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Enjoy the games guys.
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6321
darn it,., the best matches are the last ones maybe i'll make it,., just took took a nap,, maybe it'll be enough,,
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6322
On December 03 2011 11:39 Zeromadcowz wrote:
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On December 03 2011 11:38 Jonoman92 wrote:
Man, really incredible play by TT1. Pushing out with 130 supply vs 200 into win.

He really showed how good forcefields are, good play.


Not really, i guess its more like Sen showed that 1/0 roach only is not really a good army to crush a toss army.
Ranir
Profile Joined June 2011
413 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6323
Rotterdam and mr.bitter casting is soo good
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6324
On December 03 2011 11:39 Anachronism wrote:
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On December 03 2011 11:38 ellirc wrote:
Uuuuhm, what is Sen doing?

Yeah, horrible play from Sen what the heck? Amazing macro and greed build, defends well from harass, then decides to suicide against a protoss deathball for 400 supply in roaches hoping his 8+ sentries run out of energy before Sen ran out of roaches.... which is just silly.


What's so amazing about that macro?
I can macro like that aswell if I'm only allowed to build roaches and drones with barely any upgrades.
Fact is that you still have too win the game, which is a whole different story.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6325
yea we've known macro into mass roach doesn't work since IdrA in the GSL
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6326
This series is not delivering so far.
No relation to Monsieur J.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6327
On December 03 2011 11:40 Guilt wrote:
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On December 03 2011 11:33 TheSwamp wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:32 Guilt wrote:
Did anyone else notice that they have the wrong team for tt1? he left fnatic and joined mtw, didn't he? (Sorry if this was mentioned earlier...looked back 5 pages and saw nothing)


That's the ingame overlay


Oh, that makes sense. I can't imagine mTw is happy with him using his old ID in big tournaments like this...


Yeah, that's kind of strange. I'm sure he could afford a new account for tourneys.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6328
On December 03 2011 11:41 TheSwamp wrote:
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On December 03 2011 11:39 Twinfun wrote:
Wow! Great play by TT1! My opinion of him now is definitely different, now.


Seriously? TT1 didn't win that game. Sen lost it.



Didn't stop TT1 from having very solid forcefields and micro
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
December 03 2011 02:42 GMT
#6329
On December 03 2011 11:40 Twinfun wrote:
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On December 03 2011 11:39 Tachion wrote:
When are zerg's gonna stop maxing on roaches? I see it in so many pro games, and it ALWAYS sucks.


Losira got a bunch of easy wins in the GSL in his last few ZvP's that way.

except they weren't easy at all. Losira had those games won by a mile, then maxes on roaches and almost loses. It's terrible.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
December 03 2011 02:42 GMT
#6330
On December 03 2011 11:41 TheSwamp wrote:
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On December 03 2011 11:39 Twinfun wrote:
Wow! Great play by TT1! My opinion of him now is definitely different, now.


Seriously? TT1 didn't win that game. Sen lost it.


it was TT1 that scouted the early third.. and TT1 made his adjusments by making immortals and collosus. give some credit to TT1. of course Sen didn't play his best, but TT1 upped his game.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 02:43:50
December 03 2011 02:42 GMT
#6331
People don't understand ZvP apparently. Mass roaches can win you games. But they have an expiration date. What happened then? Sen wanted to kill TT1 with a roach timing but TT1 pushed out in the map and caught some of his roaches without support which slowed his timing, knowing he lost the timing and had no tech he had to go corruptor roach, but TT1 had too good engagements for it to work. Sen didn't kill the third when it was about to be done as well. Roaches can work, but TT1 made it not happen.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 03 2011 02:42 GMT
#6332
On December 03 2011 11:42 chatuka wrote:
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On December 03 2011 11:41 TheSwamp wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:39 Twinfun wrote:
Wow! Great play by TT1! My opinion of him now is definitely different, now.


