually put pressure on the Z. If you just sit outside his creep and let him get a 5 base eco you deserve to lose. :p Mvp did 0 harass when DRG got to 3 bases and onwards. DRG prevented that Hellion harass with 2 spines and 2 queens. After that, MVP just...ran his hellions across the map killing stray zerglings. which is good, but not great imho. Wtf? So he has to suicide his helions into a choke instead? MVP actually got himself into a not awful position by killing so many zerglings on the field. It's the number 1 best move he could've done. No, the best move he could have done is deny the third...which he did, later.
Denying the 3rd with mech on TDA is the stupidest thing you could do. It's incredibly risky and they'll just make roaches and clear out your thors or just magic box your thors. By the time they're getting their 3rd up you won't have much of an army on the field. MVP timed an attack on the hatch very well when DRG was attacking so that's the only reason why it went down, but he still lost a lot of helions.
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On December 12 2011 19:22 bgx wrote:contradictions
did you see the map?  It's actually possible
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