EPTOn November 30 2011 15:08 Gh86 wrote:
Didn't Lyn sign with Pandarea or did he change teams?
Didn't Lyn sign with Pandarea or did he change teams?
Yes, he's on PanDa. DoomsVille misspoke. He was referring to Infi, not Lyn.
[IPL Team Arena] SlayerS vs. TyLoo - Page 5
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babylon
8765 Posts
Yes, he's on PanDa. DoomsVille misspoke. He was referring to Infi, not Lyn. | ||
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
 Hope he'll do well in SC2, he was a pretty darn good human player in wc3 | ||
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
Tyloo will probably lose 5-2 at best, but they're not terrible. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On November 30 2011 15:46 Skwid1g wrote: What's with all the China bashing? Did you all forget about Starswar, where the Chinese were doing well against top (Nestea, MC, etc.) Korean players? Yeah, it was a while ago, but I doubt they somehow got bad enough to get stomped by mediocre players. Tyloo will probably lose 5-2 at best, but they're not terrible. Apparently that event was plagued by bad lag. | ||
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swordboy
Canada299 Posts
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ChApFoU
France2983 Posts
"Hey guys we've got IPL today, who wants to stomp mid-lvl foreign dudes ?" "No sorry I've got serious things to do, no time for fun games" "Please I need at least 5 players ................." "LOL LOL LOL LOL" "Nah I'm just kidding :p 1 will be fine" Must be something like that :p | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On November 30 2011 15:46 Skwid1g wrote: What's with all the China bashing? Did you all forget about Starswar, where the Chinese were doing well against top (Nestea, MC, etc.) Korean players? Yeah, it was a while ago, but I doubt they somehow got bad enough to get stomped by mediocre players. Tyloo will probably lose 5-2 at best, but they're not terrible. SlayerS went 15-1 the past 3 weeks using B teamers against Western players like Stephano, Nerchio, Elfi, etc who are far more proven than any Chinese player. StarsWar is about as accurate a guage of the strength of the Chinese scene as TSL3 was of the Western scene. It was a (mostly) online tournament and happened way too long ago to say anything about what the scene is like now. And for the record Chinese players did not do well against MC at all. Got stomped by him as a matter of fact. Stating honest observations isn't 'China bashing.' Chinese players will get respect when they perform well at major international LANs. It's the same standard applied to everyone. | ||
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PowerDes
United States520 Posts
Guard towers towers towers EVERYWHERE | ||
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SilverRiver
United States27 Posts
On November 30 2011 15:53 CosmicSpiral wrote: Apparently that event was plagued by bad lag. The NA-China games at least were played alternating servers. So, for example, Xiaot beat Idra on both the Chinese and NA server for the 2-0. I believe that the EU vs Asia games were played on NA. They took lag into account, and tried to make the choice of servers fair. Also, the replacements that were sent to the Blizzcon weren't the top players. Their results at the Chinese qualifier were similar to their results at Blizzcon. They're probably top 16 material, but Xigua would roflstomp toodming and loner any day. I agree that IEM looked really bad, but Xigua really shouldn't be judged solely from the few games that he played there. Everyone has off days. Try to learn more about the scene. The Chinese scene is fairly isolated, but they do occasionally play other Asian countries. China has wrecked in SEA tournaments, and players compete on fairly evenly with Koreans in the recent FXOpen KOTHs. They also play on Korean ladder and have high enough MMR to play lots of the well known korean pros. They'll probably lose to Slayers by a good margin, but I can see them taking a couple games. | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On November 30 2011 16:36 SilverRiver wrote: The NA-China games at least were played alternating servers. So, for example, Xiaot beat Idra on both the Chinese and NA server for the 2-0. I believe that the EU vs Asia games were played on NA. They took lag into account, and tried to make the choice of servers fair. Also, the replacements that were sent to the Blizzcon weren't the top players. Their results at the Chinese qualifier were similar to their results at Blizzcon. They're probably top 16 material, but Xigua would roflstomp toodming and loner any day. I agree that IEM looked really bad, but Xigua really shouldn't be judged solely from the few games that he played there. Everyone has off days. Try