Seriously? TT1 didn't win that game. Sen lost it.


it was TT1 that scouted the early third.. and TT1 made his adjusments by making immortals and collosus. give some credit to TT1. of course Sen didn't play his best, but TT1 upped his game.


Getting an early third zvp vs a forge fe is a standard response. Its not risky in any way doing that style vs forge FE.
When I think of something else, something will go here
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
December 03 2011 02:42 GMT
#6333
On December 03 2011 11:38 mierin wrote:
Sen should have had a Papa Roach song for his intro

ff'd my army into pieces
this is my last larva spawn
starvation
no mining
gotta gg
cuz ... uhh... i ran outta mining

something like that
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
December 03 2011 02:43 GMT
#6334
On December 03 2011 11:41 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:40 Guilt wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:33 TheSwamp wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:32 Guilt wrote:
Did anyone else notice that they have the wrong team for tt1? he left fnatic and joined mtw, didn't he? (Sorry if this was mentioned earlier...looked back 5 pages and saw nothing)


That's the ingame overlay


Oh, that makes sense. I can't imagine mTw is happy with him using his old ID in big tournaments like this...


Yeah, that's kind of strange. I'm sure he could afford a new account for tourneys.

mTw spent all their money to buy the rights to play the Pokémon song
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
December 03 2011 02:43 GMT
#6335
On December 03 2011 11:42 Alpino wrote:
People don't understand ZvP apparently. Mass roaches can win you games. But they have an expiration date. What happened then? Sen wanted to kill TT1 with a roach timing but TT1 pushed out in the map and caught some of his roaches without support which slowed his timing, knowing he lost the timing and had no tech he had to go corruptor roach, but TT1 had too good engagements for it to work. Sen didn't kill the third when it was about to be done as well. Roaches can work, but TT1 made it not happen.


well said
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 02:43:46
December 03 2011 02:43 GMT
#6336
protoss usually can nexus first always, but its gonna be tight for TT1

edit: nvm lol
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Krosta
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway437 Posts
December 03 2011 02:43 GMT
#6337
Gogogo Sen
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
December 03 2011 02:43 GMT
#6338
On December 03 2011 11:41 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:41 TheSwamp wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:39 Twinfun wrote:
Wow! Great play by TT1! My opinion of him now is definitely different, now.


Seriously? TT1 didn't win that game. Sen lost it.



Didn't stop TT1 from having very solid forcefields and micro

This. I have to admit Sen threw it away, but lesser control than TT1 showed would have gotten destroyed by that endless wave of roaches. There were several points in that game where TT1 was a couple of forcefields away from losing.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
December 03 2011 02:43 GMT
#6339
On December 03 2011 11:41 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:41 TheSwamp wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:39 Twinfun wrote:
Wow! Great play by TT1! My opinion of him now is definitely different, now.


Seriously? TT1 didn't win that game. Sen lost it.



Didn't stop TT1 from having very solid forcefields and micro

His army movement was so atrocious, which would probably constitute micro. He looked suicidal, I'm so amazed sen didn't punish him. His forcefields on the other hand were spot on.
Anachronism
Profile Joined December 2011
109 Posts
December 03 2011 02:44 GMT
#6340
On December 03 2011 11:41 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:39 Anachronism wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:38 ellirc wrote:
Uuuuhm, what is Sen doing?

Yeah, horrible play from Sen what the heck? Amazing macro and greed build, defends well from harass, then decides to suicide against a protoss deathball for 400 supply in roaches hoping his 8+ sentries run out of energy before Sen ran out of roaches.... which is just silly.


What's so amazing about that macro?
I can macro like that aswell if I'm only allowed to build roaches and drones with barely any upgrades.
Fact is that you still have too win the game, which is a whole different story.

The macro itself isn't great if you do nothing with it which was my point, think of it as volleyball where Sen popped the ball up high so that he himself could slam dunk it, instead he threw 400 supply of roaches into the sea.
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