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arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
December 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#6301
Pure roach doesn't work. I thought we learned that six months ago.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#6302
On December 03 2011 11:39 AutomatonOmega wrote:
Wow, gotta respect TT1 for that one. Nothing cheesy there.

Just some deathball faggotry but forgive the terminology, it's what he had to do to pull out a win.


Well you don't counter it with only roaches =/
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
December 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#6303
Sen what are you doing!?

He had a really good lead and then he just goes Pure roach, all the time?!

Why No Infestors or Mutas?! Or Hive tech.

Thought we had agreed that mass roach without anything else doesn't work very good against a deathball =/.

Game hurt my eyes :S
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#6304
How is it possible to macro like that? Seriously it feels like sen doesnt even have to do anything because his macro is so sick, just kinda threw this game but if he doesnt throw it, how does one deal with that?
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#6305
Wow, sen fucked up really hard.

He lost so many roaches for nothing
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 02:40:27
December 03 2011 02:39 GMT
#6306
Awful game by Sen. Played like I used to do in silver. A-move roaches into a deathball and let em all die while doing no damage. Insane macro though but not enough.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6307
That was some FANTASTIC control my TT1. Jesus. That's the difference between good protoss, badprotoss, and new-wave protoss. Good protoss like TT1 sure they get their deathball, but they do NOT just A-move them. Bad protoss just deathball. New-Wave is like Hero and (somewhat contradictory I guess) White-Ra.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6308
On December 03 2011 11:38 roymarthyup wrote:
sen actually would have won easily if he used tunelling claws with 200food roaches vs 150 immortal/gateway

Don't think so TT1 sentry count was big enough to stop burrow move micro.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6309
For some reason the NASL produces the weirdest games ...
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6310
i love rotterdam. )))
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http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6311
rotterdam is so passionate with his casting, I wish day9 never lost his passion for sc2.. I remember early sc2 day9 casts were the best.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6312
looks like TT1 is learning from Hero..

great unit composition. good forcefields.. And the turning point of the game was when Sen could not snipe the collosus.
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6313
Barreling in with roaches and relying on pure macro to have you win doesn't work. He needed infestor and corruptors.
Fav Terran: forGG, aLive, Jinro ||| Fav Zerg: Moon, TLO, DRG ||| Fav Protoss: Genius, Grubby, ToD
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6314
On December 03 2011 11:39 Zorgaz wrote:
Sen what are you doing!?

He had a really good lead and then he just goes Pure roach, all the time?!

Why No Infestors or Mutas?! Or Hive tech.

Thought we had agreed that mass roach without anything else doesn't work very good against a deathball =/.

Game hurt my eyes :S


Yeah I am not sure why he went pure roach. Sick macro and what not but he literally went pure roach all game that never works vs a decent protoss xD
When I think of something else, something will go here
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6315
Nice methodological game from TT1, he really kept his cool with those roaches coming from all sides.

Sen... Why pure roach?
Twinfun
Profile Joined September 2010
United States156 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6316
On December 03 2011 11:39 Tachion wrote:
When are zerg's gonna stop maxing on roaches? I see it in so many pro games, and it ALWAYS sucks.


Losira got a bunch of easy wins in the GSL in his last few ZvP's that way.
HerO | Byun
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6317
On December 03 2011 11:39 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:38 mierin wrote:
Sen should have had a Papa Roach song for his intro

wp sir

wp indeed.
Guilt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States48 Posts
December 03 2011 02:40 GMT
#6318
On December 03 2011 11:33 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:32 Guilt wrote:
Did anyone else notice that they have the wrong team for tt1? he left fnatic and joined mtw, didn't he? (Sorry if this was mentioned earlier...looked back 5 pages and saw nothing)


That's the ingame overlay


Oh, that makes sense. I can't imagine mTw is happy with him using his old ID in big tournaments like this...
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6319
On December 03 2011 11:39 Twinfun wrote:
Wow! Great play by TT1! My opinion of him now is definitely different, now.


Seriously? TT1 didn't win that game. Sen lost it.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
December 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#6320
On December 03 2011 11:40 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:38 roymarthyup wrote:
sen actually would have won easily if he used tunelling claws with 200food roaches vs 150 immortal/gateway

Don't think so TT1 sentry count was big enough to stop burrow move micro.

no way.. he was setting himself up for flanks over and over again all game
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