to learn more about the scene. The Chinese scene is fairly isolated, but they do occasionally play other Asian countries. China has wrecked in SEA tournaments, and players compete on fairly evenly with Koreans in the recent FXOpen KOTHs. They also play on Korean ladder and have high enough MMR to play lots of the well known korean pros. They'll probably lose to Slayers by a good margin, but I can see them taking a couple games. i've watched both xigua and uhen play in fxo/ESV and they're significantly worse than low-tier koreans | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On November 30 2011 16:36 PowerDes wrote: I see an infi all kill Guard towers towers towers EVERYWHERE Turtle like a mofo. I don't expect Infi to do really well in SC2 until HotS when the shredder comes out. >.< | ||
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Loire
Singapore1358 Posts
On November 30 2011 16:47 babylon wrote: Turtle like a mofo. I don't expect Infi to do really well in SC2 until HotS when the shredder comes out. >.< in my eyes infi could have played protoss instead and made nothing but photon cannons | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On November 30 2011 16:54 Theifzz wrote: in my eyes infi could have played protoss instead and made nothing but photon cannons He would get fast Shield Upgrades just for them, you know it. Hahha, that reminds me of this really early game of his I watched where he actually went for fast Building Armor upgrades against a Zerg, and they didn't help one bit, and he got completely rolled. I laughed. | ||
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babo213
United States266 Posts
On November 30 2011 16:36 SilverRiver wrote: The NA-China games at least were played alternating servers. So, for example, Xiaot beat Idra on both the Chinese and NA server for the 2-0. I believe that the EU vs Asia games were played on NA. They took lag into account, and tried to make the choice of servers fair. Also, the replacements that were sent to the Blizzcon weren't the top players. Their results at the Chinese qualifier were similar to their results at Blizzcon. They're probably top 16 material, but Xigua would roflstomp toodming and loner any day. I agree that IEM looked really bad, but Xigua really shouldn't be judged solely from the few games that he played there. Everyone has off days. Try to learn more about the scene. The Chinese scene is fairly isolated, but they do occasionally play other Asian countries. China has wrecked in SEA tournaments, and players compete on fairly evenly with Koreans in the recent FXOpen KOTHs. They also play on Korean ladder and have high enough MMR to play lots of the well known korean pros. They'll probably lose to Slayers by a good margin, but I can see them taking a couple games. It's not like SEA has a lot of great players though. And online events such as KOTH are way different from actual events. If Western teams struggled to take more than a game or 2 off of slayers I doubt Tyloo can take more than 1 | ||
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IndridCold
United States385 Posts
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dinosrwar
1290 Posts
On November 30 2011 16:44 rauk wrote: i've watched both xigua and uhen play in fxo/ESV and they're significantly worse than low-tier koreans Oh man, XiGua was TERRIBLE in the recent ESV Weekly; he looked completely lost. I think we've seen enough of the Chinese players to lay rest to the "mystery" behind them -- their lack of exposure isn't hiding any secret banjos, that's for sure. They're just middling at best. | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On November 30 2011 15:53 CosmicSpiral wrote: Apparently that event was plagued by bad lag. While the Chinese scene seems pretty terrible now, Fruitdealer and Nestea were both knocked out on the KR server by Chinese players for all 3 sets played. Servers weren't being changed for KR-CN games. | ||
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
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shket
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babylon
8765 Posts
On November 30 2011 17:50 dinosrwar wrote: Oh man, XiGua was TERRIBLE in the recent ESV Weekly; he looked completely lost. I think we've seen enough of the Chinese players to lay rest to the "mystery" behind them -- their lack of exposure isn't hiding any secret banjos, that's for sure. They're just middling at best. In general, you can say their Terran players are terrible, and their Zerg players are weak, but their top Protoss players aren't bad (and for a while, I'd say their Protoss players were pretty good). Too bad xiaOt retired; he was the first Protoss player I liked and showed a lot of promise. | ||
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