[IPL Team Arena] SlayerS vs. TyLoo - Page 27
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OGKruemmel
Croatia270 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
only slayers players are at fault here, they could have played better (i.e. more safe) going for a greedy build which can or almost must be countered by an all-in is as "cheesy" as going for an all-in at the first place. | ||
NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
edit opps... i did not watch Uhen play it was the protoss before him :p | ||
Geordie
United Kingdom653 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
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Amornthep
Singapore2605 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On December 02 2011 16:23 Geordie wrote: First time SlayerS ever brought out a big gun with alicia. I would of liked tyloo to win becasuse its getting boring now They lined code-s players against mouz. | ||
ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:54 BankaiPwn wrote: ... Who? I don't see slayers losing this one. Wow, talk about close call... | ||
TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On December 02 2011 16:14 Hopelessnoob wrote: WOW i am surprised. i watched golden tear the team apart and stopped when i watched golden start raveging Uhen's base... Uhen played okay in that game... so i thought golden may lose due to the unscouted 3rd but the next player will crush him. This result is quite suprising to me edit opps... i did not watch Uhen play it was the protoss before him :p Well he all-ined every game so I don't know how much you can take away from it. | ||
jianming
149 Posts
On December 02 2011 15:22 HuKPOWA wrote: lol...if it failed...leenock woulda been behind and would have a 99% chance to lose...aka all-in...no way of recovering...with someone with so many posts...u sure don't read the posts u comment on. An all in is an all in no matter what the other person does. Grats to SlayerS tho, i wanna see a Boxer all kill pls <3 <3 <3 You can't compare what Leenock did. He hard countered Naniwas build. Simple as that. It's not like he did it blindly or anything. He knew exactly what was coming and hard countered it.... it's a stretch to compare that type of all in to a blind cheesy all in. You could even argue that Naniwa was being the cheesy one, doing greedy risky builds to get a huge lead early on. | ||
chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On December 02 2011 13:16 Mohdoo wrote: Did you watch the games? Watch the games, then comment. Slayers also made a conscious decision to let the series potentially go 5-4 by letting all of their "no-name" players participate, only sending out a semi-A-team player in the 5th game. One of their "no-name" players managed to take out 4 players before getting cheesed. The 4 games that Uhen cheesed were not games that people could get a good idea of who Uhen is. He didn't show us the depth to his play. Him choosing to do so 5 games in a row makes people wonder. Its not an unfair question to ask if he is or is not a good player. Its extremely common for teams to send out their B-team players in a match they aren't worried about. It helps give lower-tier players a chance to play in high-stress situations, in hopes of it preparing them for the time when they might be on stage later on. It helps nerves and is good mental conditioning. This map score doesn't tell the story. Do you think Slayers would go 5-4 if they sent out good players? MMA could have 5-0'd this match in an hour. Of course I know SlayerS sent out B-teamers, but that's what they have been doing for months against foreign teams except for maybe mouz. Uhen defeated the "almighty" Golden and took down 4 SlayerS B-teamers in a row, and no foreign team had been able to do that before. Give credit when it's due. I hate to say something controversial to stir up some shit, but I'm pretty damn sure if a real foreigner (or a westerner) no-namer take down 4 Slayers players in a row, people on TL would spend 5 pages praising his "talents" and "creative strategies" no matter how cheesy the games were. That's how it works. When you have bias against some player, you "analyze" the game and "find" how cheesy he is. When you have bias in favor of some player, you are likely to say he "hard-countered" his opponent's fast expansion. It's really hard to get rid of bias, if possible. | ||
shket
23 Posts
On December 02 2011 23:20 chosenkerrigan wrote: Of course I know SlayerS sent out B-teamers, but that's what they have been doing for months against foreign teams except for maybe mouz. Uhen defeated the "almighty" Golden and took down 4 SlayerS B-teamers in a row, and no foreign team had been able to do that before. Give credit when it's due. I hate to say something controversial to stir up some shit, but I'm pretty damn sure if a real foreigner (or a westerner) no-namer take down 4 Slayers players in a row, people on TL would spend 5 pages praising his "talents" and "creative strategies" no matter how cheesy the games were. That's how it works. When you have bias against some player, you "analyze" the game and "find" how cheesy he is. When you have bias in favor of some player, you are likely to say he "hard-countered" his opponent's fast expansion. It's really hard to get rid of bias, if possible. +1 | ||
Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On December 02 2011 13:52 Ruscour wrote: called it! missed the games but Uhen is awesome I might be reading this wrong but from the looks of it you're saying Uhen can beat anyone on SlayerS... you're clearly mistaken or just overly exhausted so your brain is spewing out falsehoods. Uhen would get dominated by the likes of Boxer, MMA, Ganzi, Clide, Taeja, Ryung. and Puzzle as well as Alicia like he did -.- So please no more falsehoods ok if that is indeed what you're saying that is | ||
Sabre
United Kingdom1086 Posts
On December 03 2011 00:37 Dattish wrote: Soo.. Will we see Dream playing in Team Arena anytime? :D I wanna see LoveTT and F91 pull off some crazy macro shenanigans. +1, <3 LoveTT :D | ||
Mirhi
United States389 Posts
On December 02 2011 23:20 chosenkerrigan wrote: Of course I know SlayerS sent out B-teamers, but that's what they have been doing for months against foreign teams except for maybe mouz. Uhen defeated the "almighty" Golden and took down 4 SlayerS B-teamers in a row, and no foreign team had been able to do that before. Give credit when it's due. I hate to say something controversial to stir up some shit, but I'm pretty damn sure if a real foreigner (or a westerner) no-namer take down 4 Slayers players in a row, people on TL would spend 5 pages praising his "talents" and "creative strategies" no matter how cheesy the games were. That's how it works. When you have bias against some player, you "analyze" the game and "find" how cheesy he is. When you have bias in favor of some player, you are likely to say he "hard-countered" his opponent's fast expansion. It's really hard to get rid of bias, if possible. I definitely agree with this post. There is some real hypocrisy at times when certain players play cheesier than others. CatZ and TLO are praised while others are condemned for doing similar strategies. It's annoying to be sure. | ||
Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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