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  • In general do your best to stay on topic and discuss what we're all here for: the games.
Enjoy the games guys.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
December 02 2011 18:20 GMT
#221
On December 03 2011 03:11 Serinox wrote:
@mousesports - mousesports
@EvilGeniuses Do your research, brother.


@EvilGeniuses - Team EG
The NASL Grand Finals kicks off today with EG featuring the most players in attendance of any team. Send us some hype, folks!


=)


Ahaha Nice with abit of smacktalk, should be a good weekend for esports
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Surriel
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom198 Posts
December 02 2011 18:20 GMT
#222
Sound is currently a problem again, I hope it got fixed before SC2 matches.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
December 02 2011 18:20 GMT
#223
On December 03 2011 03:19 Fionn wrote:
"It's packed."

Okay, NASL. Okay.


they we're trolling obviously ;D
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 18:23:16
December 02 2011 18:20 GMT
#224
sound completely out of sync?

hmm. seems not afterall
weird
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
December 02 2011 18:21 GMT
#225
On December 03 2011 03:20 sopas wrote:
sound completely out of sync?


yes it is .(
Lolli92
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany109 Posts
December 02 2011 18:22 GMT
#226
On December 03 2011 03:20 sopas wrote:
sound completely out of sync?


It's not out of sync it's in game volume at 100% and caster volume at like 30% xD This is so funny.
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
December 02 2011 18:22 GMT
#227
So, what exactly is the difference between HoN, LoL, and DotA2?
Onox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1072 Posts
December 02 2011 18:22 GMT
#228
Hon looks so different from last time I played it.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
December 02 2011 18:22 GMT
#229
On December 03 2011 03:19 Fionn wrote:
"It's packed."

Okay, NASL. Okay.

I don't care much about HoN, but they were obviously trolling. All casters make fun of small audiences early on in events regardless of what game they are shoutcasting.... That includes SC2.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
December 02 2011 18:22 GMT
#230
Sound is also incredibly low, I have my volume max'd out and it's still very quiet.
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
December 02 2011 18:23 GMT
#231
ok stupid question, but what can anyone help explain the stat down at the bottom of the screens for HoN?
Onox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1072 Posts
December 02 2011 18:24 GMT
#232
On December 03 2011 03:23 Hunterai wrote:
ok stupid question, but what can anyone help explain the stat down at the bottom of the screens for HoN?

Says gold per minute?
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
December 02 2011 18:25 GMT
#233
On December 03 2011 03:22 ichnaschekot wrote:
So, what exactly is the difference between HoN, LoL, and DotA2?


LoL looks like shit! Dunno anything else...
icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
December 02 2011 18:26 GMT
#234
Can anybody with UPC watch 1080p+ ?
Appears to be dropping every few seconds from around 2,8 Megabit / second to below 1 Megabit / second which results in stuttering every few seconds.
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Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 18:31:50
December 02 2011 18:28 GMT
#235
On December 03 2011 03:22 ichnaschekot wrote:
So, what exactly is the difference between HoN, LoL, and DotA2?


Dota2/HoN:
You can attack your own creeps when they are at 50% to deny experience and gold.
You lose Gold when u die.
You got much less mana to use, so it is not common to farm with your spells.
High GPM is much more rewarding.
Laning phase is more punishing (due to goldloss and no decreasing goldrewards for kills)
There are teleportscrolls, so you can port to every building of your faction (makes ganking/counterganks easier, or even possible)
Also all heroes have a main attribute (Strength/Agi/Int)
Usually Str = high HP and melee
Agi = Carries
Int = Caster/Supporter, low HP
This is not true for all heroes, but gives you a general idea

There are MUCH more, you can not really compare LoL to Dota/Hon
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
December 02 2011 18:29 GMT
#236
On December 03 2011 03:26 icydergosu wrote:
Can anybody with UPC watch 1080p+ ?
Appears to be dropping every few seconds from around 2,8 Megabit / second to below 1 Megabit / second which results in stuttering every few seconds.

Bitrate will always vary depending on what is on screen at the moment. If all players cast some imba-ultra-magic with lots of WC3-like graphic effects the bitrate will obviously spike like hell. A static statistics page on screen will not require anywhere close to that bandwidth. Lower the quality if you don't have a connection able to handle it.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
December 02 2011 18:31 GMT
#237
I have no idea who is winning lololol
@followMVT
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
December 02 2011 18:32 GMT
#238
On December 03 2011 03:22 ichnaschekot wrote:
So, what exactly is the difference between HoN, LoL, and DotA2?


LoL is easier to get into, generally consider more casual, it has a lot of issues in terms of a competitive interface, lacking a number of built in options that the other games have, it is however the most popular in the west with a number of additional fun oriented maps. Game is fairly passive in my experience at high levels because of a number of build in escapes, hero design is sort of standardized.

HoN is very gank centric and has a ton of action, hero design is generally niche based but not as much as DotA. Just a faster paced version of DotA in a sense.

DotA is the oldest of the three, most competitively developed and has very niche based hero design, this becomes more apparent in it's competitive picks, where the bans and picks alternate unlike the other two. This means you can directly ban to counter the early picks of your opposing team creating more dynamic strategies and shutting off specific strategies instead of defaulting to blind-banning the same sets of heroes.

Just some general differences, not going to go into depth much further because then it becomes a massive debate.
Nilth
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy71 Posts
December 02 2011 18:32 GMT
#239
They aren't going to leave the "free stream" at 360p, are they? They can't be so stupid.
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
December 02 2011 18:35 GMT
#240
On December 03 2011 03:32 Nilth wrote:
They aren't going to leave the "free stream" at 360p, are they? They can't be so stupid.

Try it.
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